2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath

[Clyde_Style]

So, false flag operation in Nashville or lunatic loner?

Could be either.

Did you see the security cam that captured the warning audio?

One thing that feels sketchy to me is reports that authorities think it was an amateur job. That feels like a presumptuous thing for any investigator to leak or say to a reporter if that account is true. For one, it doesn't seem all that amateur to me. There was some real specificity to how it was done and the clear intent to not kill bystanders. I don't have any ideas about the agenda or whom it could be, but whomever it was it did not strike me as a mickey mouse operation.

Even if it was a loner, why filter the perception of the investigation prematurely? Something feels off about that

I’ve read the opposite. There’s no way this could’ve been an amateur given the magnitude of the blast. In fact, those with knowledge of these types of attacks say that it’s unusual for a such an explosive device to get made without law enforcement’s knowledge.

That's good to know. When I was skimming the news I saw such a comment, but it may be wrong. I don't know where it came from so it's lost in the jetstream of info now. I agree that it seems to be orchestrated with some degree of skill.

[Clyde_Style]

So, false flag operation in Nashville or lunatic loner?

Could be either.

It's puzzling no doubt. There are still 4 weeks left in Trump's presidency. If we see a few more of these types of bombings over that time it would be easier for me to lean false flag so Trump could impose martial law. If not I think domestic actors targeting law enforcement. It's probably the latter. They clearly didn't want to harm civilians which in my eyes eliminates radical terrorists.

Well, Trump has zero chance of staying in power by imposing martial law, so I wouldn't bet on it being a false flag op in that sense.

I have no way yet of connecting the dots to something else that is going on, but Trump's behavior surrounding Russian's cyber attack was eggregious and now there's very bizarre talk about splitting up the synergies between the NSA and Cybercom which makes zero sense to undertake with less than a month left in office.

You don't attempt to do something like that with so little time to manage the complex managerial logistics involved so it strikes me as another form of sabotage, similar to putting their plants inside the Pentagon, meant to further destabilize the American IC.

Trump may be leaving office in a state of high treason and if he is then he is going to go for broke. It sounds to me like he wants to put a flunkie in Cybercom's driver seat right before he leaves office, but for what purpose? I suspected Trump of wanting to sell state secrets and this does nothing to disuade me from those scenarios.

It may be completely unrelated, but with Trump everything is worth speculating about considering how willing he has been to compromise America's security.

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[Phish Tank]

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wonder if anyone can dig some dirt on this guy.

Is he a Salena Zito white guy? The guy who you find at those diners?

[thebuzzardman]

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wonder if anyone can dig some dirt on this guy.

Is he a Salena Zito white guy? The guy who you find at those diners?

Trump administration will say sounds like an Iranian name. Let the missiles fly!

[HarthorneWingo]

Did you see the security cam that captured the warning audio?

One thing that feels sketchy to me is reports that authorities think it was an amateur job. That feels like a presumptuous thing for any investigator to leak or say to a reporter if that account is true. For one, it doesn't seem all that amateur to me. There was some real specificity to how it was done and the clear intent to not kill bystanders. I don't have any ideas about the agenda or whom it could be, but whomever it was it did not strike me as a mickey mouse operation.

Even if it was a loner, why filter the perception of the investigation prematurely? Something feels off about that

I’ve read the opposite. There’s no way this could’ve been an amateur given the magnitude of the blast. In fact, those with knowledge of these types of attacks say that it’s unusual for a such an explosive device to get made without law enforcement’s knowledge.

That's good to know. When I was skimming the news I saw such a comment, but it may be wrong. I don't know where it came from so it's lost in the jetstream of info now. I agree that it seems to be orchestrated with some degree of skill.

Most of the information I got was from this former U.S. federal prosecutor who knows about this stuff. He goes through it here. This is the first of like 20+ tweets on it.

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[Clyde_Style]

I’ve read the opposite. There’s no way this could’ve been an amateur given the magnitude of the blast. In fact, those with knowledge of these types of attacks say that it’s unusual for a such an explosive device to get made without law enforcement’s knowledge.

That's good to know. When I was skimming the news I saw such a comment, but it may be wrong. I don't know where it came from so it's lost in the jetstream of info now. I agree that it seems to be orchestrated with some degree of skill.

Most of the information I got was from this former U.S. federal prosecutor who knows about this stuff. He goes through it here. This is the first of like 20+ tweets on it.

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Read it. It was good, but obviously still leads to no conclusions with so little still unknown. That he did posit the possible connection to the cyberattacks which is in line with my softball lob that maybe it is related which would not surprise me at all

I do think the IC may have begun operating on its own accord more aggressively once it was known Trump had lost though official actions are still under his purview

Since Trump was minimizing Russia's hack, it does beg the question of what counter-actions were taken by American agencies thus far

[Dr Positivity]

Possibly a prevented terrorist attack. They found out about it and decided to get everyone out of the way and let it blow up. The audio warning set by the good guys.

[stuporman]

The DCCC actively and openly fights against progressive candidates even endorsing and funding republicans running against them and now the Biden is filling his administration with corporatist centrists and republicans while already backing away from the progressive policies even before he gets in that he said he supported before the election..... yup, garbage azz establishment dems again will reject the widely popular with both party voter policies and will do nothing to help people while shrugging it's not their fault, it's the process that prevents them.

So disgusting and corrupt....and the centrist apologists on this forum will defend them.

You're boring us

Spoken like a true cuckservative.... that's a conservative cucked centrist.

[Clyde_Style]

The DCCC actively and openly fights against progressive candidates even endorsing and funding republicans running against them and now the Biden is filling his administration with corporatist centrists and republicans while already backing away from the progressive policies even before he gets in that he said he supported before the election..... yup, garbage azz establishment dems again will reject the widely popular with both party voter policies and will do nothing to help people while shrugging it's not their fault, it's the process that prevents them.

So disgusting and corrupt....and the centrist apologists on this forum will defend them.

You're boring us

Spoken like a true cuckservative.... that's a conservative cucked centrist.

[thebuzzardman]

I’ve read the opposite. There’s no way this could’ve been an amateur given the magnitude of the blast. In fact, those with knowledge of these types of attacks say that it’s unusual for a such an explosive device to get made without law enforcement’s knowledge.

That's good to know. When I was skimming the news I saw such a comment, but it may be wrong. I don't know where it came from so it's lost in the jetstream of info now. I agree that it seems to be orchestrated with some degree of skill.

Most of the information I got was from this former U.S. federal prosecutor who knows about this stuff. He goes through it here. This is the first of like 20+ tweets on it.

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By the way, I was joking when I said "It's Iranians" but the US has been turning up the screws on Iran, as a conservative "to do" checkbox (not that USA policy in general isn't fairly bellicose to Iran), and IMHO, the Trump administration seems more beholden to Israel's right of center/Netanyahu, aligning Arab states with Israel to strategically surround Iran. Again, not exactly new in the mid-east, as Israel/SA have had this arrangement with the US for a while, but it's picked up recently over the last couple of years. Some will say "Oh, this is Trump solving the Israel/Arab issue" but I see it as strategic posturing between the big dogs of the mid east - Israel/SA vs Iran.

Anyway, though Occam's razor tends to make me think it's a cook, Iran could be sending a message that the Trump admin might want to think twice before unleashing a big ol' cruise missile strike against Iran on the way out the door.

Just a theory.
Could be white supremacists again, a lone nut, lots of things.

[HarthorneWingo]

That's good to know. When I was skimming the news I saw such a comment, but it may be wrong. I don't know where it came from so it's lost in the jetstream of info now. I agree that it seems to be orchestrated with some degree of skill.

Most of the information I got was from this former U.S. federal prosecutor who knows about this stuff. He goes through it here. This is the first of like 20+ tweets on it.

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By the way, I was joking when I said "It's Iranians" but the US has been turning up the screws on Iran, as a conservative "to do" checkbox (not that USA policy in general isn't fairly bellicose to Iran), and IMHO, the Trump administration seems more beholden to Israel's right of center/Netanyahu, aligning Arab states with Israel to strategically surround Iran. Again, not exactly new in the mid-east, as Israel/SA have had this arrangement with the US for a while, but it's picked up recently over the last couple of years. Some will say "Oh, this is Trump solving the Israel/Arab issue" but I see it as strategic posturing between the big dogs of the mid east - Israel/SA vs Iran.

Anyway, though Occam's razor tends to make me think it's a cook, Iran could be sending a message that the Trump admin might want to think twice before unleashing a big ol' cruise missile strike against Iran on the way out the door.

Just a theory.
Could be white supremacists again, a lone nut, lots of things.

But that's been like forever (or seems like it). Anyhow, I don't think Iran would be stupid enough to orchestrate this attack. Trump is looking for any excuse to bomb the shyt of Iran.

As long as we're spitballing, I'm going with Russia. It wants to sow more chaos while not incurring mass casualties. Iran or an Arab terrorist group would not have warned us about the bomb ahead of time. They would've wanted casualties.

You should read through that guy's tweets because he goes through the entire analysis and excludes certain groups for specific reasons.

I also read that part of Snowden's whistleblowing was on ATT and how it had cooperated more than anyone in conspiring with the NSA to violate Americans' privacy rights with their surveillance of us. Is that a connection to the bombing since it took out ATT's capabilities in that area?

[HarthorneWingo]

You're boring us

Spoken like a true cuckservative.... that's a conservative cucked centrist.

You two have excellent comedic timing.

[Clyde_Style]

Spoken like a true cuckservative.... that's a conservative cucked centrist.

You two have excellent comedic timing.

[spree2kawhi]

So the Democrats sneakily made the stimulus bill unanimous consent, expecting that it wouldn't pass when at least one GOP member said no to it. All so they can then blame the Republicans for not passing it:

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Hold on!

You're going to keep posting after you declared the turning point was about to happen when it obviously wasn't?

Do you like continually smearing egg on your face?

I will admit I was misled by an article making it seem like Pence had some sort of deadline on Dec 23rd to tell the legislatures to call special sessions.

I do not know how Trump will get to the victory line but I am confident he is in control. And is overall more patient than me.

Don't you realize you're drowning in all those crazy theories? You could just stop twisting reality. It doesn't make sense.

[Dr Positivity]

Hold on!

You're going to keep posting after you declared the turning point was about to happen when it obviously wasn't?

Do you like continually smearing egg on your face?

I will admit I was misled by an article making it seem like Pence had some sort of deadline on Dec 23rd to tell the legislatures to call special sessions.

I do not know how Trump will get to the victory line but I am confident he is in control. And is overall more patient than me.

Don't you realize you're drowning in all those crazy theories? You could just stop twisting reality. It doesn't make sense.

Trump has a variety of ways he could go, the Supreme Court, DOJ, military, legislature, etc, therefore it's hard to play guessing game which one he uses. Right now I am leaning towards him winning in the Supreme Court.

What I do know is that if the election is rigged (which I'm extremely confident it is), it's very unlikely the Democrats would get away with it. Because Trump predicted they would do it, it would be a huge failure if he didn't come up with a successful plan to stop it.

[spree2kawhi]

I will admit I was misled by an article making it seem like Pence had some sort of deadline on Dec 23rd to tell the legislatures to call special sessions.

I do not know how Trump will get to the victory line but I am confident he is in control. And is overall more patient than me.

Don't you realize you're drowning in all those crazy theories? You could just stop twisting reality. It doesn't make sense.

Trump has a variety of ways he could go, the Supreme Court, DOJ, military, legislature, etc, therefore it's hard to play guessing game which one he uses. Right now I am leaning towards him winning in the Supreme Court.

What I do know is that if the election is rigged (which I'm extremely confident it is), it's very unlikely the Democrats would get away with it. Because Trump predicted they would do it, it would be a huge failure if he didn't come up with a successful plan to stop it.

Get a life man. Please promise that once Trump is out of office, you'll spare us that dogsht. I've heard too much of that nonsense.

Try to turn the corner before it's too late. You're drifting.

[Pointgod]

The DCCC actively and openly fights against progressive candidates even endorsing and funding republicans running against them and now the Biden is filling his administration with corporatist centrists and republicans while already backing away from the progressive policies even before he gets in that he said he supported before the election..... yup, garbage azz establishment dems again will reject the widely popular with both party voter policies and will do nothing to help people while shrugging it's not their fault, it's the process that prevents them.

So disgusting and corrupt....and the centrist apologists on this forum will defend them.

You're boring us

I mean I don’t even care at this point. All that matters is that Biden beat Trump. Thousands of lives will be saved, millions of people affected for the better now that the malignant cancer in the Whitehouse is gone. Let people like stuporman and Wingo vent, I don’t care enough to waste time constantly correcting misinformed opinions.

[K_ick_God]

Forget about ideology or conspiracies, it’s totally evident that Trump would never be able to wait on revealing any information or pursuing any strategy.

He would tweet about whatever he was privy to that day lol.

If you can’t see that he has no strategic patience or ability to execute a slow plan, I really don’t know what to tell you.

He has nada. He is not capable of sitting on anything.

[Clyde_Style]

Forget about ideology or conspiracies, it’s totally evident that Trump would never be able to wait on revealing any information or pursuing any strategy.

He would tweet about whatever he was privy to that day lol.

If you can’t see that he has no strategic patience or ability to execute a slow plan, I really don’t know what to tell you.

He has nada. He is not capable of sitting on anything.

He's a life long silver spoon fukupp. Him being president means close to half of America believes a dimwitted reality TV host with no managerial abilities is qualified to be in the most important position on the planet. That he got into the White House only proves what a pathetic country we've become

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