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Pistons choking down the stretch. I mean what did we expect
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Capn'O wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Knox, Burks, and gallo having big games to make it tight with the Cavs. Once a Knick, always a Knick
Future Knick Monte Morris a +16 too.
Almost Knick Jaden Ivey just blew it by fouling Mitchell.
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omerome wrote:god shammgod wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/274494/Tyrese-Haliburton-Calls-Games-Played-Threshold-For-Awards-A-Stupid-Rule
I think it's a) ridiculous to think these guys are so entitled to think that availability isn't an important ability and b) that the people who make these awards would be allowing someone who plays less than 2/3 the season to compete for an award to begin with.
It does suck for Embiid who is having perhaps his most dominant year yet, but is on track to play about 55 games, to not have a shot at the awards. However, end of the day, he i missing 20+ games which is going to be tagging his team with 10+ losses. Meanwhile Jokic may be having a less impressive overall season, but he seems to be playing.
they're mad because the awards are tied to salaries. so basically if a guy has an injury he can be financially impacted for years to come. it isn't really fair.
That sounds like something the NBPA should have negotiated then.
How isn't it far though? Their salaries are guaranteed. They get paid when they are on or off the court. They only don't get a bonus when they don't meet a very fair criteria which is to show up and perform.
he doesn't not want to show up to perform. he got hurt. he's not just taking games off. and because he's a younger player he wasn't good enough to make an all-nba team until this year. now he won't be eligible to make one and he'll lose money.
The facts are these:
Haliburton signed a five-year max contract last offseason that goes into effect next season. It's worth a base $204.5 million, but will go up to more than $245 million if he makes an All-NBA roster in the last year of his rookie deal, which is this season.
On Jan. 8, Haliburton slipped and injured his hamstring, causing him to miss all but one game since. He returned Tuesday in a 129-124 loss to the Boston Celtics, but has now missed 13 games this season. He also played only 13 minutes in the game he got injured.
Before this season, the NBA passed new rules to make players ineligible for awards if they don't play at least 20 minutes in at least 65 games during the regular season.
Add all that up and what does it spell?
One of the NBA's burgeoning superstars could lose out on more than $40 million because he sustained an injury that caused him to miss a few weeks in January and was subsequently deemed ineligible due to rules designed to stop, say, Kyrie Irving from sitting out half of a back-to-back.
https://sports.yahoo.com/tyrese-haliburton-is-4-missed-games-away-from-losing-40-million-due-to-nbas-stupid-rule-051135930.html
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Can’t wait to take the 9th pick from Detroit in like 2 years.
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Bum ass pistons. Had the lead most of the 4th quarter
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nykballa2k4 wrote:omerome wrote:god shammgod wrote:
they're mad because the awards are tied to salaries. so basically if a guy has an injury he can be financially impacted for years to come. it isn't really fair.
That sounds like something the NBPA should have negotiated then.
How isn't it far though? Their salaries are guaranteed. They get paid when they are on or off the court. They only don't get a bonus when they don't meet a very fair criteria which is to show up and perform.
certain awards trigger higher salaries. In Hali's case if he wins certain awards he makes an extra 40M over the life of his contract.
still, I like that the NBA has basically codified that you have to have a certain attendance in order to get an award. It sucks that Randle is going to miss out on an all-NBA team despite an amazing year because of a dirty play by a dirty team. It would suck if that injury/lack of accolade harms his salary and earnings. Ultimately - If randle only plays 55 games because of this injury - there are probably guys who played 70+ games who probably deserve it more than he does this particular season. Not through his fault, but due to how that sort of thing goes.
We all love paid time off, but imagine if you pay to see Taylor Swift and instead she feels a little weary or whatever and you get her backup. Not what you paid the 500 bucks for. The guys who have real injuries are paying for a) the guys who fake it/rest and b) the award givers who give these things to part-time players.
Players likely advocated to get bonuses for these awards. I doubt it was the GM's idea to take away money from non-award winners etc. This is quite a foot-in-door approach to top players just being greedy.
At the end of the day, availability is better than ability. If they don't or can't show up on a regular basis, which is what...80% of the time, why do they think they should reap the extra bonuses?
65/82 games is enough leeway to account for legit injuries. If they want to also use it for rest days, then they should realize it can effect their bottom-line. Because like you said, people buy tickets to see their favorite players and support their team. Not to watch them in street clothes or their bench replacement.
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Good god did McGee get cursed by an old gypsy woman
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Sabonis is so absurdly overrated
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Halliburton should be mad at all the players before him that sat out nationally televised games forcing the nba make this rule. It stinks that it wasn’t one of the habitual load management guys that ended up getting hurt by this but if the league doesn’t pretend that the regular season is important, no one is going to want to give them the cash so guys like him can keep getting 200 million dollar contracts.
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god shammgod wrote:omerome wrote:god shammgod wrote:
they're mad because the awards are tied to salaries. so basically if a guy has an injury he can be financially impacted for years to come. it isn't really fair.
That sounds like something the NBPA should have negotiated then.
How isn't it far though? Their salaries are guaranteed. They get paid when they are on or off the court. They only don't get a bonus when they don't meet a very fair criteria which is to show up and perform.
he doesn't not want to show up to perform. he got hurt. he's not just taking games off. and because he's a younger player he wasn't good enough to make an all-nba team until this year. now he won't be eligible to make one and he'll lose money.The facts are these:
Haliburton signed a five-year max contract last offseason that goes into effect next season. It's worth a base $204.5 million, but will go up to more than $245 million if he makes an All-NBA roster in the last year of his rookie deal, which is this season.
On Jan. 8, Haliburton slipped and injured his hamstring, causing him to miss all but one game since. He returned Tuesday in a 129-124 loss to the Boston Celtics, but has now missed 13 games this season. He also played only 13 minutes in the game he got injured.
Before this season, the NBA passed new rules to make players ineligible for awards if they don't play at least 20 minutes in at least 65 games during the regular season.
Add all that up and what does it spell?
One of the NBA's burgeoning superstars could lose out on more than $40 million because he sustained an injury that caused him to miss a few weeks in January and was subsequently deemed ineligible due to rules designed to stop, say, Kyrie Irving from sitting out half of a back-to-back.
https://sports.yahoo.com/tyrese-haliburton-is-4-missed-games-away-from-losing-40-million-due-to-nbas-stupid-rule-051135930.html
Sucks for him. Just like it benefits players who get drafted and sit out a year due to injury and then win ROTY in their 2nd season. How do you think those rookies feel that lose out? You're not a rookie anymore. You shouldn't qualify for that award. Just like fan votes keep players like Brunson off the All Star team. Life isn't always fair but, when you don't meet the criteria you don't get diddly.
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This new generation of NBA players really do complain a lot
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Can’t wait to take the 9th pick from Detroit in like 2 years.
It's top 11 protected in 2 years
In 3 years however, it's only top 9 protected. But if it doesn't convey by then (2027), it becomes a single 2nd round pick in 2027.
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
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DOT wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Can’t wait to take the 9th pick from Detroit in like 2 years.
It's top 11 protected in 2 years
In 3 years however, it's only top 9 protected. But if it doesn't convey by then (2027), it becomes a single 2nd round pick in 2027.
Must be the wizards pick that eventually becomes top 8 protected. I thought they both were. Guess not.
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Spree2Houston wrote:This new generation of NBA players really do complain a lot
We glorified the complainers (AI) years ago. This us reaping what we sow.
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
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Jesus. These Nets unis and the court are horrible! So are both teams playing this game.
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Man magic choking ….spurs on a 15-0 run in the 4th
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:DOT wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Can’t wait to take the 9th pick from Detroit in like 2 years.
It's top 11 protected in 2 years
In 3 years however, it's only top 9 protected. But if it doesn't convey by then (2027), it becomes a single 2nd round pick in 2027.
Must be the wizards pick that eventually becomes top 8 protected. I thought they both were. Guess not.
2024 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]
2024 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2024 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
2025 first round draft pick from Milwaukee
Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to New York protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or New York will thereafter be extinguished) (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022]
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Capn'O wrote:I wonder what Paul Reed's feelings are about metal bats.
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Booker hits a corner three then mimics Mikal's head wagging gestures
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.












