HopelessKnick wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:
Exactly---if you figure in the contract angle, the most rational possibility is KAT for 2 2-way players. One frontcourt guy able to get 18points along with good defense and another wing player or playmaker that can defend and put up 12 points or so.
I suggested in that other thread something along the lines of KAT for Turner/Nesmith type of package. Not saying Indy would do this or we would do this precise deal but something along those lines.....I think Hart and Mikal's contract are difficult to turn into 2 really solid good players...we'll probably run this back next season before making any significant changes..
Towns is the type of high-end talent you’d never be able to retrieve again. There was an opportunity and Rose seized it. He’s not merely on Randle’s or Sabonis’s or even Turner’s level, he just puts a lot more pressure on the opposition. You’re underrating this player and we already have two very solid two-way wings in place anyway. We need a mobile shot-blocker, that’s not an impossible task.
I mean we actually have a mobile shotblocker in Mitch--in fact one of the most mobile shotblockers in the league. Or you mean a second additional shotblocker?
As for KAT---I really like his offensive game a lot, it is incredible. However as great as he is on offense, he is every bit as bad on defense. For me the playoffs will be a very honest indication as to what I make of KAT. Careerwise he is at 19/10 in the playoffs---that is definitely not sufficient to offset his lack of defense....IMO he must be scoring at least 25points a game, better yet close to 30points to give me enough confidence that his defensive woes can be overlooked. The jury is out here. However if KAT could be turned into an 18/9 PF/C that can shoot and defend well as well as a playmaking wing that can shoot and defend, we'd be a better team. That was my basic point.
Edit: Who do you prefer? KAT or Adebayo if you had to choose in a vaccuum (leaving fit out for a moment)
Funny that you say that. I messed around and tried to think of Towns trades I’d feel good about outside of the obvious targets (Giannis, Jokic, AD etc.). Without thinking about the details too much, I came up with Towns (sometimes paired with Deuce or Mitch) for…
- Adebayo and Wiggins
- JJJ, Clarke and filler
- re-signed Turner and Mathurin
- Poeltl and Barnes
- Sengun and Smith
Overall, I actually don’t like all of these deals very much because none of these players provide us with the level of outside shooting and passing, or offense in general, that Towns does - but I might do some of them after all the details like draft picks are added or adjusted with a more careful look. The Miami deal looks pretty good for us, Houston too, of course, but unrealistic.
Adebayo is probably the better player, but if you look at him more closely and do not go by hearsay like this board usually does, you will find that he is a comparably erratic scorer, more like Bridges and he isn’t really a tall defender either. He’ll often score 11-12 points or even single digits and again, he is nowhere near the shooter that our guy is. Nobody’s ever perfect but you really cannot just look at our own players that way. I guess Adebayo is the better player, all things considered, though. His defense could make us contenders if Brunson could carry enough offense.
