OT: Trump shot at Rally.

[St Knick]

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I don't agree with alot of Cuban's tweets/points, but he gets a +1 from me for this post.
HODL!

[MrDollarBills]

Let's talk it out. What views of mine do you interpret to be racist? Perhaps we can have a good-faith exchange and understand each other better after.

We touched on it briefly a few or several pages back. I don’t see a reason to discuss because some of those things I vehemently disagree with you on and I can honestly say there's not much that can change my mind on those things.

But, to your point, these are your views and despite my opinion, you have every right to have them and express them, and I would prefer to leave it at that. This is ultimately supposed to be a discussion on Trump's attempted assassination.

Fair enough, appreciate the thoughtful response.

Maybe fate will have us share a blunt outside MSG after a thrilling Knicks playoff victory, enjoying the simpler things in life.

Yeah look, there's levels to this man, if I feel like I can have an honest, civil conversation with someone i disagree with just to see why they think or believe in what they do, I will.

It's not like we're sitting here disrespecting each other, or throwing bad words/slurs at each other. I will make jokes tho, as you can tell. And we do agree on this: no one should be shooting anyone. I just think we all need to start finding some kinda common ground as Americans to stand on because the more I sit and think the more I feel like we, meaning liberals, conservatives, etc, are being whipped up to go at each other's throats in the name of class warfare. The rich on both sides of the political spectrum aren't suffering from any of this. What about you and I though? Our families? Do we really want America to become a place where someone is getting shot because they're standing behind Trump or Biden at a rally? That's not what I'm about.

And if fate wills, not a playoff victory, but a championship. Nothing less. Aim higher lmao

[Fury]

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[MrDollarBills]

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I don't agree with alot of Cuban's tweets/points, but he gets a +1 from me for this post.
HODL!

On a related note, Cuban's work on giving Americans access to Rx drugs at affordable costs is really good from what I've seen. If he ever ran, I'd at least give him a listen.

[MrDollarBills]

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This is foul on so many levels.

[MrDollarBills]

This is what they want us to side with

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Why do I get the feeling come November, Biden is going to win in a pretty unremarkable election and people will look back and realize Trump’s campaign is purely on social media. Who is this appealing to?

I began to think this after the Red Wave stuff from the last cycle was 100% social media generated. The amount of people who this appeals to isn't a large group imo.

Most Americans aren't as loud about this stuff outside of social media.

Well, except people like the white dude who lives around the corner that has a Punisher skull on his F150 and a "F*ck Joe and the ho!" bumper sticker

[Riot Randolph]

This is what they want us to side with

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Why do I get the feeling come November, Biden is going to win in a pretty unremarkable election and people will look back and realize Trump’s campaign is purely on social media. Who is this appealing to?

I began to think this after the Red Wave stuff from the last cycle was 100% social media generated. The amount of people who this appeals to isn't a large group imo.

Most Americans aren't as loud about this stuff outside of social media.

Well, except people like the white dude who lives around the corner that has a Punisher skull on his F150 and a "F*ck Joe and the ho!" bumper sticker

538 has Biden winning 53/100 times…I think this is all MSM bluster …

[Pointgod]

IMO i'd rather have a strong leader over a spineless administration and a weak America. Come Nov 4th, I guess we will see if that 30% is actually closer to 60%.

Damn that’s some real beta behavior

You sound programmed ....that's real beta reaction.

Yes the guy who wants a King isn’t the programmed one……

[RHODEY]

Is Trump not a threat to democracy? Do actually disagree?

I don't believe he is. Definitely not relative to Democratic policies that restrict business growth, a strong America, free speech, family values , capitalism etc. I feel way less "Free" under the Democrats than Trump.

Interesting.

Can you provide an example of a way that Democratic governance has restricted your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms in any way? Just one or two if you want. I just want to see why you feel that way.

Why "interesting"? A google search would give you loads of examples....enjoy!


https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/03/14/the-biden-tax-hike-will-likely-exceed-7-trillion/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-call-unisex-bathrooms-capitol-rcna33778

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/democrats-and-republicans-starkly-divided-immigration-policy

https://www.rifnyc.org/benefits-in-nyc

[Neutral 123]

I don't expect to change your mind, but

Inflation was largely the corporations trying to increase profits. Corporations that support Trump, and I don't want to say that it was whole an effort to boost Trump, but it's a fact that corporations were eager to raise prices after covid. That would have happened anyway, but . . . corporations are also happy to help Trump because he's more likely to cut corporate taxes and far less likely to raise minimum wage. So, blaming Biden for that, when a lot of it was COVID restrictions ending, and not recognizing that the party you support is pro corporation, is a questionable stance.

Inflation is going down now, by the way. That's the free market kicking in. Corporations raised prices as much as they could, then adjusted back down for the market.

Covid started under Trump. Also, when covid started, hospitals were overrun. Our system couldn't handle it. Restrictions actually were necessary, at least for a while. Maybe not 2 years. Certainly, more than 2 weeks. Who promised 2 weeks by the way? I don't remember that.

White supremacy played a role on the attack on the capital. I don't think Biden's claim was as far off as you think.

Do you think liberalism is the greatest threat to America? Just curious.

The covid vaccination wasn't dangerous and people in some positions were required to take it or lose their job. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's not that unreasonable.

Biden barely talks about Trans rights a whole lot. He actually spoke against surgeries. Trans is in the culture. That's not on Biden.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/lgbtq-orgs-blast-joe-biden-s-cowardly-statement-opposing-surgeries-for-trans-youth/ar-BB1plOco?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Race guidelines for hiring precede Biden by about 50 years.

Biden never compared Trump to Hitler. I know people who have. Trump's vice president pick has. I'm pretty sure Biden hasn't.

. . .

I know none of this will change your mind, but a lot of your points aren't good points. Maybe we can agree on that much.

Inflation IS government increasing the money supply. It's not even true that increasing your prices increases profits. This is all basic economics, but people know things because they repeat what they hear in the mainstream media.

Liberalism is not a threat to America, socialism is, and that is where America is headed.

Small tangent here, but that's also correct.
Inflation is not primarily from "Generic corporate greed" (that may be part of it and/or downstream behavior).
It's roots come from inflating the money supply, which makes everyone saving/being paid in dollars subsidize these hidden taxes (to fund, you know, the war in Ukraine, etc.

On a more practical/pragmatic note, if you hate this nonsense, I encourage you all to invest in Bitcoin. Consider it protesting/voting with your money by exiting the fiat monetary system (even if only partially). If your patient and HODL through the volatility, you'll be greatly rewarded for your bet.

I have been avoiding understanding what bitcoin is for years. Decided to go on a book listening/reading bender and read Saifdean Ammous The fiat standard and principles of economics. Great books that really make clear what money is and isn't and why bitcoin is real money. I'll be saving in bitcoin shortly. Just missed a nice dip. But given the way the world is headed, it's clear to me inflation is here to stay and at best we are going to get doctored numbers. Sti

[MrDollarBills]

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I'll say one thing. If Grindr ever has a data leak, there are gonna be some quick resignations.

[RHODEY]

Damn that’s some real beta behavior

You sound programmed ....that's real beta reaction.

Yes the guy who wants a King isn’t the programmed one……

Never said that sir...but its whatever you say Mr emotional.

[Fury]

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I'll say one thing. If Grindr ever has a data leak, there are gonna be some quick resignations.

It would be a shame if Iran hacked the RNC

[Fury]

I don't believe he is. Definitely not relative to Democratic policies that restrict business growth, a strong America, free speech, family values , capitalism etc. I feel way less "Free" under the Democrats than Trump.

Interesting.

Can you provide an example of a way that Democratic governance has restricted your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms in any way? Just one or two if you want. I just want to see why you feel that way.

Why "interesting"? A google search would give you loads of examples....enjoy!


https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/03/14/the-biden-tax-hike-will-likely-exceed-7-trillion/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-call-unisex-bathrooms-capitol-rcna33778

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/democrats-and-republicans-starkly-divided-immigration-policy

https://www.rifnyc.org/benefits-in-nyc

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-2017-trump-tax-law-was-skewed-to-the-rich-expensive-and-failed-to-deliver

The other stuff just has to do with your bigotry/selfishness. Not your “freedom.”

[Jalen Bluntson]

Trump has single handedly destroyed the fabric of this country and the entire concept of a United States. I am officially done. Project 2025 is real and Agenda 47 is a dumbed down version to fool his followers into voting for fascism as opposed to catching him trying to destroy democracy. This is real evil **** and all evil must be destroyed. That's Christian morality right? Right? Fuggin bunch of ass clowns running around fist pumping this POS human should all burn in hell with him! My Christian morals cannot stand to see this happen to God's country! I hope you all burn in hell!!!

Oh, wait. I can just vote against him in November? Damn. Sorry. I was just kidding. I didn't know that there were fair elections to decide these things.

Wait, what? AWW MAN! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME ELECTIONS ARE RIGGED?

What am I to do?

[St Knick]

Trump gets a bullet aimed at his head, thankfully evades being murdered, and yet somehow your pushing blame on him. Some logic

I'm simply trying to remind you that a person died over this. There's nothing bad ass about this, it's a tragedy that should have never happened. I'm not blaming Trump for the incompetence of the USSS.

I disagreed 100% with the victim's views and hate speech but I have empathy for him and I find it messed up that Don can't even be bothered to call his widow to offer condolences.

Respectfully challenging your assertion that Trump did not contact the widow. See nytimes link below.

Wrong source?
Rush to post (understandable during this emotional time)?
Other?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/widow-call-trump-biden.html
or if you don't like paywalls and dare to venture to the dark side ==> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-widow-firefighter-who-died-protecting-his-family-he-very-kind

[St Knick]

jesus both links are paywalls. i miss the early 2000s internet.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't believe he is. Definitely not relative to Democratic policies that restrict business growth, a strong America, free speech, family values , capitalism etc. I feel way less "Free" under the Democrats than Trump.

Interesting.

Can you provide an example of a way that Democratic governance has restricted your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms in any way? Just one or two if you want. I just want to see why you feel that way.

Why "interesting"? A google search would give you loads of examples....enjoy!


https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/03/14/the-biden-tax-hike-will-likely-exceed-7-trillion/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-call-unisex-bathrooms-capitol-rcna33778

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/democrats-and-republicans-starkly-divided-immigration-policy

https://www.rifnyc.org/benefits-in-nyc

Oh, interesting meaning I was interested to hear why you believe that the Democrats are restricting your constitutionally guaranteed rights.

So, Biden's tax plan from what I've read from multiple sources impacts people making 400k and up, and imposes a 25% min tax on billionaire's.

How does that impact your freedom? Not to get into your pockets but do you fall in between the 400k to 1B range?

Biden wanted to shut the border down and Trump ordered his loyalists in the house to prevent this. That being said, how does immigration impact your freedoms?

How do unisex bathrooms impact your freedom?

The last link is regarding asylum seekers obtaining access to social services to help them. How does that impact your freedom? Why is it bad to help people? I mean providing asylum seekers with pathways to citizenship, jobs that they will be paying taxes on, and help finding places to live doesn't seem bad at all.

[MrDollarBills]

Trump gets a bullet aimed at his head, thankfully evades being murdered, and yet somehow your pushing blame on him. Some logic

I'm simply trying to remind you that a person died over this. There's nothing bad ass about this, it's a tragedy that should have never happened. I'm not blaming Trump for the incompetence of the USSS.

I disagreed 100% with the victim's views and hate speech but I have empathy for him and I find it messed up that Don can't even be bothered to call his widow to offer condolences.

Respectfully challenging your assertion that Trump did not contact the widow. See nytimes link below.

Wrong source?
Rush to post (understandable during this emotional time)?
Other?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/widow-call-trump-biden.html
or if you don't like paywalls and dare to venture to the dark side ==> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-widow-firefighter-who-died-protecting-his-family-he-very-kind

Okay good, he finally called her. I didn't hear anything since it was reported that he didn't. Thanks for the update.

I hope that family will be alright all politics aside. That was vile.