Is RJ Barrett a beast?

Woodsanity · Post #1881 » by **Woodsanity** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:01 pm

Lord Commander wrote:I was pro RJ and previously voted No, but am now firmly in the Bust Camp!! RJ sucks!! Praying they can unload his scrub ass. This is what you do fresh of a huge contract signing, and half-way decent season? come on bruh.

I've been saying he wasn't good for ages and I really really wish I was wrong on that. Now he is a toxic contract thats hard to get rid of. :cry:

Also I always heard that he was a "hard worker" but now I am hearing that he was slacking off in the summer.

Post #1882 » by **duetta** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:01 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Hypothetical question. If we trade RJ to the Mavs for the 10th pick, would the Mavs still need to convey a pick to us next year as part of the KP trade?

Yes, unless we are also stipulating that we are relinquishing our rights to that pick as part of the trade.

Meat · Post #1883 » by **Meat** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:17 pm

rajajackal wrote:
Meat wrote:
Lord Commander wrote:How do we get rid of him? Never thought I'd see the day when I valued JHart more than RJ.

all RJ has to do is play JUST like hart and his higher talent level would make him a really good player

does he have a higher talent level? josh hart finishes fast breaks all the time. rj gets stuffed. josh won a ring in college, rj didn't. etc

come on he clearly is, that's where the frustration is. He should be better than this, he has tools

Woodsanity · Post #1884 » by **Woodsanity** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:19 pm

Right now unless RJ improves drastically I see his good case scenario as a solid 6th man. He has barely improved at all after all these years....

rajajackal · Post #1885 » by **rajajackal** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 pm

Meat wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
Meat wrote:all RJ has to do is play JUST like hart and his higher talent level would make him a really good player

does he have a higher talent level? josh hart finishes fast breaks all the time. rj gets stuffed. josh won a ring in college, rj didn't. etc

come on he clearly is, that's where the frustration is. He should be better than this, he has tools

idk hart seems to move around and handle the ball much better than rj. rj has a big bully frame, but that's build not talent

strummer · Post #1886 » by **strummer** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:35 pm

Meat wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
Meat wrote:all RJ has to do is play JUST like hart and his higher talent level would make him a really good player

does he have a higher talent level? josh hart finishes fast breaks all the time. rj gets stuffed. josh won a ring in college, rj didn't. etc

come on he clearly is, that's where the frustration is. He should be better than this, he has tools

Is it clear? Would you consider RJ to be above average compared to other NBA starters in his position for:

Finishing at the rim?
3 pt shooting?
Mid-range shooting?
Athleticism?
Ball-handling?
Vision/passing?
One-on-one shot creation?
Defense?
Rebounding?

Meat · Post #1887 » by **Meat** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:41 pm

strummer wrote:
Meat wrote:
rajajackal wrote:does he have a higher talent level? josh hart finishes fast breaks all the time. rj gets stuffed. josh won a ring in college, rj didn't. etc

come on he clearly is, that's where the frustration is. He should be better than this, he has tools

Is it clear? Would you consider RJ to be above average compared to other NBA starters in his position for:

Finishing at the rim?
3 pt shooting?
Mid-range shooting?
Athleticism?
Ball-handling?
Vision/passing?
One-on-one shot creation?
Defense?
Rebounding?

we're talking unrealized talent, not actual production.

strummer · Post #1888 » by **strummer** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:44 pm

Meat wrote:
strummer wrote:
Meat wrote:
come on he clearly is, that's where the frustration is. He should be better than this, he has tools

Is it clear? Would you consider RJ to be above average compared to other NBA starters in his position for:

Finishing at the rim?
3 pt shooting?
Mid-range shooting?
Athleticism?
Ball-handling?
Vision/passing?
One-on-one shot creation?
Defense?
Rebounding?

we're talking unrealized talent, not actual production.

Fair enough. Four years in, it is definitely unrealized.

8516knicks · Post #1889 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:46 pm

Woodsanity wrote:Right now unless RJ improves drastically I see his good case scenario as a solid 6th man. He has barely improved at all after all these years....

Our 6 & 7th men this year are IQ and Josh. Both are top of the league in that spot. RJ is not near either in D or O. Not in the same zip code. Not to mention hustle (dare I say Heart)? :nod:

Maybe he'd be a good 6th man on Orlando. He's okay, just not what u expect in a #3 pick in his 3rd/4th year.

Woodsanity · Post #1890 » by **Woodsanity** » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:50 pm

8516knicks wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:Right now unless RJ improves drastically I see his good case scenario as a solid 6th man. He has barely improved at all after all these years....

Our 6 & 7th men this year are IQ and Josh. Both are top of the league in that spot. RJ is not near either in D or O. Not in the same zip code. Not to mention hustle (dare I say Heart)? Maybe he'd be a good 6th man on Orlando. He's okay, just not what u expect in a #3 pick in his 3rd/4th year.

Thats why I said "good case scenario". He isn't even at that level yet. Agreed right now he is like our 7th or 8th best player....

Dream scenario is somehow he completely turns things around but thats doubtful. I pretty much loss most hope for him at this point and I question his so called "work ethic". I am starting to think all those videos he puts out are bogus and he doesn't try as hard as he makes people think he does.

knickabocker88 · Post #1891 » by **knickabocker88** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:44 am

Team needs a real talent evaluator, one for drafting the kid and two for making him one highest paid Knicks of all time.

He plays like he wears Timbs on the court.

Meat · Post #1892 » by **Meat** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:49 am

knickabocker88 wrote:Team needs a real talent evaluator, one for drafting the kid and two for making him one highest paid Knicks of all time.

He plays like he wears Timbs on the court.

i dont know how old you are but if you remember hooping in ewings or like shaqnosis... thats rj

adjacent2bench · Post #1893 » by **adjacent2bench** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:51 am

3toheadmelo · Post #1894 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:34 am

Read on Twitter

DaGawd · Post #1895 » by **DaGawd** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:00 am

you wouldn’t even be able to trade him for positive value right now

3toheadmelo · Post #1896 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:11 am

DaGawd wrote:you wouldn’t even be able to trade him for positive value right now

maybe we should trade him for batum and picks :lol:

3toheadmelo · Post #1897 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:17 pm

Read on Twitter

Phish Tank · Post #1898 » by **Phish Tank** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:29 pm

until Friday, RJ should be locked inside the MSG practice facility on a strict juice diet. No Doordash, no nothing.

8516knicks · Post #1899 » by **8516knicks** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:43 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah, that play REALLY stood out. Felt like he'd backtrack over halfcourt back to the Knick's basket and into the locker room if he could have! :banghead:

Along with Garland's paralyzing IQ play. the worst kind of highlight reel.

Buttah304 · Post #1900 » by **Buttah304** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:58 pm

RJ revving his engine to make an entry level move

Is RJ Barrett a bust?