2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 2)

[moocow007]

Updated mock from Wasserman. Knicks take Cole Anthony at #6...I would roll with Killian Hayes in this scenario

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2881349-2020-nba-mock-draft-questions-loom-during-basketball-hiatus?share=twitter#slide11

The New York Knicks figure to look past Cole Anthony's inefficiency at North Carolina, where it was clear he lacked talent around him and spacing. He still pumped in 18.5 points and 2.2 threes per game, and though his 4.0 assists sound underwhelming, his passing skills looked better than the numbers suggest.

Assuming new president Leon Rose isn't as familiar with international scouting, he's likely to have more of a comfort level drafting a player like Anthony, who'd give the lineup a new franchise point guard and familiar name for the agitated fanbase to get behind.

It will be interesting to see how much thought the Knicks give to Killian Hayes, a more natural playmaker than Anthony, but not the same caliber of scorer or shooter. It seems safer to project the Knicks taking the player they've presumably had eyes on since midway through high school. Anthony and Barrett could make for a dynamic offensive backcourt.

Hopefully Rose will realize what I think some of us at least have realized...that same thing is going to happen here if they draft him.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Updated mock from Wasserman. Knicks take Cole Anthony at #6...I would roll with Killian Hayes in this scenario

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2881349-2020-nba-mock-draft-questions-loom-during-basketball-hiatus?share=twitter#slide11

The New York Knicks figure to look past Cole Anthony's inefficiency at North Carolina, where it was clear he lacked talent around him and spacing. He still pumped in 18.5 points and 2.2 threes per game, and though his 4.0 assists sound underwhelming, his passing skills looked better than the numbers suggest.

Assuming new president Leon Rose isn't as familiar with international scouting, he's likely to have more of a comfort level drafting a player like Anthony, who'd give the lineup a new franchise point guard and familiar name for the agitated fanbase to get behind.

It will be interesting to see how much thought the Knicks give to Killian Hayes, a more natural playmaker than Anthony, but not the same caliber of scorer or shooter. It seems safer to project the Knicks taking the player they've presumably had eyes on since midway through high school. Anthony and Barrett could make for a dynamic offensive backcourt.

I'd prefer Hayes here over Cole too but if we're not in a position to draft LaMelo, we're going to draft Cole. Everything about drafting him makes too much sense. He's a native New Yorker and the son of a former Knicks player from the golden years 90's teams. It's already been leaked that we're looking for a scoring guard and Cole fits that description to a T. Rose is inexperienced and will probably want make a big splash that will please the normie fans and drafting Cole does that too. I just think it's just something we need to come to terms with. At least one thing Cole has going for him is he can shoot threes.

[malik959]

We have both Mitch and RJ to build off of so to say it'll be the same is just crazy. To me he's a better DSJ that can actually shoot. If DSJ could actually hit some shots and stay healthy we wouldn't even be having this conversation

[sol537]

Looks like we may not finish out the season. I'd like to keep things simple in the off-season and commit to our youth for once. Trade Randle in a salary dump. Then commit to starting:

5-Mitch
4-(Sign Jerami Grant!)
3-RJ
2-Frank
1-(Lotto pick -> Either Ball, Hayes, Halliburton)

That team would be a blast to watch even if they'd struggle at times. We could hang our hat on being a potentially elite defensive team and that's a great place to start.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Updated mock from Wasserman. Knicks take Cole Anthony at #6...I would roll with Killian Hayes in this scenario

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2881349-2020-nba-mock-draft-questions-loom-during-basketball-hiatus?share=twitter#slide11

The New York Knicks figure to look past Cole Anthony's inefficiency at North Carolina, where it was clear he lacked talent around him and spacing. He still pumped in 18.5 points and 2.2 threes per game, and though his 4.0 assists sound underwhelming, his passing skills looked better than the numbers suggest.

Assuming new president Leon Rose isn't as familiar with international scouting, he's likely to have more of a comfort level drafting a player like Anthony, who'd give the lineup a new franchise point guard and familiar name for the agitated fanbase to get behind.

It will be interesting to see how much thought the Knicks give to Killian Hayes, a more natural playmaker than Anthony, but not the same caliber of scorer or shooter. It seems safer to project the Knicks taking the player they've presumably had eyes on since midway through high school. Anthony and Barrett could make for a dynamic offensive backcourt.

I'd prefer Hayes here over Cole too but if we're not in a position to draft LaMelo, we're going to draft Cole. Everything about drafting him makes too much sense. He's a native New Yorker and the son of a former Knicks player from the golden years 90's teams. It's already been leaked that we're looking for a scoring guard and Cole fits that description to a T. Rose is inexperienced and will probably want make a big splash that will please the normie and drafting Cole does that too. I just think it's just something we need to come to terms with. At least one thing Cole has going for him is he can shoot threes.

Yeah, it does seem like that way.

I am not sure what to make of Cole. He has the skillset and tools to develop into a good player. The inefficiency and erratic play are def concerns. Overall, there are other players in that range I might take first.

[RHODEY]

Updated mock from Wasserman. Knicks take Cole Anthony at #6...I would roll with Killian Hayes in this scenario

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2881349-2020-nba-mock-draft-questions-loom-during-basketball-hiatus?share=twitter#slide11

The New York Knicks figure to look past Cole Anthony's inefficiency at North Carolina, where it was clear he lacked talent around him and spacing. He still pumped in 18.5 points and 2.2 threes per game, and though his 4.0 assists sound underwhelming, his passing skills looked better than the numbers suggest.

Assuming new president Leon Rose isn't as familiar with international scouting, he's likely to have more of a comfort level drafting a player like Anthony, who'd give the lineup a new franchise point guard and familiar name for the agitated fanbase to get behind.

It will be interesting to see how much thought the Knicks give to Killian Hayes, a more natural playmaker than Anthony, but not the same caliber of scorer or shooter. It seems safer to project the Knicks taking the player they've presumably had eyes on since midway through high school. Anthony and Barrett could make for a dynamic offensive backcourt.

I'd prefer Hayes here over Cole too but if we're not in a position to draft LaMelo, we're going to draft Cole. Everything about drafting him makes too much sense. He's a native New Yorker and the son of a former Knicks player from the golden years 90's teams. It's already been leaked that we're looking for a scoring guard and Cole fits that description to a T. Rose is inexperienced and will probably want make a big splash that will please the normie fans and drafting Cole does that too. I just think it's just something we need to come to terms with. At least one thing Cole has going for him is he can shoot threes.

It makes sense from a business perspective true, but from a basketball perspective?

Scoring - Coles - but with poor efficiency
Play making - Hayes is superior
Size - Hayes
BBall IQ - Hayes

But nobody expects this regime to actually have the balls to make the smart choice... You just have to hope that Cole's game translates better in the NBA...and it could.

[spree8]

I like Cole. None of these players are finished products, but he has a very good base to build on. His biggest issue is his efficiency which is really tied to his shot selection. That can improve with maturity, but most importantly, good coaching/development.

I’d be happy with a core of RJ, Cole, and Mitch. Frank n Dotson I would keep if we could do so on the cheap... Knox n DSJr can go. Trier... a ball hog but would be a solid 6th man depending on cost too. Nesmith with the LAC pick n we’re good.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Updated mock from Wasserman. Knicks take Cole Anthony at #6...I would roll with Killian Hayes in this scenario

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2881349-2020-nba-mock-draft-questions-loom-during-basketball-hiatus?share=twitter#slide11

I'd prefer Hayes here over Cole too but if we're not in a position to draft LaMelo, we're going to draft Cole. Everything about drafting him makes too much sense. He's a native New Yorker and the son of a former Knicks player from the golden years 90's teams. It's already been leaked that we're looking for a scoring guard and Cole fits that description to a T. Rose is inexperienced and will probably want make a big splash that will please the normie fans and drafting Cole does that too. I just think it's just something we need to come to terms with. At least one thing Cole has going for him is he can shoot threes.

It makes sense from a business perspective true, but from a basketball perspective?

Scoring - Coles - but with poor efficiency
Play making - Hayes is superior
Size - Hayes
BBall IQ - Hayes

But nobody expects this regime to actually have the balls to make the smart choice... You just have to hope that Cole's game translates better in the NBA...and it could.

Preaching to the choir on Hayes being the better chance. I'm already worried about Rose for not benching the vets after the all star break. That was already a red flag for me. I hope Rose is going to be bold and a visionary but I'm not holding my breath.

[RHODEY]

I'd prefer Hayes here over Cole too but if we're not in a position to draft LaMelo, we're going to draft Cole. Everything about drafting him makes too much sense. He's a native New Yorker and the son of a former Knicks player from the golden years 90's teams. It's already been leaked that we're looking for a scoring guard and Cole fits that description to a T. Rose is inexperienced and will probably want make a big splash that will please the normie fans and drafting Cole does that too. I just think it's just something we need to come to terms with. At least one thing Cole has going for him is he can shoot threes.

It makes sense from a business perspective true, but from a basketball perspective?

Scoring - Coles - but with poor efficiency
Play making - Hayes is superior
Size - Hayes
BBall IQ - Hayes

But nobody expects this regime to actually have the balls to make the smart choice... You just have to hope that Cole's game translates better in the NBA...and it could.

Preaching to the choir on Hayes being the better chance. I'm already worried about Rose for not benching the vets after the all star break. That was already a red flag for me. I hope Rose is going to be bold and a visionary but I'm not holding my breath.

Yep, were might have to just luck into some greatness....it happened with Ewing so yeah it could happen again someday.

[Marty McFly]

I'm not even worried about who we'll draft or not. Our player development system might be the worst in the entire league. until we change that, I won't be expecting who we draft to be a game changer.

[islanders11040]

I'm not even worried about who we'll draft or not. Our player development system might be the worst in the entire league. until we change that, I won't be expecting who we draft to be a game changer.

if we drafted Lebron i bet he would have been worse than lance thomas with our development

[RHODEY]

I'm not even worried about who we'll draft or not. Our player development system might be the worst in the entire league. until we change that, I won't be expecting who we draft to be a game changer.

if we drafted Lebron i bet he would have been worse than lance thomas with our development

I think Lebron, with his uber talent and self motivation would have thrived in any environment. Generation talent is hard to keep down.This is why I want a chance at Emoni Bates.

[Juco24]

I'm not even worried about who we'll draft or not. Our player development system might be the worst in the entire league. until we change that, I won't be expecting who we draft to be a game changer.

Curios -- Who have we drafted recently that we could've done better with developing?

Frank? Was it the development system or the multiple changes in coaching and management

Knox? Was it the development system or the player himself

Mitch? Can't argue where he is development speaking

RJ? What could have been done better?

Iggy? Ditto RJ

[RHODEY]

We need to get this kid...

Watch on YouTube

[malik959]

Cant leave out KP.

You can't get a player and before he even plays out his rookie contract you say we did a terrible job developing although you can see improvement. Players that are picked within 7th and 14th in a draft are usually players that you see the potential, they're very young, and they take 4-5 years to develop. So you have to be patient with them. Our problem is NY is a right now city so too me it's best to either trade up or trade down sense we dont like to wait. Knox. Barrett, and Frank have one thing in common and that is they are gym rats. If they could hit their shots at a higher percentage people would not be complaining. Well than again we'll find something.

[Thugger HBC]

The Knicks organization flat out refuses to develop young players. One of the many thing I cant stand about them.

[Juco24]

The Knicks organization flat out refuses to develop young players. One of the many thing I cant stand about them.

Expound?

[HerSports85]

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

I like Cole. None of these players are finished products, but he has a very good base to build on. His biggest issue is his efficiency which is really tied to his shot selection. That can improve with maturity, but most importantly, good coaching/development.

I’d be happy with a core of RJ, Cole, and Mitch. Frank n Dotson I would keep if we could do so on the cheap... Knox n DSJr can go. Trier... a ball hog but would be a solid 6th man depending on cost too. Nesmith with the LAC pick n we’re good.

Admittedly, I haven't studied him but from what I've seen he's really not a great decision maker with the ball. Nor is he a very good shooter. I'd rather draft a good shooting wing who can play defense.

[knickstape21]

We need to get this kid...

Watch on YouTube

Real potential here