Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued

[nykballa2k4]

Scott Perry officially back to the Kings.

Even though he was a bit of a mixed bag for us, I think he’ll help the kings

Perry was one of the people in the FO who advised against trading for Donovan Mitchell. Which you and I agree was a debacle.

He also - along with Mills - hired Fizdale, drafted Knox, drafted RJ over Garland, and moved KP only to fail to sign Durant in free agency.

He did sign Randle and he did draft Mitch with a second round pick, but he was overall incompetent and there's little doubt in my mind the Knicks were headed towards the abyss with him steering the ship.

What I am hearing is the Perry was competent.

Anyone who has the marbles to have avoided the Jazz Spida trade is clearly a cut above.

The fact that anyone would have signed off on Grimes, Mitch, RJ + picks galore for Spida is deplorable.

[Capn'O]

You can build a good team with Sabonis and they did... but you need stout defenders and they completely went away from that.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This is hilarious.

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The Kings traded an all-NBA PG to get him, and then another all-star PG this year all to circle back to needing a PG. I would have fired McNair three times over.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Perry is perfect for the Kings, and I don’t mean that as a compliment

[Capn'O]

This is hilarious.

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The Kings traded an all-NBA PG to get him, and then another all-star PG this year all to circle back to needing a PG. I would have fired McNair three times over.

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Even though he was a bit of a mixed bag for us, I think he’ll help the kings

Perry was one of the people in the FO who advised against trading for Donovan Mitchell. Which you and I agree was a debacle.

He also - along with Mills - hired Fizdale, drafted Knox, drafted RJ over Garland, and moved KP only to fail to sign Durant in free agency.

He did sign Randle and he did draft Mitch with a second round pick, but he was overall incompetent and there's little doubt in my mind the Knicks were headed towards the abyss with him steering the ship.

What I am hearing is the Perry was competent.

Anyone who has the marbles to have avoided the Jazz Spida trade is clearly a cut above.

The fact that anyone would have signed off on Grimes, Mitch, RJ + picks galore for Spida is deplorable.

Passing on Mitchell was Leon’s call anyway.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This is hilarious.

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The Kings traded an all-NBA PG to get him, and then another all-star PG this year all to circle back to needing a PG. I would have fired McNair three times over.

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Just brain dead ownership, I cannot fathom why you'd trade the younger of the two players that play the same positon, he's on a rookie contract and gave you more room to try and build. The fact Fox left and they couldn't even get Castle, Vassell, Sochan or their pick this year is even more dumbfounding.

The coup de grâce to the season is that the Hawks get their pick if it's outside 1-12, because they traded a first for Huerter

[Chanel Bomber]

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The Kings traded an all-NBA PG to get him, and then another all-star PG this year all to circle back to needing a PG. I would have fired McNair three times over.

The original sin was trading Haliburton to build around Fox. Just a baffling decision. And then the dominoes started falling. Their good season was our COVID season with D. Rose and Randle - a miracle, but also an aberration.

[Chanel Bomber]

Even though he was a bit of a mixed bag for us, I think he’ll help the kings

Perry was one of the people in the FO who advised against trading for Donovan Mitchell. Which you and I agree was a debacle.

He also - along with Mills - hired Fizdale, drafted Knox, drafted RJ over Garland, and moved KP only to fail to sign Durant in free agency.

He did sign Randle and he did draft Mitch with a second round pick, but he was overall incompetent and there's little doubt in my mind the Knicks were headed towards the abyss with him steering the ship.

What I am hearing is the Perry was competent.

Anyone who has the marbles to have avoided the Jazz Spida trade is clearly a cut above.

The fact that anyone would have signed off on Grimes, Mitch, RJ + picks galore for Spida is deplorable.

I mean perhaps at this stage you can also revisit your stance on the topic.

Mitchell will be on the All-NBA first team this season, meanwhile the Cavaliers won 64 games this season with a small backcourt, and they supposedly paid a steeper price than Ainge's ask from us when the two organizations reportedly got close to an agreement, which was RJ, Grimes, 2 unprotected firsts, a protected first, and possibly another first rerouted to dump Fournier.

RJ is largely an irrelevant NBA player, so is Grimes, and the outgoing draft capital would've been less than what we gave up for Mikal, not to mention that we would have restocked on tradeable future firsts since 2022.

I mean you can say you disagree for reason X, Y, or Z, and that's fine, but to call trading for an All-NBA 1st team player and a future HOFer a "deplorable idea" is where you lose me completely. This is not Eddy Curry here, Mitchell is one of the best players in the NBA.

[spree2kawhi]

Yeah you need to explain why your boy is an empty stat player that chokes in every big game.

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No, I don’t need to explain anything because I don’t propose any nuthead trades out of spite. And don’t pull the playoff performer card. You know why and you know who… Everything has long been said. But it certainly was not hard to see that one coming why do you do that to yourself? Towns >>> Sabonis >>> Randle has not changed. Easy money.

I actually think Randle impacts wins more than Sabonis. Randle did lead the Knicks to aa 4th seed as the best player.

This is not even about Sabonis at all, but about a hypocritical poster literally suggesting to trade Towns, “Mikalikina” and Hart for Durant and LaVine because they won’t win us a championship in the first year together, meanwhile his guys entirely failed to make the playoffs. He is just deflecting to Sabonis, who I wouldn’t trade for anymore. I sure would’ve traded Randle for Sabonis for years though, but that is not the point at all.

You cannot cherry-pick seasons either, so note that in the 2022-23 season, Randle and Brunson led this team to a 5th seed in the East and record that year was 47-35. In that same year, Sabonis and Fox led an otherwise underwhelming Sacramento roster to a 3rd seed in a tougher conference and a 48-34 record. If you really want to go into that debate (which I don’t and didn’t want to start in the first place), check their career winning percentages.

I get it, he didn’t make the playoffs this year after a year of unprecedented turmoil and mismanagement, but it certainly was not his fault as he’d averaged 19.1 ppg, 13.9 rpg (1st in NBA), 6.0 apg on 59.0 FG%, and most notably 41.7 3P%. This is nuts. He’s by far the better and also more intelligent player.

But again, this wasn’t even the point. I do, however, refuse to accept this nonsensical and spiteful Towns and Bridges bashing by one poster. This isn’t about Sabonis but this particular poster’s claim that we “need to get rid of Towns” and Mikalikina no matter what and his astounding lack of feasible alternatives, cluelessness as well as idiotic expectations. He brought up Sabonis’s failure to reach the playoffs but suggests that we had better build around LaVine and 37 yo Durant suggesting our guys won’t win a championship right away because they don’t defend. That’s insane.

I mean, that’s the epitome of stupidity and hypocrisy and trolling.

[3toheadmelo]

No, I don’t need to explain anything because I don’t propose any nuthead trades out of spite. And don’t pull the playoff performer card. You know why and you know who… Everything has long been said. But it certainly was not hard to see that one coming why do you do that to yourself? Towns >>> Sabonis >>> Randle has not changed. Easy money.

I actually think Randle impacts wins more than Sabonis. Randle did lead the Knicks to aa 4th seed as the best player.

This is not even about Sabonis at all, but about a hypocritical poster suggesting to trade Towns, Mikalikina and Hart for Durant and LaVine because they won’t win us a championship in the first year together, meanwhile his guys entirely failed to make the playoffs. He is just deflecting to Sabonis, who I wouldn’t trade for anymore. I sure would’ve traded Randle for Sabonis for years though, but that is not the point at all.

You cannot cherry-pick seasons either, so note that in the 2022-23 season, Randle and Brunson led this team to a 5th seed in the East and record that year was 47-35. In that same year, Sabonis and Fox led an otherwise underwhelming Sacramento roster to a 3rd seed in a tougher conference and a 48-34 record. If you really want to go into that debate (which I don’t and didn’t want to start in the first place), check their career winning percentages.

I get it, he didn’t make the playoffs this year after a year of unprecedented turmoil and mismanagement, but it certainly was not his fault as he’d averaged 19.1 ppg, 13.9 rpg (1st in NBA), 6.0 apg on 59.0 FG%, and most notably 41.7 3P%. This is nuts. He’s by far the better and also more intelligent player.

But again, this wasn’t even the point. I do, however, refuse to accept this nonsensical and spiteful Towns and Bridges bashing by one poster. This isn’t about Sabonis but this particular poster’s claim that we “need to get rid of Towns” and Mikalikina no matter what and his astounding lack of feasible alternatives, cluelessness as well as idiotic expectations. He brought up Sabonis’s failure to reach the playoffs but suggests that we had better build around LaVine and 37 yo Durant suggesting our guys won’t win a championship right away because they don’t defend. That’s insane.

I mean, that’s the epitome of stupidity and hypocrisy and trolling.

You’re the same guy that cried for years saying we should trade for Nurkic, Jerami Grant, Sabonis and we need to build around Frank, Obi, Knox you’re really obsessed with me and you can’t even see how ass your takes are. Thank god you’re not our GM.

And where did I say trading for lavine would make us win a championship? All I said was that he is better than Mikal. Lmao.

[spree2kawhi]

I actually think Randle impacts wins more than Sabonis. Randle did lead the Knicks to aa 4th seed as the best player.

This is not even about Sabonis at all, but about a hypocritical poster suggesting to trade Towns, Mikalikina and Hart for Durant and LaVine because they won’t win us a championship in the first year together, meanwhile his guys entirely failed to make the playoffs. He is just deflecting to Sabonis, who I wouldn’t trade for anymore. I sure would’ve traded Randle for Sabonis for years though, but that is not the point at all.

You cannot cherry-pick seasons either, so note that in the 2022-23 season, Randle and Brunson led this team to a 5th seed in the East and record that year was 47-35. In that same year, Sabonis and Fox led an otherwise underwhelming Sacramento roster to a 3rd seed in a tougher conference and a 48-34 record. If you really want to go into that debate (which I don’t and didn’t want to start in the first place), check their career winning percentages.

I get it, he didn’t make the playoffs this year after a year of unprecedented turmoil and mismanagement, but it certainly was not his fault as he’d averaged 19.1 ppg, 13.9 rpg (1st in NBA), 6.0 apg on 59.0 FG%, and most notably 41.7 3P%. This is nuts. He’s by far the better and also more intelligent player.

But again, this wasn’t even the point. I do, however, refuse to accept this nonsensical and spiteful Towns and Bridges bashing by one poster. This isn’t about Sabonis but this particular poster’s claim that we “need to get rid of Towns” and Mikalikina no matter what and his astounding lack of feasible alternatives, cluelessness as well as idiotic expectations. He brought up Sabonis’s failure to reach the playoffs but suggests that we had better build around LaVine and 37 yo Durant suggesting our guys won’t win a championship right away because they don’t defend. That’s insane.

I mean, that’s the epitome of stupidity and hypocrisy and trolling.

You’re the same guy that cried for years saying we should trade for Nurkic, Jerami Grant, Sabonis and we need to build around Frank, Obi, Knox you’re really obsessed with me and you can’t even see how ass your takes are. Thank god you’re not our GM.

And where did I say trading for lavine would make us win a championship? All I said was that he is better than Mikal. Lmao.

You’re deflecting. Jerami Grant won’t help you here, I haven’t brought him up in years and he was very, very good back then. Frank, Obi and Knox won’t help you either, they were always just role players, and when we missed in the drafts because of them, you would have drafted DSJ. I was always a Mikal Bridges guy. And as for the GM thing, he actually did everything I would’ve done, so it wouldn’t make any difference. I’m not obsessed with you. I commend posters for their great insight and let others know when I disagree. You just happen to be terribly wrong all the time - in my opinion - and then you keep insisting and twisting and turning like a bonafide troll. You never give in and you’re very provocative, which I hate and also feel bad for, really. It’s not even personal, I wish you all the best.

Edit: and let me add one thing: LaVine may be better than Bridges, the guy has been lighting it up this year. But he sure is terrible on defense and he is paid twice as much. Good luck building around that.

[3toheadmelo]

This is not even about Sabonis at all, but about a hypocritical poster suggesting to trade Towns, Mikalikina and Hart for Durant and LaVine because they won’t win us a championship in the first year together, meanwhile his guys entirely failed to make the playoffs. He is just deflecting to Sabonis, who I wouldn’t trade for anymore. I sure would’ve traded Randle for Sabonis for years though, but that is not the point at all.

You cannot cherry-pick seasons either, so note that in the 2022-23 season, Randle and Brunson led this team to a 5th seed in the East and record that year was 47-35. In that same year, Sabonis and Fox led an otherwise underwhelming Sacramento roster to a 3rd seed in a tougher conference and a 48-34 record. If you really want to go into that debate (which I don’t and didn’t want to start in the first place), check their career winning percentages.

I get it, he didn’t make the playoffs this year after a year of unprecedented turmoil and mismanagement, but it certainly was not his fault as he’d averaged 19.1 ppg, 13.9 rpg (1st in NBA), 6.0 apg on 59.0 FG%, and most notably 41.7 3P%. This is nuts. He’s by far the better and also more intelligent player.

But again, this wasn’t even the point. I do, however, refuse to accept this nonsensical and spiteful Towns and Bridges bashing by one poster. This isn’t about Sabonis but this particular poster’s claim that we “need to get rid of Towns” and Mikalikina no matter what and his astounding lack of feasible alternatives, cluelessness as well as idiotic expectations. He brought up Sabonis’s failure to reach the playoffs but suggests that we had better build around LaVine and 37 yo Durant suggesting our guys won’t win a championship right away because they don’t defend. That’s insane.

I mean, that’s the epitome of stupidity and hypocrisy and trolling.

You’re the same guy that cried for years saying we should trade for Nurkic, Jerami Grant, Sabonis and we need to build around Frank, Obi, Knox you’re really obsessed with me and you can’t even see how ass your takes are. Thank god you’re not our GM.

And where did I say trading for lavine would make us win a championship? All I said was that he is better than Mikal. Lmao.

You’re deflecting. Jerami Grant won’t help you here, I haven’t brought him up in years and he was very, very good back then. Frank, Obi and Knox won’t help you either, they were always just role players, and when we missed in the drafts because of them, you would have drafted DSJ. I was always a Mikal Bridges guy. And as for the GM thing, he actually did everything I would’ve done, so it wouldn’t make any difference. I’m not obsessed with you. I commend posters for their great insight and let others know when I disagree. You just happen to be terribly wrong all the time - in my opinion - and then you keep insisting and twisting and turning like a bonafide troll. You never give in and you’re very provocative, which I hate and also feel bad for, really. It’s not even personal, I wish you all the best.

Imagine thinking a team of Nurkic, Sabonis, Jerami Grant, Frank, Obi and Knox is winning a championship. That’s trolling at its finest. It’s amazing how you’ve been wrong on everything and it continues to happen on a daily basis. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself with awful takes everyday? Do you not have any shame? Lmao.

[spree2kawhi]

You’re the same guy that cried for years saying we should trade for Nurkic, Jerami Grant, Sabonis and we need to build around Frank, Obi, Knox you’re really obsessed with me and you can’t even see how ass your takes are. Thank god you’re not our GM.

And where did I say trading for lavine would make us win a championship? All I said was that he is better than Mikal. Lmao.

You’re deflecting. Jerami Grant won’t help you here, I haven’t brought him up in years and he was very, very good back then. Frank, Obi and Knox won’t help you either, they were always just role players, and when we missed in the drafts because of them, you would have drafted DSJ. I was always a Mikal Bridges guy. And as for the GM thing, he actually did everything I would’ve done, so it wouldn’t make any difference. I’m not obsessed with you. I commend posters for their great insight and let others know when I disagree. You just happen to be terribly wrong all the time - in my opinion - and then you keep insisting and twisting and turning like a bonafide troll. You never give in and you’re very provocative, which I hate and also feel bad for, really. It’s not even personal, I wish you all the best.

Imagine thinking a team of Nurkic, Sabonis, Jerami Grant, Frank, Obi and Knox is winning a championship. That’s trolling at its finest. It’s amazing how you’ve been wrong on everything and it continues to happen on a daily basis. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself with awful takes everyday? Do you not have any shame? Lmao.

Troll.

[3toheadmelo]

You’re deflecting. Jerami Grant won’t help you here, I haven’t brought him up in years and he was very, very good back then. Frank, Obi and Knox won’t help you either, they were always just role players, and when we missed in the drafts because of them, you would have drafted DSJ. I was always a Mikal Bridges guy. And as for the GM thing, he actually did everything I would’ve done, so it wouldn’t make any difference. I’m not obsessed with you. I commend posters for their great insight and let others know when I disagree. You just happen to be terribly wrong all the time - in my opinion - and then you keep insisting and twisting and turning like a bonafide troll. You never give in and you’re very provocative, which I hate and also feel bad for, really. It’s not even personal, I wish you all the best.

Imagine thinking a team of Nurkic, Sabonis, Jerami Grant, Frank, Obi and Knox is winning a championship. That’s trolling at its finest. It’s amazing how you’ve been wrong on everything and it continues to happen on a daily basis. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself with awful takes everyday? Do you not have any shame? Lmao.

Troll.

Take a look in the mirror. And why are you so obsessed with me?

[spree2kawhi]

Imagine thinking a team of Nurkic, Sabonis, Jerami Grant, Frank, Obi and Knox is winning a championship. That’s trolling at its finest. It’s amazing how you’ve been wrong on everything and it continues to happen on a daily basis. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself with awful takes everyday? Do you not have any shame? Lmao.

Troll.

Take a look in the mirror. And why are you so obsessed with me?

I even took a minute and explained that I’m not.

[3toheadmelo]

Troll.

Take a look in the mirror. And why are you so obsessed with me?

I even took a minute and explained that I’m not.

Yet you can’t stop mentioning me. I was minding my own business and you went on a whole rant crying about lavine and KD after the kings game. You do realize you’re the one who keeps starting this right?

[spree2kawhi]

Take a look in the mirror. And why are you so obsessed with me?

I even took a minute and explained that I’m not.

Yet you can’t stop mentioning me. I was minding my own business and you went on a whole rant crying about lavine and KD after the kings game. You do realize you’re the one who keeps starting this right?

I’ll keep an eye on it. It’s been a long season and I’ll take that blame and, if you allow, trace some of it back to your history of what I’d call flamboyant delivery. Given what I’ve read here, I don’t think I can stop disagreeing, but I can certainly commend you for LaVine’s resurgence. Regardless, it has nothing to do with any action this team should take going forward and in my opinion you have failed to present anything substantial other than unwarranted complaints about Towns and Mikal. That’s not even a shot at you, it’s just an observation. Either way, I wouldn’t have expected such an output from LaVine ever again. Yet he still makes twice of what Mikal Bridges earns, so the latter is and will realistically be the much better option for us given his defensive ability - which has been there despite all attempts at denial. Not much is wrong with Mikal Bridges. He’s been very good when Brunson missed a month and also before (plus/minus, mid range etc).

This team may not win a championship this year, but no team has ever grown to that level that quickly and there are no better alternatives to Towns. Start Mitch over Hart and trade Deuce for Kessler in the offseason. We are close. I’ll certainly take Giannis, but I don’t think you could seriously make plans like that. Durant is too old and soon won’t even look like an upgrade anymore. Stay the course and enjoy. Dude, enjoy. Have a successful day!

[3toheadmelo]

I even took a minute and explained that I’m not.

Yet you can’t stop mentioning me. I was minding my own business and you went on a whole rant crying about lavine and KD after the kings game. You do realize you’re the one who keeps starting this right?

I’ll keep an eye on it. It’s been a long season and I’ll take that blame and, if you allow, trace some of it back to your history of what I’d call flamboyant delivery. Given what I’ve read here, I don’t think I can stop disagreeing, but I can certainly commend you for LaVine’s resurgence. Regardless, it has nothing to do with any action this team should take going forward and in my opinion you have failed to present anything substantial other than unwarranted complaints about Towns and Mikal. That’s not even a shot at you, it’s just an observation. Either way, I wouldn’t have expected such an output from LaVine ever again. Yet he still makes twice of what Mikal Bridges earns, so the latter is and will realistically be the much better option for us given his defensive ability - which has been there despite all attempts at denial. Not much is wrong with Mikal Bridges. He’s been very good when Brunson missed a month and also before (plus/minus, mid range etc).

This team may not win a championship this year, but no team has ever grown to that level that quickly and there are no better alternatives to Towns. Start Mitch over Hart and trade Deuce for Kessler in the offseason. We are close. I’ll certainly take Giannis, but I don’t think you could seriously make plans like that. Durant is too old and soon won’t even look like an upgrade anymore. Stay the course and enjoy. Dude, enjoy. Have a successful day!

I’m not reading all of that. Just stop mentioning me in every thread

[spree2kawhi]

Yet you can’t stop mentioning me. I was minding my own business and you went on a whole rant crying about lavine and KD after the kings game. You do realize you’re the one who keeps starting this right?

I’ll keep an eye on it. It’s been a long season and I’ll take that blame and, if you allow, trace some of it back to your history of what I’d call flamboyant delivery. Given what I’ve read here, I don’t think I can stop disagreeing, but I can certainly commend you for LaVine’s resurgence. Regardless, it has nothing to do with any action this team should take going forward and in my opinion you have failed to present anything substantial other than unwarranted complaints about Towns and Mikal. That’s not even a shot at you, it’s just an observation. Either way, I wouldn’t have expected such an output from LaVine ever again. Yet he still makes twice of what Mikal Bridges earns, so the latter is and will realistically be the much better option for us given his defensive ability - which has been there despite all attempts at denial. Not much is wrong with Mikal Bridges. He’s been very good when Brunson missed a month and also before (plus/minus, mid range etc).

This team may not win a championship this year, but no team has ever grown to that level that quickly and there are no better alternatives to Towns. Start Mitch over Hart and trade Deuce for Kessler in the offseason. We are close. I’ll certainly take Giannis, but I don’t think you could seriously make plans like that. Durant is too old and soon won’t even look like an upgrade anymore. Stay the course and enjoy. Dude, enjoy. Have a successful day!

I’m not reading all of that. Just stop mentioning me in every thread

Well, I guess I can say I’ve tried then Try to be right sometimes, that should help