OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

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[Polk377]

Damn that elbow from Brock...Sounded like some1 hit u with baseball bat
Doenst change the fact,that Brock is dumb as fck

Word is that Orton asked Brock to open him up the hard way and that is what was supposed to happen. They did not however anticipate the cut being that gruesome and bloody. The image of Orton laying in that puddle of blood was shocking. Orton is one tough SOB to ask Brock to do that. I think as stupid as it sounds was in response to what Conor Mcgregor said about wrestlers.

[Im Coming Home]

Damn that elbow from Brock...Sounded like some1 hit u with baseball bat
Doenst change the fact,that Brock is dumb as fck

Word is that Orton asked Brock to open him up the hard way and that is what was supposed to happen. They did not however anticipate the cut being that gruesome and bloody. The image of Orton laying in that puddle of blood was shocking. Orton is one tough SOB to ask Brock to do that. I think as stupid as it sounds was in response to what Conor Mcgregor said about wrestlers.

My cousin who knows Triple H's doctor(I know I know, but I am serious) said that Brock was not supposed to do that at all, and that Shane running out there was called on the fly as well. It wasn't supposed to end that quickly, it was the main event.

Sucks, two endings of summer slam in a row for the fans that had a weird/**** ending.

[Polk377]

Damn that elbow from Brock...Sounded like some1 hit u with baseball bat
Doenst change the fact,that Brock is dumb as fck

Word is that Orton asked Brock to open him up the hard way and that is what was supposed to happen. They did not however anticipate the cut being that gruesome and bloody. The image of Orton laying in that puddle of blood was shocking. Orton is one tough SOB to ask Brock to do that. I think as stupid as it sounds was in response to what Conor Mcgregor said about wrestlers.

My cousin who knows Triple H's doctor(I know I know, but I am serious) said that Brock was not supposed to do that at all, and that Shane running out there was called on the fly as well. It wasn't supposed to end that quickly, it was the main event.

Sucks, two endings of summer slam in a row for the fans that had a weird/**** ending.

lol that isn't exactly the most reliable source. Most Brock matches don't last long and they ended it making him look like even more of a monster. It also set something up for a Brock vs Shane match in the future. Shane is crazy enough to do it and it would be a big draw.

[Oscirus]

Rumor has it that she's injured again which is why she lost the belt.

[ctorres]

Might have been my least favorite Summerslam in the past 5 years, but I still enjoyed it!

Lesnar/Orton was a spectacle and main event worthy even if it didn't go long. Of course, both guys could have had a "technical" wrestling match, but the fight catered to casual fans. Lesnar is doing an amazing job at getting heat on him (playing up his "only doing it for the paycheck" character), and may succeed at eventually getting Reigns over. Props to Orton for his showmanship. Seeing that pool of blood was gruesome, but the dramatic effect was calculated to perfection. When I see blood in a match now, I can appreciate where/when it happens and it doesn't feel as senseless as it was 15 years ago.

Cena/Styles was a clinic and has me looking forward to what is next for Cena. I don't necessarily see a heel turn, but I am interested in seeing a shift in character for him, someone who starts to doubt himself and questions whether his time is up.

Ambrose/Ziggler was shorter than I would have liked and I was hoping Ziggler would come closer to winning, but it was a fun match. Ambrose kind of took on a "temporary" heel role in the match, and sold the crowd onto it. These guys have great chemistry, and part of me thinks it's not over yet between them. Styles and Orton are supposed to feud next, so other than Wyatt, the best opponent for Ambrose is still Ziggler.

I actually loved the finish to the Charlotte/Sasha match, very logical. I like Charlotte as a dominant athlete and physical specimen (heel or face), not a fan of her in a chickens*** Seth Rollins role. Sasha should deal with some adversity.

I didn't watch the Rollins/Balor match, didn't feel invested. I may go back and see it, but not sure how "must see" it is.

The Reigns/Rusev segment was odd, almost felt like a double turn. At ome point, I think Rusev yelled at Roman "this is for my wife!". Roman had finished off Rusev, left, and still came back to further injure him to the point where Rusev is heard saying he had trouble breathing. At no point here does Rusev seem like a villain. It will be hilarious to me if this feud eventually gets Rusev and Lana over as babyfaces.

I think The New Day will finally drop the belts to the Club during the next PPV. Then I could look forward to Jeri-KO winning the tag belts from The Club. Jeri-KO has the potential to get Owens over the same way Team Hell No got Daniel Bryan over.

Neville & Zayn is a really nice pairing and absolutely necessary. Both guys need to work on their personalities, which can be helped by being a tag team. Will be interesting to see who turns on who down the line.

Only a matter of time for the return of Bully Ray. Just gotta see how big of a role he'll have on Raw. No way he'll be as important as he was in TNA.

Outside of a few cheesy and sloppy moments, the 6-women tag match was alright. I've been bored with Natalya, but I like all the other women individually. They really need to work on their execution if they want to be taken seriously though. Sometimes it looked like they were having too much fun in the match, like they forget they're in a fight or competition. Maybe it's by design to cater to women and children in the audience, but it felt more like a "divas" match than a "women's" match.

Didn't catch the Miz/Crews match, though I'm glad Miz retained.

[xNewYorkMadex]

Charlotte is a damn good wrestler. She impressed the hell out of me.

I havent been into this Women's Revolution, feels as if they are forcing it on us. But that was a damn good match last night.

Still feel they made a horrible mistake making it 4 hours long. The crowd was mostly dead after the AJ-Cena match. I knew nothing about AJ Styles before he came to WWE. That dude is impressive. Fantastic match.

But getting back to my point about the PPV being 4 hours. By the time Rollins-Balor came around, I was tired. Really wasnt into it. I can imagine the crowd was a bit tired as well at that point. And made fun of the title for the majority of that match to entertain themselves. At some point, you are just tired of watching match after match after match. Especially after the Cena-Styles match. That was too hard to top.

I had my eyes closed for the majority of the Lesnar-Orton match. I really just wanted to sleep at that point. Did catch the ending though. I think it was staged. But at least WWE is doing a good job keeping us guessing whether that was supposed to happen or not. Still surprised that was the main event of the show.

[Polk377]

Rumor has it that she's injured again which is why she lost the belt.

Apparently she was taken off the road before this match due to a back injury so it is crazy that Sasha would take the bumps she did last night. That botched top rope spot was scary and stupid. It could have ended very badly for Sasha. Hopefully the injury is not too serious and she will be ready to go in a month. Now might be the time to bring Bayley up to feud with Charlotte and setup a triple threat with Sasha as well.

[jonny31623]

man, they gave balor the belt, only to have rollins injure his shoulder. that would be a toughhh break.

i love rollins as a performer, but hes really starting to get the label as someone whos dangerous to wrestle against. i think he has injured a few wrestlers now. and even some of the old school guys like bret heart have said something about it.

[Polk377]

man, they gave balor the belt, only to have rollins injure his shoulder. that would be a toughhh break.

i love rollins as a performer, but hes really starting to get the label as someone whos dangerous to wrestle against. i think he has injured a few wrestlers now. and even some of the old school guys like bret heart have said something about it.

A lot of his move set is very difficult to execute. That corner turnbuckle powerbomb should be another move that is banned especially to the outside barricade. First it injured Sting and now Balor.

[PeoplesChamp]

Bret Hart went 20 years without injuring anyone. Rollins can't seem to go a month. I saw it when it happened. Balor kept grabbing his hand at first. Then when he didn't raise it at all at the end, I knew he was headed for the shelf.

I'm glad I don't but PPVs. Outside of Balor & Styles, the WWE seemed hell bent on sending fans home unhappy. Sasha doesn't get ONE successful title defense? They're booking Charlotte like she's Ric. Someone would get a historic win over him then he'd get the belt right back a month later...the whole losing in your hometown tradition is azz backwards. I'm sure it's meant to humble the wrestlers but does nothing for a paying crowd and hurts the energy of the show, and this show could've used it. Especially going 4 hours. The crowd went dead for long periods of time. How is the US title match after both World & Uni titles? I don't know what they were trying to do with Brock-Orton, but it would've made me feel robbed if I were there. Cena's determined to make the final run of his career memorable. I think the fans can get off his back now. These fans should've lived through the Hogan years. It was 100x worse than Super Cena. Macho Man couldn't even have a run without Hogan booking himself as if he were co-champion.

[jonny31623]

man, they gave balor the belt, only to have rollins injure his shoulder. that would be a toughhh break.

i love rollins as a performer, but hes really starting to get the label as someone whos dangerous to wrestle against. i think he has injured a few wrestlers now. and even some of the old school guys like bret heart have said something about it.

A lot of his move set is very difficult to execute. That corner turnbuckle powerbomb should be another move that is banned especially to the outside barricade. First it injured Sting and now Balor.

dont forget cena's nose.

i like rollins, but dam man, you gotta take it easy. when he messed up sting, thats when he got that label.

[jonny31623]

anyone hear about the rock calling out vin diesel on his instagram account? calling him a candy ass or w/e?

i read an article that said the rock did that purposely so that they can start a beef leading to wrestlemania right before the premier of wrestlemania 8. build hype for the movie. you guys believe that?

thats vinny mac at his finest lol.....

[DowNY]

man, they gave balor the belt, only to have rollins injure his shoulder. that would be a toughhh break.

i love rollins as a performer, but hes really starting to get the label as someone whos dangerous to wrestle against. i think he has injured a few wrestlers now. and even some of the old school guys like bret heart have said something about it.

A lot of his move set is very difficult to execute. That corner turnbuckle powerbomb should be another move that is banned especially to the outside barricade. First it injured Sting and now Balor.

the buckle bomb should've gotten banned not the curb stomp. WWE are idiots.

[DowNY]

Going to try to keep this short as possible. Lol

NXT Takeover was great.
- No Way Jose seems to have a good aggressive side. Something Adam Rose & other gimmicks like his in NXT didn't seem to have. He had a good match with Aries. Hideo finally getting the ok to use the GTS is a good look.
- Ember Moon is the next woman up after Asuka. That off the rope twisting stunner (O-Face) is elite.
Billie Kay is bland & don't really have "it" to me. Can name many other women on the NXT roster who I rather see get a push.
Bobby Roode is glorious but that finisher is horrible. He better think of something else quick.
- The tag match was probably match of the night & I wasn't expecting it to be that good. Both teams are good. Got me invested at the end in not wanting the Revival to win.
- Asuka is underrated & elite. She probably can whip some dudes ass. Not sure how any woman can believably beat her. They better build Ember Moon up correctly.
Bayley is great & will continue to do great on Raw.
- SHINSUKE NAKAMURA IS ELITE. Dude has the "it" factor that WWE needs in their lives. The entrance, the look, the moves, the charisma, he's got it & definitely showed it on Saturday.
Samoa Joe is tough & hopefully the loss signifies his call up is before the year is out after he loses a rematch to Shinsuke. Smackdown can use a guy like him & potentially seeing Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles for the main title on Smackdown would be brain twisting & great.

Summerslam, a pile of turds with glitter on top.
- I enjoyed KO & Jericho's antics.
- Loved the Bulletclub backstage teaser.
- AJ going over Cena clean was much needed & awesome for AJ. Cena did the right thing. Balor over Finn was expected, at least from me. I was maybe expecting more though. Club interference or something but whatever.

Everything else was meh.
- Sasha supposedly wanted time off to heal up from injuries & personal reasons (honeymoon & stuff like that). Hopefully she doesn't get lost in the shuffle in her return. No Nia Jax or Paige feuds for her. Throw her right back in the mix at the top.
- New Day might as well break Demolition's record. Demolition is apart of the lawsuit against WWE/Vince with all them old school cats. New Day needs like 3 more months to break their record. Just do it. Their merchandise is still #1. No reason to not break the record at this point. Even if they have to turn back heel due to fans booing them for keeping the belts so long.
- Nikki Bella's return is whatever. She's more off a looker than a fighter. She better put Becky Lynch over as the brand's top woman.
- Why the hell was Bray Wyatt not on the damn PPV?! smh

The Brock/Randy situation was weird at first but I then remembered that they were in NY all week doing work for ESPN & being questioned about the Conor McGregor situation. Vince answered with this. Real elbows to split the head open & a TKO victory. Dudes ain't tough huh? STFU McGregor.



Sucks to see that Finn now is out 6 more months. Now we have to wait for the long awaited heel turn & Balor Club formation.
KO would be a great surprise winner next week for the title.

Raw is underwhelming otherwise.
Smackdown is way better than Raw. I'm sorry.

Dean isn't a great champion. I hope AJ Styles takes it from him real soon now that he's officially #1 contender. Ziggler is in an interesting transitional period in his career. Interested to see where his character goes.
Randy should put Bray over in this upcoming feud. Bray needs it more.
Carmella heel turn was brilliant. Very smart. She was going nowhere fast without Enzo & Cass while being a face.

Now....let's talk about this Miz promo

ELITE STUFF!
Best promo of the year.

Watch on YouTube

[Oscirus]

anyone hear about the rock calling out vin diesel on his instagram account? calling him a candy ass or w/e?

i read an article that said the rock did that purposely so that they can start a beef leading to wrestlemania right before the premier of wrestlemania 8. build hype for the movie. you guys believe that?

thats vinny mac at his finest lol.....

I doubt it. The only way Rock wrestles again is if he's in the ring with a general that knows what he's doing and won't injure Rocky. Someone like HHH.

[DowNY]

anyone hear about the rock calling out vin diesel on his instagram account? calling him a candy ass or w/e?

i read an article that said the rock did that purposely so that they can start a beef leading to wrestlemania right before the premier of wrestlemania 8. build hype for the movie. you guys believe that?

thats vinny mac at his finest lol.....

I doubt it. The only way Rock wrestles again is if he's in the ring with a general that knows what he's doing and won't injure Rocky. Someone like HHH.

Think again. The next Fast & Furious comes out in April. Same time as Wrestlemania. The chances of this match happening are 50/50 but don't discount it. Money talks.

[Oscirus]

anyone hear about the rock calling out vin diesel on his instagram account? calling him a candy ass or w/e?

i read an article that said the rock did that purposely so that they can start a beef leading to wrestlemania right before the premier of wrestlemania 8. build hype for the movie. you guys believe that?

thats vinny mac at his finest lol.....

I doubt it. The only way Rock wrestles again is if he's in the ring with a general that knows what he's doing and won't injure Rocky. Someone like HHH.

Think again. The next Fast & Furious comes out in April. Same time as Wrestlemania. The chances of this match happening are 50/50 but don't discount it. Money talks.

That doesn't mean anything, he has way too many future projects happening for him to risk being injured by being in the ring with an amateur.
Besides, fast and furious sells itself, it doesn't need to pull stunts.

[asuran]

My cousin who knows Triple H's doctor(I know I know, but I am serious) said that Brock was not supposed to do that at all, and that Shane running out there was called on the fly as well. It wasn't supposed to end that quickly, it was the main event.

Sucks, two endings of summer slam in a row for the fans that had a weird/**** ending.

It was a weird ending indeed.

I did noticed when Shane came out, Orton kind of moved away from the center of the ring towards one of the corners presumably to give space for Brock to F5 Shane. This is giving me a feeling that the F5 on Shane is part of the script.

My best guess is that the match was supposedly a bit longer but Brock and/or Orton changed/shortened up the script on the fly and forced everyone else to wing out the ending.

[Im Coming Home]

When wrestling is good, its **** great!

Raw finally had a good episode.

Seriously though, I wish there was a way to put the writers up against the wall like this every week.. they're so much better at coming up with stuff on the fly when their original plans get **** over.