MeloDrama Part V

xNewYorkMadex · Post #1881 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:12 pm

I think we might be looking deeper into things for no reason. There might not be any hidden meanings behind Melo not making an announcement yet.

Before free agency even started, Marc Spears did say Melo will make his decision by the 2nd week of July. Before Melo went on his tour, there were numerous reports stating he would take the entire weekend (3 day weekend since it was a holiday on Friday) to make a decision.

So far both reports have been on point. It is a big decision for him. LA/NY/CHI both have their strengths and weaknesses for the present and future. I do expect an announcement later on today or tomorrow.

Post #1882 » by **duetta** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:12 pm

j4remi wrote:SAS said NY is the front runner, Melo wants a no-trade clause in the contract."

He can't have a no trade. If he insists, we'll be happy to negotiate a fair S&T with Chicago.

Post #1883 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:14 pm

j4remi wrote:SAS said NY is the front runner, Melo wants a no-trade clause in the contract.

Mentioned Philly as an option to take an Amare/Shump trade for a salary dump.

Mentioned if Bosh opts out, Miami is a possibility. Mentioned Houston, Dallas, LA as still in the mix. Ended it with a "but the Melo I know loves his money."

While it's rarely heard a no-trade clause isn't that out of the ordinary. Kevin Garnett is the last notable player that had a no trade clause when Boston was looking to ship him to Brooklyn. It just means that, in this case, Anthony would have to approve. My guess it's protection, like with Garnett, so that he doesn't get shipped somewhere he doesn't want to at the tail end of this career/contract. To which, at this point in his career where realistically his only destinations are teams that are already or near contending, I can't see it as being a big deal. If his concern is that at age 34 that the Knicks try to ship him to an equivalent to the Kings, I doubt that that's going to happen anyways.

Jay10 · Post #1884 » by **Jay10** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:14 pm

Bob Ross wrote:There are a ton of reasons why he may not have agreed already.

1. Maybe he has his eyes on another team like some of y'all are saying

2. Working out finer details and specifics. SAS says he wants a no trade clause.

3. He really did want a few days to let it all sink in

4. He likes how this has gotten everyone all fired up. NBA star egos are something that many of us have probably never truly experienced. He seriously may be loving everyone wondering what he's gonna do.

5. Variables that we have no clue about

This is all my speculation. What the hell do I know

6. He's going to milk this until the moratorium ends.

bishnykfan · Post #1885 » by **bishnykfan** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:15 pm

j4remi wrote:SAS said NY is the front runner, Melo wants a no-trade clause in the contract.

Mentioned Philly as an option to take an Amare/Shump trade for a salary dump.

Mentioned if Bosh opts out, Miami is a possibility. Mentioned Houston, Dallas, LA as still in the mix. Ended it with a "but the Melo I know loves his money."

I hope they have something lined up if they are just going to give away Amare/Shump. I wonder what that could be?

Also, could this no-trade request be an excuse Melo uses to leave? Are no-trade clauses common in the NBA?

Post #1886 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:15 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:It's 85 degrees in your useless Fahrenheits and I started drinking just after lunch. This is going to be a long day.

White Russian?

Jay10 · Post #1887 » by **Jay10** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:15 pm

this forums will go nuts if he gets a no-trade clause in his contract.

Workforce250 · Post #1888 » by **Workforce250** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:16 pm

Perhaps he hasn't made a public statement is because its about 6am in LA.

Cheez let the man get some sleep. You guys a ridiculous.

Rasho Brezec · Post #1889 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:16 pm

Giving him a no-trade clause lowers his trade value, it shouldn't be done under any circumstances.

Jay10 · Post #1890 » by **Jay10** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:17 pm

moocow007 wrote:
j4remi wrote:SAS said NY is the front runner, Melo wants a no-trade clause in the contract.

Mentioned Philly as an option to take an Amare/Shump trade for a salary dump.

Mentioned if Bosh opts out, Miami is a possibility. Mentioned Houston, Dallas, LA as still in the mix. Ended it with a "but the Melo I know loves his money."

While it's rarely heard a no-trade clause isn't that out of the ordinary. Kevin Garnett is the last notable player that had a no trade clause when Boston was looking to ship him to Brooklyn. It just means that, in this case, Anthony would have to approve. My guess it's protection, like with Garnett, so that he doesn't get shipped somewhere he doesn't want to at the tail end of this career/contract. To which, at this point in his career where realistically his only destinations are teams that are already or near contending, I can't see it as being a big deal. If his concern is that at age 34 that the Knicks try to ship him to an equivalent to the Kings, I doubt that that's going to happen anyways.

Don't players that sign 2 year contracts have a no-trade clause in their contracts?

Post #1891 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:18 pm

Jay10 wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:There are a ton of reasons why he may not have agreed already.

1. Maybe he has his eyes on another team like some of y'all are saying

2. Working out finer details and specifics. SAS says he wants a no trade clause.

3. He really did want a few days to let it all sink in

4. He likes how this has gotten everyone all fired up. NBA star egos are something that many of us have probably never truly experienced. He seriously may be loving everyone wondering what he's gonna do.

5. Variables that we have no clue about

This is all my speculation. What the hell do I know

6. He's going to milk this until the moratorium ends.

Dr. Detfink · Post #1892 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:21 pm

Right now, ESPN should be punching themselves in the d#ck right now.

Lebron has been watching the situation in Cleveland for a while now. No one was noticing that none of the teams have been taking a serious attempt to woo Lebron. It's staring you right in the face.

ESPN seems convinced Melo is smitten with the Lakers. That's crazy. Melo signs on, that team has zero space to sign another big free agent (unless they take a pay cut). In the West, they have no shot at getting past the Clippers, Rockets, Thunder...and NBA Champion Spurs. Melo is not that stupid.

liknicks7 · Post #1893 » by **liknicks7** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:22 pm

So maybe Phil did offer a max contract, Melo will accept and hopefully will take a bit of a paycut but the haggling going on right now is over the No-Trade Clause?

I found the Amare/Shump news interesting in the fact SAS would just bring that up unprovoked.

god shammgod · Post #1894 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:23 pm

milk is everywhere on this forum all of a sudden

Post #1895 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:27 pm

I wonder how many episodes they will cover Melo's free agency on next season of LaLa's full court life: LaLa in LA?

liknicks7 · Post #1896 » by **liknicks7** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:27 pm

****ing Tobey Maguire. It was all good til Spider Man got involved. We need Phil Jax to get in a Venom costume and narrate some ish

Trav_NYK · Post #1897 » by **Trav_NYK** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:27 pm

i don't get why everyone is going crazy over a no-trade clause, I think he deserves one.

Post #1898 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:28 pm

Jay10 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
j4remi wrote:SAS said NY is the front runner, Melo wants a no-trade clause in the contract.

Mentioned Philly as an option to take an Amare/Shump trade for a salary dump.

Mentioned if Bosh opts out, Miami is a possibility. Mentioned Houston, Dallas, LA as still in the mix. Ended it with a "but the Melo I know loves his money."

While it's rarely heard a no-trade clause isn't that out of the ordinary. Kevin Garnett is the last notable player that had a no trade clause when Boston was looking to ship him to Brooklyn. It just means that, in this case, Anthony would have to approve. My guess it's protection, like with Garnett, so that he doesn't get shipped somewhere he doesn't want to at the tail end of this career/contract. To which, at this point in his career where realistically his only destinations are teams that are already or near contending, I can't see it as being a big deal. If his concern is that at age 34 that the Knicks try to ship him to an equivalent to the Kings, I doubt that that's going to happen anyways.

Don't players that sign 2 year contracts have a no-trade clause in their contracts?

Not sure about 2 year contracts having a automatic no-trade clause.

Overall...not sure how the new CBA handles no trade clauses but the old CBA required that a player having played at least 8 years in the NBA and 4 years for the same team that he wishes to get a no trade clause with for the last 4 years. If it's the same then Carmelo Anthony qualifies and he's probably just asking for whatever he can get (it's not automatically given). I don't think this is a big deal per se.

EricAnderson · Post #1899 » by **EricAnderson** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:31 pm

kosmovitelli wrote:Don't hold your breath, so many BS rumors !

For example, Joe Lull started a BS rumor and Dan Gilbert immediatly responded and shot it down ! LOL

[tweet]https://twitter.com/LullOnSports/status/485848038536413184[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cavsdan/status/485860561473650689[/tweet]

It was actually Gilbert's plane he just wasn't on it he sent illgauskas

liknicks7 · Post #1900 » by **liknicks7** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:32 pm

Trav_NYK wrote:i don't get why everyone is going crazy over a no-trade clause, I think he deserves one.

If Melo doesnt deserve one then literally noone in the NBA besides Lebron (maybe KD) deserves one. So yea, I agree, he deserves one especially if he's just going to have a leap of faith in Phil, given he's rejoining a roster of overpaid misfits with plenty of moves needing to be made to be a contender.