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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 9:12 pm
by 3toheadmelo
Fab bodied this. He needs to drop a project…
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 9:22 pm
by 3toheadmelo
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I'm going to preface this with I really don't hate Kendrick even though this will come off as that...I can appreciate his skill and his lyrical ability without necessary liking it.
My take with Kendrick is that since Section 80/GKMC his stuff just hasn't been for me... I've just always felt he tried too hard to be the voice for of the "deep perspective" rap fans and his albums became too abstract for me to really care what he has to say. I feel like he found the balance best on GKMC between listenability and providing an interesting perspective on his upbringing in Compton and how society shaped that. I'm also a sucker for a "coming of age" tale. Maybe that makes me a "bad rap fan" but hey I can't help what I like and don't like to listen too
I also don't think he's really evolved or diversified his flow enough for me. Most of his flow is that fast machine gun style and I just get tired of it after a while.
As far as the best rapper doing it convo I don't think Kendrick can lay claim to that after taking the hiatus he did. Others will disagree, I get it, but it's always pissed me off when rappers a la Jay Electronica don't drop music and then come in and start saying nobody can eff with them on the mic... Like you're not even doing the bare minimum of you know putting music out there to be considered the best
I'm not going to start claiming who is better than Kendrick because that convo always becomes dumb and stupid and people yelling at each other lol. But just felt like I needed to get the Kendrick thoughts off my chest.
Don't kill me
I feel you the same way. I haven’t liked much of his stuff since Good kid mad city too. Section 80 is what got me as a big fan of his. Wish he went back to his roots.
Side note: i wish he dropped this. Can’t believe this was 10 years ago
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Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 9:46 pm
by TerrenceClarke
That Kendrick joint was mad boring. Played that **** once and left it alone. He just like Cole. Talented but boring.
Compton Kendrick >>>>> Emo Kendrick
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 10:59 pm
by j4remi
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I'm going to preface this with I really don't hate Kendrick even though this will come off as that...I can appreciate his skill and his lyrical ability without necessary liking it.
My take with Kendrick is that since Section 80/GKMC his stuff just hasn't been for me... I've just always felt he tried too hard to be the voice for of the "deep perspective" rap fans and his albums became too abstract for me to really care what he has to say. I feel like he found the balance best on GKMC between listenability and providing an interesting perspective on his upbringing in Compton and how society shaped that. I'm also a sucker for a "coming of age" tale. Maybe that makes me a "bad rap fan" but hey I can't help what I like and don't like to listen too
I also don't think he's really evolved or diversified his flow enough for me. Most of his flow is that fast machine gun style and I just get tired of it after a while.
As far as the best rapper doing it convo I don't think Kendrick can lay claim to that after taking the hiatus he did. Others will disagree, I get it, but it's always pissed me off when rappers a la Jay Electronica don't drop music and then come in and start saying nobody can eff with them on the mic... Like you're not even doing the bare minimum of you know putting music out there to be considered the best
I'm not going to start claiming who is better than Kendrick because that convo always becomes dumb and stupid and people yelling at each other lol. But just felt like I needed to get the Kendrick thoughts off my chest.
Don't kill me
I'm not talking about personal opinions so much as the consensus among the industry (awards), sells (topped the charts with his last three albums), and among peers (recognized by other industry rappers as GOAT-tier). I suppose if you discount his work on the Black Panther soundtrack and features, you could say he doesn't have the output but a Jay Electronica comparison is a reach IMO. Same with claiming he doesn't have a diverse flow. Disliking the music is one thing, but I feel like that's not an accurate critique but no biggie.
I understand someone claiming he's not the best rapper out, but who you putting above him for the past decade of output or so? Five albums including two that are broadly seen as classics, 4 best-selling albums, and even institutional recognition like grammies and a Library of Congress selection. There's busier rappers, some with multiple projects I really like, but I ain't putting them in the convo with Kendrick when it comes to accomplishments, success, and quality of output.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 2:34 am
by WargamesX
3toheadmelo wrote:Fab bodied this. He needs to drop a project…
It might be me, but there is this trend I’ve seen with all my favorite rappers and I don’t know if it’s because we’re all getting older, or we’re in one of those phases where hip hop isn’t suppose to be “fun”, but it looks like they all just aren’t enjoying being rappers anymore. You hear it in their songs and dammit I can see it in this video. Even the video girls aren’t having a good time.
They aren’t competing or pushing the limits, to be the best
they are just like, yeah this is what you want right?
it’s not just these three either it’s a vibe.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:43 pm
by 3toheadmelo
WargamesX wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Fab bodied this. He needs to drop a project…
It might be me, but there is this trend I’ve seen with all my favorite rappers and I don’t know if it’s because we’re all getting older, or we’re in one of those phases where hip hop isn’t suppose to be “fun”, but it looks like they all just aren’t enjoying being rappers anymore. You hear it in their songs and dammit I can see it in this video. Even the video girls aren’t having a good time.
They aren’t competing or pushing the limits, to be the best
they are just like, yeah this is what you want right?
it’s not just these three either it’s a vibe.
I think it’s just you
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 7:04 pm
by WargamesX
3toheadmelo wrote:WargamesX wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Fab bodied this. He needs to drop a project…
It might be me, but there is this trend I’ve seen with all my favorite rappers and I don’t know if it’s because we’re all getting older, or we’re in one of those phases where hip hop isn’t suppose to be “fun”, but it looks like they all just aren’t enjoying being rappers anymore. You hear it in their songs and dammit I can see it in this video. Even the video girls aren’t having a good time.
They aren’t competing or pushing the limits, to be the best
they are just like, yeah this is what you want right?
it’s not just these three either it’s a vibe.
I think it’s just you
I ain’t gonna hold you, I could be projecting, but I don’t think it’s me. A lot of middle age rapper feel like they going through the motions on their last few tapes. Only rapper I heard lately that seemed inspired was Nas.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 9:44 pm
by TerrenceClarke
WargamesX wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:WargamesX wrote:It might be me, but there is this trend I’ve seen with all my favorite rappers and I don’t know if it’s because we’re all getting older, or we’re in one of those phases where hip hop isn’t suppose to be “fun”, but it looks like they all just aren’t enjoying being rappers anymore. You hear it in their songs and dammit I can see it in this video. Even the video girls aren’t having a good time.
They aren’t competing or pushing the limits, to be the best
they are just like, yeah this is what you want right?
it’s not just these three either it’s a vibe.
I think it’s just you
I ain’t gonna hold you, I could be projecting, but I don’t think it’s me. A lot of middle age rapper feel like they going through the motions on their last few tapes. Only rapper I heard lately that seemed inspired was Nas.
I wouldn’t put fab in that catergory cause he has a high skill set like Nas, so he will be ok. But dudes like Maino and Jim yes. At this point they just putting out **** just to put out and it becomes hit or miss and mostly miss.This whole lobby boyz project was dumb.
Jim was good on the harry fraud project. You can tell he was motivated on that one.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 9:56 pm
by TerrenceClarke
To much fluff being posted with Kendrick and Jim.
Let’s put some real bars in here.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:09 am
by 3toheadmelo
TerrenceClarke wrote:WargamesX wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I think it’s just you
I ain’t gonna hold you, I could be projecting, but I don’t think it’s me. A lot of middle age rapper feel like they going through the motions on their last few tapes. Only rapper I heard lately that seemed inspired was Nas.
I wouldn’t put fab in that catergory cause he has a high skill set like Nas, so he will be ok. But dudes like Maino and Jim yes. At this point they just putting out **** just to put out and it becomes hit or miss and mostly miss.This whole lobby boyz project was dumb.
Jim was good on the harry fraud project. You can tell he was motivated on that one.
Yeah Fab still got it. He’s in my top 5 personally…
I’m feening for him to drop a new project. I been waiting for this to drop for months now
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 2:51 pm
by DaGawd
Thugga and Gunna getting caught up is crazy to me. Really thought these brothers was smarter than that smh
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 2:06 pm
by EricAnderson
If it makes any sense I’ve always liked Kendricks music more then I liked him as a MC.
Don’t get me wrong he’s extremely talented I just think sometimes he gets a little too pretentious and cute with his rhyming
I’m not a huge fan of this album. There are some cool tracks but to me he tried way too hard to be different on this one I don’t need hiphop music to try to reinvent the wheel just put out dope music.
This album is for the same pretentious people who labeled Donda 2 a classic so they can tell you how much they know music more then you do on a deeper level.
Nas dropped 2 great albums whithin 4 months but didn’t get nearly the hype because he doesnt play the industry politics game with the Peter Rosenberg’s and the like who will call your album classic before it’s even released if you kiss their ass
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 2:39 pm
by DowNY
We cry together
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 3:32 pm
by TerrenceClarke
Album is super weak. It’s barley a hip hop album and is more experimental than anything. This is like the New version of Lauryn Hill Album.
Its also hardly any drums on this album. Smh lol.
Cry together my favorite
And the mother I sober song is the only songs I could listen.
There will be people acting like this the greatest thing made in years…..
Kendrick was out pacing Nas in making Albums I. The 2010s, now Nas is out pacing Kendrick. Embrassing from and MC perspective if you ask me.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 5:48 pm
by 3toheadmelo
TerrenceClarke wrote:Album is super weak. It’s barley a hip hop album and is more experimental than anything. This is like the New version of Lauryn Hill Album.
Its also hardly any drums on this album. Smh lol.
Cry together my favorite
And the mother I sober song is the only songs I could listen.
There will be people acting like this the greatest thing made in years…..
Kendrick was out pacing Nas in making Albums I. The 2010s, now Nas is out pacing Kendrick. Embrassing from and MC perspective if you ask me.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:09 pm
by WargamesX
TerrenceClarke wrote:Album is super weak. It’s barley a hip hop album and is more experimental than anything. This is like the New version of Lauryn Hill Album.
Its also hardly any drums on this album. Smh lol.
Cry together my favorite
And the mother I sober song is the only songs I could listen.
There will be people acting like this the greatest thing made in years…..
Kendrick was out pacing Nas in making Albums I. The 2010s, now Nas is out pacing Kendrick. Embrassing from and MC perspective if you ask me.
This was the exact thing I am talking about, but Kendrick doing this at his age is embarrassing. No reason to be rapping semi retired yet. Ghost sounded like he had some fire in the tank on his verse and the put him on when the purple hearts beat was basically silent….
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:30 pm
by NoDopeOnSundays
Album is dope, breath of fresh air compared to all the other **** dropping.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:38 pm
by Fat Kat
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Album is dope, breath of fresh air compared to all the other **** dropping.
Yep. It’s a pretty good album on first listen
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:09 pm
by j4remi
Fat Kat wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Album is dope, breath of fresh air compared to all the other **** dropping.
Yep. It’s a pretty good album on first listen
Yep. It def isn't for everyone. I get that. But I've given a lot of albums this year one spin and never again. This ain't one of those. I'll run it back a few times. Push and Earthgang are about the only two LP's I actually go back through so far this year, so that's a step.
Re: Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread V
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:10 pm
by SelbyCobra
I haven't had time for it yet, but just wanted to say I've really appreciated the dialog in here - makes me even more curious to listen now and see what's up.