OT: The WWE Thread

[IMAN5]

I only said the Bray vs Sheamus rumor because I read it on a wrestling news site and because those 2 were advertised as having a match on Main Event for the US Title.

[wolfv]

Damn I wish HBK and Flair were back in their primes

And Cena sounds like the same doofus he always was

[cavs4life03]

Wow wwe is getting better and better I can't believe im hooked on it again

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[BeagleBoss]

Great acting by both Bella's! I seriously got so pissed at Nikki lmao

[BeagleBoss]

This kid is awesome! http://youtu.be/oOV9kG4ye0A

[DowNY]

Great acting by both Bella's! I seriously got so pissed at Nikki lmao

I actually thought the opposite. Thought their acting was horrible & seemed forced.
Also, a very boring Raw. 1 of the worst Raw's in a while.

[Stannis]

Not trying to advertise. But WWE Network is great. I like it a lot. They have an Angle V. Undertaker match from 2003 on Smackdown streaming. This match alone beats any PPV WWE puts out now. Forgot how great Smackdown was back in 2002-2003. Used to think it sucked b/c I didn't have cable then (always assumed Raw was a lot better).

Wish they uploaded all the episodes. But they won't since guys like me will never watch Raw or a PPV. We'll just keep ourselves busy watching reruns lol.

Tried to watch Raw tonight. **** is so bad.

Also, the Monday Night Wars series looks to be great. Can't wait for the new #2 tomorrow.

[ctorres]

Great acting by both Bella's! I seriously got so pissed at Nikki lmao

I actually thought the opposite. Thought their acting was horrible & seemed forced.

Nikki came across more natural than Brie, but still delivered a few lines a bit awkwardly, particularly the last one about wishing Brie had died in her womb. It would have made more sinister if Nikki said the line quietly rather than screaming it.

Brie has really good diction and can memorize what she is given word for word. She seems to try hard. That's about all I could say nice about Brie's on the mic. Everything Brie says sounds like a script from a cheap soap opera. Someone's gotta work with Brie on making her sound more real.

Also, a very boring Raw. 1 of the worst Raw's in a while.

Heyman, Lesnar, Triple H, Steph, and Ambrose were all off.

[Butch718]

I have a feeling that you're going to get another DB situation in which the powers that be will try push someone like Reigns at next year's Rumble by having him win it, only for the crowd to be completely behind Ambrose. Before Dean took time off to do his crappy movie, he was getting the best face pops on the roster. Everything is just happening so organically with him. When he comes back, that momentum will only continue. In the meantime, fans are slowly starting to resent Reigns because he's being shoved down their throats. The guy is boring as hell as a solo competitor. He lacks charisma, mic skills and the ability to put together a strong match.

[Trav_NYK]

I have a feeling that you're going to get another DB situation in which the powers that be will try push someone like Reigns at next year's Rumble by having him win it, only for the crowd to be completely behind Ambrose. Before Dean took time off to do his crappy movie, he was getting the best face pops on the roster. Everything is just happening so organically with him. When he comes back, that momentum will only continue. In the meantime, fans are slowly starting to resent Reigns because he's being shoved down their throats. The guy is boring as hell as a solo competitor. He lacks charisma, mic skills and the ability to put together a strong match.

Yup thats exactly my feeling. I really want Roman to succeed in the WWE and get the title and be a face of the WWE but i dont want it to be forced. His mic skills are ok and his in ring abilities are fine; but his matches are just starting to become very boring. Dean Ambrose is just so natural and easy to be a crowd favorite but i highly doubt that WWE would let either him or Rollins win the title before Reigns; which to me isnt that much of a bad thing. If you think about it, giving Roman the title first would be better so that they can establish him and give him more popularity that his in ring ability and mic skills cant give him; Ambrose and Rollins will always be able to establish themselves later on because they have the mic skills and matches to hold them over until that ultimate push for that title. So i feel that even though Reigns is boring and is being forced upon us, it would be better for him to establish his self first among the Shield.

[IMAN5]

SUPER CENA LOOK AT ME I HIT GERMAN SUPLEXES TOOOOOOOOO

[Ruzious]

I have a feeling that you're going to get another DB situation in which the powers that be will try push someone like Reigns at next year's Rumble by having him win it, only for the crowd to be completely behind Ambrose. Before Dean took time off to do his crappy movie, he was getting the best face pops on the roster. Everything is just happening so organically with him. When he comes back, that momentum will only continue. In the meantime, fans are slowly starting to resent Reigns because he's being shoved down their throats. The guy is boring as hell as a solo competitor. He lacks charisma, mic skills and the ability to put together a strong match.

Yup thats exactly my feeling. I really want Roman to succeed in the WWE and get the title and be a face of the WWE but i dont want it to be forced. His mic skills are ok and his in ring abilities are fine; but his matches are just starting to become very boring. Dean Ambrose is just so natural and easy to be a crowd favorite but i highly doubt that WWE would let either him or Rollins win the title before Reigns; which to me isnt that much of a bad thing. If you think about it, giving Roman the title first would be better so that they can establish him and give him more popularity that his in ring ability and mic skills cant give him; Ambrose and Rollins will always be able to establish themselves later on because they have the mic skills and matches to hold them over until that ultimate push for that title. So i feel that even though Reigns is boring and is being forced upon us, it would be better for him to establish his self first among the Shield.

I agree with some of that, but the look factor does have some validity. I like the small wrestlers as much as anyone, but I think a good percentage of fans want the top stars to look like a million bucks. At least it factors in. Daniel Bryan's performances were so exceptional week after week that he earned the exception. Ambrose is a helluva talker and a good in-ring performer, but he's not Bryan as a wrestler, and he doesn't look like a megastar. Reigns has the championship look, and he has a chance to develop in the other areas - though he's not there yet. If they take their time with him, they have gold.

[IMAN5]

I just rewatched the bryan vs bray cage match and that was unbelievable. Yes chant was so loud, momentum was so high, that moment Bryan had is what wrestlers dream for their entire life. to have the entire crowd at the palm of your hand. everyone behind you, not a person in the crowd not screaming. and the crowd was on fire, they were chanting and doing the yes chant hand motions at the exact time. that was insane to watch, and still rewatching it is unbelievable to relive.

[Fury]

I just rewatched the bryan vs bray cage match and that was unbelievable. Yes chant was so loud, momentum was so high, that moment Bryan had is what wrestlers dream for their entire life. to have the entire crowd at the palm of your hand. everyone behind you, not a person in the crowd not screaming. and the crowd was on fire, they were chanting and doing the yes chant hand motions at the exact time. that was insane to watch, and still rewatching it is unbelievable to relive.

That is easily the loudest I've heard a crowd since the Attitude era.

As far as RAW goes, they did a good job of moving some stories, but it was kind of boring. Really missed Ambrose and Triple H. I don't hate John Cena like most people, I think he can be really good when he wants to be, and I get what they tried to do yesterday, but he's just not captivating. The Wyatts are **** right now.

[Butch718]

I agree with some of that, but the look factor does have some validity. I like the small wrestlers as much as anyone, but I think a good percentage of fans want the top stars to look like a million bucks. At least it factors in. Daniel Bryan's performances were so exceptional week after week that he earned the exception. Ambrose is a helluva talker and a good in-ring performer, but he's not Bryan as a wrestler, and he doesn't look like a megastar. Reigns has the championship look, and he has a chance to develop in the other areas - though he's not there yet. If they take their time with him, they have gold.

The most importan thing is that Dean knows how to sell a match. His in ring pyschology is top notch. Two of the most popular stars during the Attitude Era(Stone Cold and the Rock) were never master technicians in the ring. But they both managed to put together lots of memorable matches during their time because they could sell and tell a damn good story in the ring. And looks are overrated. You just need a guy that can connect with the fans week after week and Dean has that it factor. Roman simply doesn't. He's the only guy out of there three that still hasn't carved an identity for himself post Shield breakup. He still has the same attire, entrance and gimmick. Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in the company, while Dean is one of the top faces. Where's Seth? There's been no growth on his part. He's just the same.

[Ruzious]

I agree with some of that, but the look factor does have some validity. I like the small wrestlers as much as anyone, but I think a good percentage of fans want the top stars to look like a million bucks. At least it factors in. Daniel Bryan's performances were so exceptional week after week that he earned the exception. Ambrose is a helluva talker and a good in-ring performer, but he's not Bryan as a wrestler, and he doesn't look like a megastar. Reigns has the championship look, and he has a chance to develop in the other areas - though he's not there yet. If they take their time with him, they have gold.

The most importan thing is that Dean knows how to sell a match. His in ring pyschology is top notch. Two of the most popular stars during the Attitude Era(Stone Cold and the Rock) were never master technicians in the ring. But they both managed to put together lots of memorable matches during their time because they could sell and tell a damn good story in the ring. And looks are overrated. You just need a guy that can connect with the fans week after week and Dean has that it factor. Roman simply doesn't. He's the only guy out of there three that still hasn't carved an identity for himself post Shield breakup. He still has the same attire, entrance and gimmick. Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in the company, while Dean is one of the top faces. Where's Seth? There's been no growth on his part. He's just the same.

I think you're missing that Rock and SCSA LOOKED the part - miles more than Dean does. Looks obviously aren't the end all and be all, but to simply ignore them out of hand isn't what people do off the internet.

Rollins actually has grown quite a lot - especially if you go back to his Tyler Black days. People didn't think he could talk at all. He's obviously got a ways to go, but his improvement there has been dramatic. And he's great in the ring - it's not surprising that Brian Danielson was a mentor of his.

All 3 of them are doing great. As far as being able to one of the top 2 or 3 guys in the company, Reins is the one who's got the best shot - easily. But you gotta give him some time.

[jonny31623]

a little off topic here, but i have been watching wwe network, and i really liked john cena when he was going against the rock. i really think cena can be a good heel. monday night war was pretty good, when is the next episode? what time today?

[jonny31623]

a little off topic here, but i have been watching wwe network, and i really liked john cena when he was going against the rock. i really think cena can be a good heel. monday night war was pretty good, when is the next episode? what time today?

its on right now actually. pretty cool, apparently sting was suppose to be in NWO instead of hogan, until hogan decided to do it. that wouldve been crazy.

[Meat]

I agree with some of that, but the look factor does have some validity. I like the small wrestlers as much as anyone, but I think a good percentage of fans want the top stars to look like a million bucks. At least it factors in. Daniel Bryan's performances were so exceptional week after week that he earned the exception. Ambrose is a helluva talker and a good in-ring performer, but he's not Bryan as a wrestler, and he doesn't look like a megastar. Reigns has the championship look, and he has a chance to develop in the other areas - though he's not there yet. If they take their time with him, they have gold.

The most importan thing is that Dean knows how to sell a match. His in ring pyschology is top notch. Two of the most popular stars during the Attitude Era(Stone Cold and the Rock) were never master technicians in the ring. But they both managed to put together lots of memorable matches during their time because they could sell and tell a damn good story in the ring. And looks are overrated. You just need a guy that can connect with the fans week after week and Dean has that it factor. Roman simply doesn't. He's the only guy out of there three that still hasn't carved an identity for himself post Shield breakup. He still has the same attire, entrance and gimmick. Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in the company, while Dean is one of the top faces. Where's Seth? There's been no growth on his part. He's just the same.

I think you're missing that Rock and SCSA LOOKED the part - miles more than Dean does. Looks obviously aren't the end all and be all, but to simply ignore them out of hand isn't what people do off the internet.

Rollins actually has grown quite a lot - especially if you go back to his Tyler Black days. People didn't think he could talk at all. He's obviously got a ways to go, but his improvement there has been dramatic. And he's great in the ring - it's not surprising that Brian Danielson was a mentor of his.

All 3 of them are doing great. As far as being able to one of the top 2 or 3 guys in the company, Reins is the one who's got the best shot - easily. But you gotta give him some time.

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different era's though, and when you look at who's being groomed to be the wwe's next group of top tier talent there isnt a guy above 6'3 in the lot. reigns is easily the biggest

[kingquan316]

The most importan thing is that Dean knows how to sell a match. His in ring pyschology is top notch. Two of the most popular stars during the Attitude Era(Stone Cold and the Rock) were never master technicians in the ring. But they both managed to put together lots of memorable matches during their time because they could sell and tell a damn good story in the ring. And looks are overrated. You just need a guy that can connect with the fans week after week and Dean has that it factor. Roman simply doesn't. He's the only guy out of there three that still hasn't carved an identity for himself post Shield breakup. He still has the same attire, entrance and gimmick. Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in the company, while Dean is one of the top faces. Where's Seth? There's been no growth on his part. He's just the same.

I think you're missing that Rock and SCSA LOOKED the part - miles more than Dean does. Looks obviously aren't the end all and be all, but to simply ignore them out of hand isn't what people do off the internet.

Rollins actually has grown quite a lot - especially if you go back to his Tyler Black days. People didn't think he could talk at all. He's obviously got a ways to go, but his improvement there has been dramatic. And he's great in the ring - it's not surprising that Brian Danielson was a mentor of his.

All 3 of them are doing great. As far as being able to one of the top 2 or 3 guys in the company, Reins is the one who's got the best shot - easily. But you gotta give him some time.

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different era's though, and when you look at who's being groomed to be the wwe's next group of top tier talent there isnt a guy above 6'3 in the lot. reigns is easily the biggest

Well the thing is Reigns has to get better at promos. That is the biggest thing holding him back from becoming the top guy. Look back at all the franchise players in wwe, they all know how to talk. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena (even though i would argue Cena is bad on the mic, based on the material he says, and not actually the delivery of the promos). Wwe shouldn't force someone to be the new top guy, just push certain wrestlers based on crowd reaction, it really isn't that hard. If Dean keeps building on the momentum he is getting with the crowd, and Reigns hasn't improved on building a personality and promos, the crowd will revolt against Reigns, no doubt in my mind. I can already picture at the Rumble, with Dean, Seth, and Reigns being the final 3, and the crowd will cheer for Dean, and assuming Reigns wins it getting the Batista reaction from the last Rumble. Wwe changed plans based on that, lets see wat they do if that occurs a second year in a row.