2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it?

[thebuzzardman]

I’m rooting for the Knicks. They should go hard after the underrated, under the radar stars out there. I highly doubt KD, Kyrie or Kawhi would wanna join this dysfunctional organization with a creepy owner. This is the perception of the Knicks from everyone atm.

Knicks should target Diangelo Russel and Tobias Harris with their cap space. It’ll be a positive step towards making the playoffs again.

Says an individual who named himself after Wiggins.

Was BennettNation already taken?

[F N 11]

Screamin A saying Kyrie will go wherever KD wants to go

Ive been waiting lol

[F N 11]

Why is Max wearing sunglasses? He looks like a douche.

These days you have to have an image and a route that people know you by. Max is now known as a knick hater who spews crazy chit out there and wears sunglasses.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks vs Nets

Breakdown of assets:

Nets:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Joe Harris
Jarret Allen
Rodions Kurucs
Taurean Prince
27th Pick
31st Pick
All Future Draft Picks less 2020 1st Rounder (Top 14 Protected)
D'Angelo Russel Cap Hold of $21mil.

$47mil in Cap Space ($68mil w/o Russel)

Knicks:
Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
Damyean Dotson
Alonzo Trier
3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future Draft Picks
Mavs 2021 Unprotected
Mavs 2023 1st Rounder Top 10 Protected

$71mil in Cap Space

For arguments sake lets say:
Mitchell Robinson >> Jarret Allen
DSJ << Dinwiddie
Knox = Lavert
Dotson = Taurean Prince
Trier < Joe Harris
Frank = Kurucs

Pretty much a wash. You could argue either way but not so far off

Now whats remaining

3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future 1st
Mavs 2021
Mavs 2023

vs.

27th
31st
All Future 1st Less 2020 Pick

That's not even close.
Russell's cap hold is an asset, but that means you are keeping and not getting 2 max players.
Knicks are positioned far more greatly to maximize on the talent put around the 2 max players then the Nets are.
Nets are going to be locked out of trading future picks until 2022.
Knicks can go out and get real role players with the future Mavs picks.
Remember Tobias Harris (borderline allstar) was just traded for the Miami unprotected pick midseason. Knicks have the ammo to make a similar move to improve the roster with the 2max players

I think no question I'd rather be in the Knicks position.

Thank you

[DowNY]

Watch on YouTube

“I have a source that tells me Kyrie will try to persuade Kevin Durant.....now it’s NOT going to work but”

[Jeffrey]

Watch on YouTube

“I have a source that tells me Kyrie will try to persuade Kevin Durant.....now it’s NOT going to work but”

You think during the All-Star, KI was persuading KD to go to the Nets all this time?

[Context]

Knicks vs Nets

Breakdown of assets:

Nets:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Joe Harris
Jarret Allen
Rodions Kurucs
Taurean Prince
27th Pick
31st Pick
All Future Draft Picks less 2020 1st Rounder (Top 14 Protected)
D'Angelo Russel Cap Hold of $21mil.

$47mil in Cap Space ($68mil w/o Russel)

Knicks:
Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
Damyean Dotson
Alonzo Trier
3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future Draft Picks
Mavs 2021 Unprotected
Mavs 2023 1st Rounder Top 10 Protected

$71mil in Cap Space

For arguments sake lets say:
Mitchell Robinson >> Jarret Allen
DSJ << Dinwiddie
Knox = Lavert
Dotson = Taurean Prince
Trier < Joe Harris
Frank = Kurucs

Pretty much a wash. You could argue either way but not so far off

Now whats remaining

3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future 1st
Mavs 2021
Mavs 2023

vs.

27th
31st
All Future 1st Less 2020 Pick

That's not even close.
Russell's cap hold is an asset, but that means you are keeping and not getting 2 max players.
Knicks are positioned far more greatly to maximize on the talent put around the 2 max players then the Nets are.
Nets are going to be locked out of trading future picks until 2022.
Knicks can go out and get real role players with the future Mavs picks.
Remember Tobias Harris (borderline allstar) was just traded for the Miami unprotected pick midseason. Knicks have the ammo to make a similar move to improve the roster with the 2max players

I think no question I'd rather be in the Knicks position.

Add in the fact that the "nets" just got here- until they prove otherwise (with consistency) they are- our little "new" stepbrother (:wink: -to the delusional net fans and knick haters)

[dakomish23]

Knicks vs Nets

Breakdown of assets:

Nets:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Joe Harris
Jarret Allen
Rodions Kurucs
Taurean Prince
27th Pick
31st Pick
All Future Draft Picks less 2020 1st Rounder (Top 14 Protected)
D'Angelo Russel Cap Hold of $21mil.

$47mil in Cap Space ($68mil w/o Russel)

Knicks:
Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
Damyean Dotson
Alonzo Trier
3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future Draft Picks
Mavs 2021 Unprotected
Mavs 2023 1st Rounder Top 10 Protected

$71mil in Cap Space

For arguments sake lets say:
Mitchell Robinson >> Jarret Allen
DSJ << Dinwiddie
Knox = Lavert
Dotson = Taurean Prince
Trier < Joe Harris
Frank = Kurucs

Pretty much a wash. You could argue either way but not so far off

Now whats remaining

3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future 1st
Mavs 2021
Mavs 2023

vs.

27th
31st
All Future 1st Less 2020 Pick

That's not even close.
Russell's cap hold is an asset, but that means you are keeping and not getting 2 max players.
Knicks are positioned far more greatly to maximize on the talent put around the 2 max players then the Nets are.
Nets are going to be locked out of trading future picks until 2022.
Knicks can go out and get real role players with the future Mavs picks.
Remember Tobias Harris (borderline allstar) was just traded for the Miami unprotected pick midseason. Knicks have the ammo to make a similar move to improve the roster with the 2max players

I think no question I'd rather be in the Knicks position.

Thank you

Knox < LeVert
Frank < Kurocs

[dakomish23]

I’m rooting for the Knicks. They should go hard after the underrated, under the radar stars out there. I highly doubt KD, Kyrie or Kawhi would wanna join this dysfunctional organization with a creepy owner. This is the perception of the Knicks from everyone atm.

Knicks should target Diangelo Russel and Tobias Harris with their cap space. It’ll be a positive step towards making the playoffs again.

Says an individual who named himself after Wiggins.

Was BennettNation already taken?

I’m def taking that name

[DowNY]

Chris Mannix definitely a Celtic homer

[DowNY]

Watch on YouTube

“I have a source that tells me Kyrie will try to persuade Kevin Durant.....now it’s NOT going to work but”

You think during the All-Star, KI was persuading KD to go to the Nets all this time?

Not sure if the Nets were on Kyrie’s mind then.
Nets had D’Angelo at the All-star game & probably weren’t think Irving either.

[F N 11]

Idc what anybody say

Mitch >Allen and Harris

[G_K_F]

Knicks vs Nets

Breakdown of assets:

Nets:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Joe Harris
Jarret Allen
Rodions Kurucs
Taurean Prince
27th Pick
31st Pick
All Future Draft Picks less 2020 1st Rounder (Top 14 Protected)
D'Angelo Russel Cap Hold of $21mil.

$47mil in Cap Space ($68mil w/o Russel)

Knicks:
Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
Damyean Dotson
Alonzo Trier
3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future Draft Picks
Mavs 2021 Unprotected
Mavs 2023 1st Rounder Top 10 Protected

$71mil in Cap Space

For arguments sake lets say:
Mitchell Robinson >> Jarret Allen
DSJ << Dinwiddie
Knox = Lavert
Dotson = Taurean Prince
Trier < Joe Harris
Frank = Kurucs

Pretty much a wash. You could argue either way but not so far off

Now whats remaining

3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future 1st
Mavs 2021
Mavs 2023

vs.

27th
31st
All Future 1st Less 2020 Pick

That's not even close.
Russell's cap hold is an asset, but that means you are keeping and not getting 2 max players.
Knicks are positioned far more greatly to maximize on the talent put around the 2 max players then the Nets are.
Nets are going to be locked out of trading future picks until 2022.
Knicks can go out and get real role players with the future Mavs picks.
Remember Tobias Harris (borderline allstar) was just traded for the Miami unprotected pick midseason. Knicks have the ammo to make a similar move to improve the roster with the 2max players

I think no question I'd rather be in the Knicks position.

Thank you

Knox < LeVert
Frank < Kurocs

Yeah I’m not sure where Knox = Levert came from when Knox has been hot garbage. Same for Frank.

[god shammgod]

you know the nets don't matter to the public, because whenever they talk about a nets story they spend most of the time talking about how it affects the knicks. the comments on twitter are all about the knicks too. the few nets fans you see comment mostly prefer dlo to kyrie.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks vs Nets

Breakdown of assets:

Nets:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Joe Harris
Jarret Allen
Rodions Kurucs
Taurean Prince
27th Pick
31st Pick
All Future Draft Picks less 2020 1st Rounder (Top 14 Protected)
D'Angelo Russel Cap Hold of $21mil.

$47mil in Cap Space ($68mil w/o Russel)

Knicks:
Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson
Dennis Smith Jr.
Frank Ntilikina
Damyean Dotson
Alonzo Trier
3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future Draft Picks
Mavs 2021 Unprotected
Mavs 2023 1st Rounder Top 10 Protected

$71mil in Cap Space

For arguments sake lets say:
Mitchell Robinson >> Jarret Allen
DSJ << Dinwiddie
Knox = Lavert
Dotson = Taurean Prince
Trier < Joe Harris
Frank = Kurucs

Pretty much a wash. You could argue either way but not so far off

Now whats remaining

3rd Pick
55th Pick
All Future 1st
Mavs 2021
Mavs 2023

vs.

27th
31st
All Future 1st Less 2020 Pick

That's not even close.
Russell's cap hold is an asset, but that means you are keeping and not getting 2 max players.
Knicks are positioned far more greatly to maximize on the talent put around the 2 max players then the Nets are.
Nets are going to be locked out of trading future picks until 2022.
Knicks can go out and get real role players with the future Mavs picks.
Remember Tobias Harris (borderline allstar) was just traded for the Miami unprotected pick midseason. Knicks have the ammo to make a similar move to improve the roster with the 2max players

I think no question I'd rather be in the Knicks position.

Thank you

Knox < LeVert
Frank < Kurocs

You love you some Nets.

In any event, even if the above is true, Lavert and Kurocs aren't THAT much better. I also stand by previous statements about the Nyets vs the Knicks. The Nets players are a year or two further along in development and the Nets are a year further into the rebuild.

All the Knicks young players don't suck. They'll continue to get better. They are, on the whole, younger than the Nets players.

The Nets aren't any kind of particular "destination", at least not any more than the Knicks, who aren't exactly one either.

[King of Canada]

you know the nets don't matter to the public, because whenever they talk about a nets story they spend most of the time talking about how it affects the knicks. the comments on twitter are all about the knicks too. the few nets fans you see comment mostly prefer dlo to kyrie.

As they should too. I'd take a guy that carried your team for less money over a guy with some injuries and that was a problem on their winning team for more money.

[thebuzzardman]

Thank you

Knox < LeVert
Frank < Kurocs

Yeah I’m not sure where Knox = Levert came from when Knox has been hot garbage. Same for Frank.

Larvet is a better player now, and ultimately may wind up as the better player, but him being 4 or 5 years older than Knox matters too.

Knox was decent enough for a 19 year old rookie.
Frank has obvious warts but is already one of the better perimeter defenders in the league.

I get fans on here LOVE to sh*t on the Knicks young players, but lets try not to do it while pumping up every asset the Nets have, ok?

[taj2133]

Read on Twitter

[Richard4444]

Lance Thomas must be on any AD package... Let them pay the guaranteed money while we save at least two youngsters...

Knox, Barrett, Dotson, Lance, Jenkins, Dallas two picks and one of our own pick for AD

Smith / Ntilikina
D.Green / Trier
Leonard / Ennis
Durant / Carmelo
Davis / Robinson

First Barret only counts as salary after 30 days of his signing. So you could not make this trade before august. And if were possible, you have to realize we would have used more than 54M of Cap Space - Davis (27M), Dennis (4,5M), Frank (5M), Trier (3,5M) and Mitch (1,5M), Noah (6,5M) + 6,3M (incomplete roster charges). That would leave us with less than 55M to hit FA. We need 70M to Max Durant and Leonard.

If we wait to do this trade in August. We would use about 46,5M of Cap Space: Dennis (4,5M), Frank (5M), Knox (4,5M) Trier (3,5M), Dotson (1,5M), Mitch (1,5M), Noah (6,5M), Lance (7M), Jenkins (2M), Barret (7,8M) ,2,7M (incomplete roster charge). It would leave us with 61,5M to Max Durant and Leonard. We need 70M.

Thus using Lance is not an option.

Moreover, if we want to extend Davis right away we cant waive his trade kicker, increasing his salary for mathing purposes.

[newyorker4ever]

Sign Kawhi, Kd, Beverly to MLE

Trade Barrett, Knox, DSJ, Trier, Dotson, 2 picks for AD

Bev
Kawhi
KD
AD
Mitch

Ooooo my

If I were to draw up a million scenarios for this offseason, I think this would be my best case scenario

Anyone that wouldn't absolutely love us ending up with that as our starting lineup is an absolute moron. Unfortunately that's probably not reality.