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Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD

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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1901 » by drekwins » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:30 am

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With Durant coming off Achilles tendon surgery, one NBA executive and one Achilles specialist said they believe long-term compensation should rise as a stronger consideration. Durant will be 32 when he debuts for his new/old team — in 2020-21.

A leading Achilles expert, Dr. Anish Kadakia, of Northwestern University, has reviewed studies showing 85 percent of NBA players who suffer Achilles tendon ruptures don’t last more than two seasons after their return.

According to Kadakia, 68 percent return and 32 percent never play again. Further, it takes until the second season back for the player to return to his normal ability, taking into consideration “aged matched controls,” he said.


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keep in mind, most of the guys who have done it were at or near retirement age.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1902 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:31 am

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Kemba was probably that one dude that grew up in the Bronx but was a Celtics fan growing up.

He went to school at Uconn. People out there are 50/50 New York or Boston fans. So hes prob used to Celtics fans cheering for him.

So he is used to being called the N-word by his own fans you're saying
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1903 » by DOT » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:31 am

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But for that to happen, he has to dramatically improve his jumper.


He's a career 30.5% shooter from behind the arc which is actually what RJ averaged at Duke from the 3 point line.

If he gets his % up to 35 %- a 4.5% increase from his career average, he'll be extremely valuable. That's not a dramatic or unrealistic expectation.


Totally agree. A lot of people think you need to shoot 38-40% plus in order to be an asset offensively. It's really closer to 35%. If that guy is an elite defender, can handle the ball, can dish it and is coachable... that's a player. That's essentially a PG version of Danny Green.

He's really only a plus as a handler and passer from the SG spot. For PGs, he's pretty bad. Even in the open gym, he looks kinda sluggish and methodical compared to what you want from a PG. You move him to SG though, and he's at least not terrible in terms of handling and vision

I think 35% is the floor for a player like him, you really want it to be more in the 37, 38% range. But if he does that, he should have a long, solid career
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1904 » by DowNY » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:33 am

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Kemba was probably that one dude that grew up in the Bronx but was a Celtics fan growing up.

It’s wild. He literally was a Knick fan, at least through jr high & high school.
I vividly remember barbers at the barbershop talking about the Knicks trading for T-Mac at the time & Kemba was there too hoping Lebron would sign with the Knicks.
Meanwhile, one of the barbers were trying to be Kemba’s agent :lol: looking up his future draft stock.

I just think he doesn’t want the environment and free loading people around him. That or feelings just change.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1905 » by jermsknicks » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:34 am

HerSports85 wrote::D The French Prince. You can hear Fiz in the background



Still got some hesitation on that jumper....keep working til it becomes natural!
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1906 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:35 am

Knicks may value Frank more than we were told.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1907 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:35 am

DowNY wrote:
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Kemba was probably that one dude that grew up in the Bronx but was a Celtics fan growing up.

It’s wild. He literally was a Knick fan, at least through jr high & high school.
I vividly remember barbers at the barbershop talking about the Knicks trading for T-Mac at the time & Kemba was there too hoping Lebron would sign with the Knicks.
Meanwhile, one of the barbers were trying to be Kemba’s agent :lol: looking up his future draft stock.

I just think he doesn’t want the environment and free loading people around him. That or feelings just change.

Yeah, being home with all that money ain't always a good thing. Too much distraction.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1908 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:35 am

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Lol you really made a gif of his misses :lol:

His shot lookin good tho. I’m hype

He still got a ways to go. That hitch is still there.

I don’t see it. His shot looks much better to me
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1909 » by GEOLINK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:36 am

Of course there's another super team forming... But it's on the west coast.

Nice going, NBA.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1910 » by HerSports85 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:36 am

KnicksGod wrote:Knicks may value Frank more than we were told.



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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1911 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:37 am

DSJ just posted himself shooting 3's on his ig story. unfortunately, the hitch is still there
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1912 » by stuporman » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:37 am

duetta wrote:
stuporman wrote:If Frank can be just average on O coupled with his elite D it makes him a keeper, a very valuable keeper.


But for that to happen, he has to dramatically improve his jumper.


Ya think? :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1913 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:38 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Lol you really made a gif of his misses :lol:

His shot lookin good tho. I’m hype

He still got a ways to go. That hitch is still there.

I don’t see it. His shot looks much better to me


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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1914 » by xNewYorkMadex » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:39 am

Kemba to Boston is a signing no one expected at all dating back to just last week.
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Post#1915 » by F N 11 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:40 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1916 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:41 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Lol you really made a gif of his misses :lol:

His shot lookin good tho. I’m hype

He still got a ways to go. That hitch is still there.

I don’t see it. His shot looks much better to me


I still see that hitch, I'm hoping he can get become a knockdown 3PT shooter, because his potential is really high
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1917 » by drekwins » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:41 am

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He's a career 30.5% shooter from behind the arc which is actually what RJ averaged at Duke from the 3 point line.

If he gets his % up to 35 %- a 4.5% increase from his career average, he'll be extremely valuable. That's not a dramatic or unrealistic expectation.


Totally agree. A lot of people think you need to shoot 38-40% plus in order to be an asset offensively. It's really closer to 35%. If that guy is an elite defender, can handle the ball, can dish it and is coachable... that's a player. That's essentially a PG version of Danny Green.

He's really only a plus as a handler and passer from the SG spot. For PGs, he's pretty bad. Even in the open gym, he looks kinda sluggish and methodical compared to what you want from a PG. You move him to SG though, and he's at least not terrible in terms of handling and vision

I think 35% is the floor for a player like him, you really want it to be more in the 37, 38% range. But if he does that, he should have a long, solid career


I truly believe that if his shot comes around, it's going to open up the rest of his game. There's a lot of PG's who don't have John Walls or Derrick Roses quickness/speed. Billups, Conley, Lowry... heck even Steph's speed was and is questionable. Billups is a good guy to look at because his shot really wasn't working for him either his first 3 years. He also didn't average many assists early - less than 4 per game for his first 4 years. Then, he gained confidence, his shot became very good and it opened up everything. You don't have to possess elite quickness. You just have to make the defense guard you and go over the screen.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1918 » by HerSports85 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:43 am

Still a lot of time to go but DSJR jumper still need work. Wasn’t impressed with the video at all. This why I been saying he need to be working as hard as the other kids.

RJ has completely changed his form this summer and it looks WET!!
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1919 » by 21 Hussle » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:44 am

Kemba is from the Bronx, I can't believe he's even considering joining the Celtics.
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Re: Offseason Thread: KD opts out...To KD or not to KD 

Post#1920 » by Cookies4Life » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:45 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
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AllanHoustonFan wrote:He still got a ways to go. That hitch is still there.

I don’t see it. His shot looks much better to me


I still see that hitch, I'm hoping he can get become a knockdown 3PT shooter, because his potential is really high


I think his FT % is more important since he can get to the paint at will and essentially live at the FT line.

I think a decent amount of it is mental and also that hitch he has/had in his shot. He did average over 70% from the line at NC state; usually players don't trend downward in FT% when they turn pro.

If he can get his FT shooting to around 75% it could really help his overall numbers. It looked like he was a bit timid to get to the paint at times and make contact with opposing defenders because of his FT woes.

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