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MeloDrama Part V

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1921 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:48 pm

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moocow007 wrote:Just an FYI...other guys with no trade clauses in their contracts include Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowiztki...aka the "Boyscouts" of the NBA (according to many of you sour pusses). Now why would these boyscouts have a need for a no trade clause since their teams are most definitely not ever going to trade them? Maybe because it's their right to have one and it's not that big a deal? Kobe Bryant is other guy with a no trade clause aside from Duncan, Nowitzki and Garnett.

Look, I'm not mad at Melo for asking. But this is a terrible argument. You just named three players with a combined 8 titles and probably 4 more years (combined) left in the league.

Melo demanding a no trade is a different animal altogether. Can't blame him for asking, but it puts NY in a real bind.


The point is that it's not a bid deal...and it's just a sign of security. Both Duncan and Nowitzki pushed for it because they didn't want to leave their respective teams. Why can't we assume the same here? Because Anthony is a bad guy unlike the rest of them and there's some ulterior/evil motive here?
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1922 » by nytonm » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:48 pm

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dreamer3kx wrote:So he wants a no trade and super MAX, peace, let him go, rather see young players grow and rebuild then to sign this dude.

There's a team in Philadelphia doing that. They're probably real fun to follow.

Yeah I wish that was our roster.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1923 » by Futureisnow » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:48 pm

So now we're freaking out over a no trade clause? Please oh please let this end soon.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1924 » by blumatic » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:48 pm

cgmw wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Just an FYI...other guys with no trade clauses in their contracts include Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowiztki...aka the "Boyscouts" of the NBA (according to many of you sour pusses). Now why would these boyscouts have a need for a no trade clause since their teams are most definitely not ever going to trade them? Maybe because it's their right to have one and it's not that big a deal? Kobe Bryant is other guy with a no trade clause aside from Duncan, Nowitzki and Garnett.

Look, I'm not mad at Melo for asking. But this is a terrible argument. You just named three players with a combined 8 titles and probably 4 more years (combined) left in the league.

Melo demanding a no trade is a different animal altogether. Can't blame him for asking, but it puts NY in a real bind.



Garnett had a no trade clause with the TWolves. And he repeatedly got bounced out the first round. But everyone loves him.

Im sure CP3 has one too. But not a peep about his playoff record.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1925 » by LJ4pointplay » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:48 pm

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LJ4pointplay wrote:According to Coon's FAQ, no trade clauses are only allowed if the player played for the team for four seasons. Melo has played for us for three full seasons, and one partial season. I am unsure whether the four seasons means four full seasons and I am unable to look through the language in the actual CBA right now. Maybe someone else will feel so inclined though.


Already answered. He can have a no-trade clause.

There's no partial season in the NBA. One single day on the active list automaticaly gives the player one year of service.

We're talking about seasons but the CBA language is "years of service".


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1926 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:49 pm

moocow007 wrote:
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moocow007 wrote:Just an FYI...other guys with no trade clauses in their contracts include Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowiztki...aka the "Boyscouts" of the NBA (according to many of you sour pusses). Now why would these boyscouts have a need for a no trade clause since their teams are most definitely not ever going to trade them? Maybe because it's their right to have one and it's not that bid a deal? Kobe Bryant is other guy with a no trade clause aside from Duncan, Nowitzki and Garnett.

They have one because they deserve it for being loyal to their teams and taking less money as they got older. Carmelo hasn't done **** as a Knick.


And the big deal is again?

The big deal is it lowers his trade value because he gets to decide where he could get traded. He does not deserve it.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1927 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:50 pm

Futureisnow wrote:So now we're freaking out over a no trade clause? Please oh please let this end soon.


There's got to be some clandestine reason that Anthony is asking for it I tell ya!!!
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Post#1928 » by god shammgod » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:50 pm

rasho probably needs to drink more. that also goes for everyone else.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1929 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:51 pm

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moocow007 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:They have one because they deserve it for being loyal to their teams and taking less money as they got older. Carmelo hasn't done **** as a Knick.


And the big deal is again?

The big deal is it lowers his trade value because he gets to decide where he could get traded. He does not deserve it.


So let him go then. And the Knicks can instead use their great other assets to facilitate deals.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1930 » by god shammgod » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:51 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
And the big deal is again?

The big deal is it lowers his trade value because he gets to decide where he could get traded. He does not deserve it.


So let him go then. And the Knicks can instead use their great other assets to facilitate deals.


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1931 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:51 pm

And you guys still not understanding why players don't want to come here? Every freaking little thing and it's a lynch mob.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1932 » by god shammgod » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:And you guys still not understanding why players don't want to come here?


because of rasho ?
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Post#1933 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:And you guys still not understanding why players don't want to come here? Every freaking little thing and it's a lynch mob.


It is truly insane.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1934 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:53 pm

blumatic wrote:
cgmw wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Just an FYI...other guys with no trade clauses in their contracts include Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowiztki...aka the "Boyscouts" of the NBA (according to many of you sour pusses). Now why would these boyscouts have a need for a no trade clause since their teams are most definitely not ever going to trade them? Maybe because it's their right to have one and it's not that big a deal? Kobe Bryant is other guy with a no trade clause aside from Duncan, Nowitzki and Garnett.

Look, I'm not mad at Melo for asking. But this is a terrible argument. You just named three players with a combined 8 titles and probably 4 more years (combined) left in the league.

Melo demanding a no trade is a different animal altogether. Can't blame him for asking, but it puts NY in a real bind.



Garnett had a no trade clause with the TWolves. And he repeatedly got bounced out the first round. But everyone loves him.

Im sure CP3 has one too. But not a peep about his playoff record.


But they're not Knicks and selfish and all that other bad stuff so they deserve it!
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1935 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:53 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
And the big deal is again?

The big deal is it lowers his trade value because he gets to decide where he could get traded. He does not deserve it.


So let him go then. And the Knicks can instead use their great other assets to facilitate deals.

That'd be the perfect scenario, he shouldn''t have his cake and eat it. A player that tries to blackmail his own team doesn't get to play the loyalty card.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1936 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:54 pm

god shammgod wrote:
moocow007 wrote:And you guys still not understanding why players don't want to come here?


because of rasho ?


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1937 » by nyknicks8016 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:54 pm

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 27s
Still waiting for Carmelo decision. Teams involved in sweepstakes have not heard anything yet this morning.

probably because its 7 am in LA
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1938 » by god shammgod » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:55 pm

what good is a cake if you can't eat it. that's a dumb expression.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1939 » by jstudabaka » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:55 pm

It's funny how LA has gotten thrown into the mix when the reality is it's probably the worse possible place for Melo to go. I mean going there would be a pretty absurd choice lol. 1.) Any team paying Kobe 25 mil or whatever it is obviously isn't winning anything in a brutal Western Conference; 2.) Melo loses at least 15, 20 mil, probably more; 3.) You have a fanbase with a delusional expectations that will blame Melo when the team fails to seriously contend.

The only real upside of LA is the marketing opportunities and prestige and whatnot, but he obviously already has that here and doesn't have to share billboards with Kobe.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1940 » by BallSacBounce » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:55 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Just an FYI...other guys with no trade clauses in their contracts include Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowiztki...aka the "Boyscouts" of the NBA (according to many of you sour pusses). Now why would these boyscouts have a need for a no trade clause since their teams are most definitely not ever going to trade them? Maybe because it's their right to have one and it's not that bid a deal? Kobe Bryant is other guy with a no trade clause aside from Duncan, Nowitzki and Garnett.

They have one because they deserve it for being loyal to their teams and taking less money as they got older. Carmelo hasn't done **** as a Knick.


And the big deal is again?


You can't trade him without his consent, even if the Knicks really wanted to.

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