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2018 Draft Thread (UPDATED POLL)

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Who ya wanna tank for?

Luka Doncic
92
54%
Marvin Bagley
18
11%
Michael Porter Jr
39
23%
Mohamed Bamba
5
3%
DeAndre Ayton
5
3%
Hamidou Diallo
1
1%
Kevin Knox
3
2%
Colin Sexton
1
1%
Miles Bridges
4
2%
Isaac Bonga
3
2%
 
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Post#1921 » by Mecca » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:30 pm

TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.
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Post#1922 » by DOT » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:52 pm

Mecca wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Troy Brown is my choice

Dude just needs a 3pt shot, but he's pretty solid all-around besides that

I'm not entirely sold on Bridges yet, I'll be watching him this year to see how much he's improved. Put him in the starting lineup, we'd be a nightmare in transition with Frank's vision, THJ and Bridges athleticism, and KP as the trailer
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread (UPDATED POLL) 

Post#1923 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:36 pm

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Ummmmmm ok, then stop complaining. It's a basketball forum and the two players were picked back to back. If you're going to keep posting here, then you're going to have to find a way to deal with your issue because the complaining ends now as I am done with this conversation. If you want to continue it further, feel free to PM me.



No i'm good. I thought this was a place for Knicks fans to talk about whatever they wanted and not be threatened to be.......removed maybe?? I'm not sure but that's what it seems you're getting at with that post. That's really too bad if i'm correct.


Lol my dude, this thread is just hoops talk. We don't gotta treat DSJ like the plague. As fans of the NBA we should appreciate young NBA talent, and this is coming from someone that wanted Frank so I'm not a DSJ apologist by any means.



Yeah i get it, the thing about it is i was a DSJ fan in the draft and was good with us drafting either one of Frank or DSJ although i preferred Frank's defense, but i didn't start not liking hearing DSJ's name until the ridiculous amount of attention he was getting on here and when the hate from some fans went to Frank because we didn't draft DSJ over him. So with me being a true Knicks fan and sticking up for Frank it made me not liking hearing every single day how we should of drafted DSJ over him and it was happening a lot on here so that's the only reason i started not liking DSJ, it was never about DSJ himself and his talent cause the kid has obvious talent. I get it though and i'll stop bringing it up like i was asked/told to.
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Post#1924 » by Besart19 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:43 pm

Our tank is safe as long as we dont go beyond 27-55 on the W/L column.
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Post#1925 » by Knickerbock » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:46 pm

-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.
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Post#1926 » by Knickerbock » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:54 pm

Luka Doncic and Mohamed Bamba seem like great fits alongside Porzingis.

Luka has suspect defensive abilities, but I think even with poor defense he can make a huge impact on wining team. He simply has a gift. High skill level, high iq, amazing vision, and does other things like rebound.

Mo Bamba can be that defensive anchor. That dude might change ever shot attempt in the paint. He also sucks up every rebound. Bamba also possesses amazing agility for a guy his size. So he can defend pick and roll on the perimeter. His offensive skills are actually starting to look smooth.

If we can land either of those two... We did great.!
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Post#1927 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:02 pm

Knickerbock wrote:Luka Doncic and Mohamed Bamba seem like great fits alongside Porzingis.

Luka has suspect defensive abilities, but I think even with poor defense he can make a huge impact on wining team. He simply has a gift. High skill level, high iq, amazing vision, and does other things like rebound.

Mo Bamba can be that defensive anchor. That dude might change ever shot attempt in the paint. He also sucks up every rebound. Bamba also possesses amazing agility for a guy his size. So he can defend pick and roll on the perimeter. His offensive skills are actually starting to look smooth.

If we can land either of those two... We did great.!



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Post#1928 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:06 pm

Knickerbock wrote:-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.


Bagley actually fits perfectly with KP. He's an athletic finisher in the paint who can stretch it a bit (although not consistently, yet). He's not best used as a stretch big, either...he's got a ways to go before he reaches that point.

According to Sean Miller, Ayton has been killing it in practices so far and has been really getting after it. If his attitude has changed, there's no reason to worry. I said this before and I'll say it again also, but I think Ayton's "laid back" mentality in HS was partially due to him being so much better than everyone else.
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Post#1929 » by Knickerbock » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:16 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.


Bagley actually fits perfectly with KP. He's an athletic finisher in the paint who can stretch it a bit (although not consistently, yet). He's not best used as a stretch big, either...he's got a ways to go before he reaches that point.

According to Sean Miller, Ayton has been killing it in practices so far and has been really getting after it. If his attitude has changed, there's no reason to worry. I said this before and I'll say it again also, but I think Ayton's "laid back" mentality in HS was partially due to him being so much better than everyone else.


Do you think Kristaps Porzingis and Marvin Bagley combination would be successful on the defensive end? What about the rebounding?
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Post#1930 » by F N 11 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:19 pm

Mecca wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Was thinking about him as well. 3 D and athleticism. He also has high IQ and passes well. Can't front I was mad at him for staying another year but its all good.

Also jumping the gun saying we thought we wont be good. Nets and Cavs arent exactly defensive studs. Good sign that we are in the right direction though.

What happens when teams aim to stop Tim and KP? who steps up? looks like we are running plays for both players so thats good to see.
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Post#1931 » by TankCommander17 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:21 pm

K P 6 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Was thinking about him as well. 3 D and athleticism. He also has high IQ and passes well. Can't front I was mad at him for staying another year but its all good.

Also jumping the gun saying we thought we wont be good. Nets and Cavs arent exactly defensive studs. Good sign that we are in the right direction though.

What happens when teams aim to stop Tim and KP? who steps up? looks like we are running plays for both players so thats good to see.

Bruh make up your mind. Every other post you contradict yourself.

Yes let's win.
No let's lose.
Yes we are good.
No we are not.

Pick a side and stick to it.
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Post#1932 » by TankCommander17 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:24 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.


Bagley actually fits perfectly with KP. He's an athletic finisher in the paint who can stretch it a bit (although not consistently, yet). He's not best used as a stretch big, either...he's got a ways to go before he reaches that point.

According to Sean Miller, Ayton has been killing it in practices so far and has been really getting after it. If his attitude has changed, there's no reason to worry. I said this before and I'll say it again also, but I think Ayton's "laid back" mentality in HS was partially due to him being so much better than everyone else.

That's still bad. If you play to the level of your competition at such an early age. Every great player has wanted to dominate evereyone regardless of talent.

Also wouldn't take too much stock on what his coach is saying. Of course he is goijng to preaise him or bye bye any possible future recruits.
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Post#1933 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:28 pm

Knickerbock wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.


Bagley actually fits perfectly with KP. He's an athletic finisher in the paint who can stretch it a bit (although not consistently, yet). He's not best used as a stretch big, either...he's got a ways to go before he reaches that point.

According to Sean Miller, Ayton has been killing it in practices so far and has been really getting after it. If his attitude has changed, there's no reason to worry. I said this before and I'll say it again also, but I think Ayton's "laid back" mentality in HS was partially due to him being so much better than everyone else.


Do you think Kristaps Porzingis and Marvin Bagley combination would be successful on the defensive end? What about the rebounding?


Absolutely perfect fit on defense.

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:-I don't really know how Bagley would fit next to Porzingis. They both are best as that stretch big.

-Porter is a great shooter and skilled scorer, but does he do anything else? Where the defense at?

-DeAndre Ayton to me has very high bust potential. He has all the physical tool and the skill, but I don't think he had the mentally to become a star.


Bagley actually fits perfectly with KP. He's an athletic finisher in the paint who can stretch it a bit (although not consistently, yet). He's not best used as a stretch big, either...he's got a ways to go before he reaches that point.

According to Sean Miller, Ayton has been killing it in practices so far and has been really getting after it. If his attitude has changed, there's no reason to worry. I said this before and I'll say it again also, but I think Ayton's "laid back" mentality in HS was partially due to him being so much better than everyone else.

That's still bad. If you play to the level of your competition at such an early age. Every great player has wanted to dominate evereyone regardless of talent.

Also wouldn't take too much stock on what his coach is saying. Of course he is goijng to preaise him or bye bye any possible future recruits.


That's why I said "if his attitude has changed" - I know it could be lip service, but we'll be able to see soon enough. As for him playing to the level of competition - that was never the problem.

He didn't play down if he played worse players, he simply wouldn't fully exert himself on both ends. It's a different issue. He'd still play as an A+ talent, but it wouldn't be on every possession. Anyone who has played any kind of competitive basketball knows that yeah, you'd love to kill it every second you're on the court...but it can get boring playing against people who are simply way worse than you.
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Post#1934 » by F N 11 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:30 pm

TankCommander17 wrote:
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Mecca wrote:
Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Was thinking about him as well. 3 D and athleticism. He also has high IQ and passes well. Can't front I was mad at him for staying another year but its all good.

Also jumping the gun saying we thought we wont be good. Nets and Cavs arent exactly defensive studs. Good sign that we are in the right direction though.

What happens when teams aim to stop Tim and KP? who steps up? looks like we are running plays for both players so thats good to see.

Bruh make up your mind. Every other post you contradict yourself.

Yes let's win.
No let's lose.
Yes we are good.
No we are not.

Pick a side and stick to it.

Miles bridges is slotted at 15 in mock drafts guy. Thats what im basing my comment on. Im being realistic. I want us to win but im not out here hyping it up too much because Cavs and Nets are trash on D.

Make up my mind? Im not a tanker like you to start the season. Thats known. I root for development and confidence building. If it results in W's then even better.
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Post#1935 » by TankCommander17 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:31 pm

K P 6 wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:Was thinking about him as well. 3 D and athleticism. He also has high IQ and passes well. Can't front I was mad at him for staying another year but its all good.

Also jumping the gun saying we thought we wont be good. Nets and Cavs arent exactly defensive studs. Good sign that we are in the right direction though.

What happens when teams aim to stop Tim and KP? who steps up? looks like we are running plays for both players so thats good to see.

Bruh make up your mind. Every other post you contradict yourself.

Yes let's win.
No let's lose.
Yes we are good.
No we are not.

Pick a side and stick to it.

Miles bridges is slotted at 15 in mock drafts guy. Thats what im basing my comment on. Im being realistic. I want us to win but im not out here hyping it up too much because Cavs and Nets are trash on D.

Make up my mind? Im not a tanker like you to start the season. Thats known. I root for development and confidence building. If it results in W's then even better.

You literally posted in one of your posts "I don't knmow what I Want. Lol that is why I said it. Whatever it's just funny
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Post#1936 » by F N 11 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:38 pm

TankCommander17 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:Bruh make up your mind. Every other post you contradict yourself.

Yes let's win.
No let's lose.
Yes we are good.
No we are not.

Pick a side and stick to it.

Miles bridges is slotted at 15 in mock drafts guy. Thats what im basing my comment on. Im being realistic. I want us to win but im not out here hyping it up too much because Cavs and Nets are trash on D.

Make up my mind? Im not a tanker like you to start the season. Thats known. I root for development and confidence building. If it results in W's then even better.

You literally posted in one of your posts "I don't knmow what I Want. Lol that is why I said it. Whatever it's just funny

It's definitely not tanking to start the year. If the 4 core guys (Tim, KP, Frank, and Willy) are main factors in winning, how can I root for losses? If they can contribute to winning that makes them better players period.
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Post#1937 » by N Y K » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:43 pm

TankCommander17, remember last year’s start?
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Post#1938 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:45 pm

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TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Troy Brown is my choice

Dude just needs a 3pt shot, but he's pretty solid all-around besides that

I'm not entirely sold on Bridges yet, I'll be watching him this year to see how much he's improved. Put him in the starting lineup, we'd be a nightmare in transition with Frank's vision, THJ and Bridges athleticism, and KP as the trailer

YES.
i think he's a souped up jaylen brown TBH. i'm very high on him

also agree with u on miles bridges. i'm not sold on him 100% either, but can't deny that he's a solid player and would fit nicely with our core
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Post#1939 » by DOT » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:51 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Troy Brown is my choice

Dude just needs a 3pt shot, but he's pretty solid all-around besides that

I'm not entirely sold on Bridges yet, I'll be watching him this year to see how much he's improved. Put him in the starting lineup, we'd be a nightmare in transition with Frank's vision, THJ and Bridges athleticism, and KP as the trailer

YES.
i think he's a souped up jaylen brown TBH. i'm very high on him

also agree with u on miles bridges. i'm not sold on him 100% either, but can't deny that he's a solid player and would fit nicely with our core

I don't know about that, Brown has been a hell of a player this year

I always saw him as a Harrison Barnes type, the kind of guy who can start on a championship team and play solid, but shouldn't be a first or second option, swiss army knife type of player

If we want to go for high upside, high risk, there's still plenty of guys like Hachimura, Knox, Bonga, Diallo that should be available in the 10-15 range
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Post#1940 » by E-Balla » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:57 pm

Mecca wrote:
TankCommander17 wrote:Anywho now that that annoyance is done. So who is in the 11th to 19th pick range that we might be able to get?

I literally only focused on scouting the top 5 because I really thought we'd suck really really bad.


Hyperbole much? Miles Bridges would be an incredible fit if we fall out of the top 5 and have a similar record as last year.

Hell no he wouldn't. PF with SG size. He can take a hike we got our PF of the future.

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