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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:48 am
by Traveyknicks23
drekwins wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
drekwins wrote:
You don't worry about Knox lol Knox is likely to be traded at some point no matter what. If he can't ever play the 4, he's useless.

C: Mitch - 21
PF:
SF: RJ - 19
SG: Beal - 26
PG: DLO -23

I posted this earlier but if you build around these 4, the Knicks will have just enough for a 30% max FA next year or 2021. I did the calculations and posted them. It's legit.

That means that we could offer DSJ, Knox and a 1st for Beal and be good/young enough to attract FAs finally. Upcoming FA's include AD, Giannis, Towns, Turner, etc.


That looks terrible gannis ain’t coming possibly towns? Nah b we’d be a treadmill team


You're comparing them to guys 28 to 34 year old. They are elite for their age group. They will eventually become elite as the older guys fall off. Get ahead of the curve.


Who on that list is elite? Beal?

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:48 am
by knickstape21
Ew to Russell. High volume, mostly inefficient, lack of defense guard that gets hot here and there. PASS!

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:48 am
by Mecca
robillionaire wrote:Anyway we’re set with DSJ at PG we don’t need any of these other dudes


Ehh and I like DSJ, but we def not “set.”

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:49 am
by SARGO127
knickstape21 wrote:Lol @ Irving. Nets are a joke.


Let’s be real. We are the joke.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:49 am
by Traveyknicks23
knickstape21 wrote:Ew to Russell. High volume, mostly inefficient, lack of defense guard that gets hot here and there. PASS!

I don’t get the obsession

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:49 am
by drekwins
RShahNyC89 wrote:If Nets sign Kyrie, they can re-up DLo right?

If they sign Kyrie and Butler or Kyrie and Harris, then Russel is a FA?

I honestly would sign him to a max. I think his contract projects better than Kyries for the next 4 years and moving forward.


Like Beal, his max is only 25% of the cap. Much better than 30 or 35% for roster construction... which is why we'd have another max next year or 2021 to spend.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:50 am
by RShahNyC89
I don't like DSJr.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:50 am
by AllanHoustonFan
Wonderllama wrote:Nets can get KD too right?

I think it happens

It's going to be Butler or apparently Harris.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:50 am
by Traveyknicks23
Kd>>> all these trash options

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:51 am
by Traveyknicks23
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Nets can get KD too right?

I think it happens

It's going to be Butler or apparently Harris.


So either kd is staying or he’s coming here

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:51 am
by WargamesX
drekwins wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:restricted


They ain't letting him go. Scratch him.


They don't have a choice if they sign Jimmy Butler or Harris. They'll have to renounce his cap hold.


I think they want Tobias. They've been talking about him since the Playoff series and it doesn't make sense to bring in Kyrie to play with DLo. Their styles don't mess well because DLo is too ball dominant. Also they got Dimwiddie on a good contract.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:51 am
by knickstape21
SARGO127 wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:Lol @ Irving. Nets are a joke.


Let’s be real. We are the joke.


The Nets should be in Seattle. Bring back the Sonics.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:51 am
by Mecca
DLo is 23 years old guys. You blend him with Mitch and RJ and you suddenly have a fun core, 35 million in cap space, and all your picks as well as 2 Dallas picks.

I would spend the rest of our money taking on contracts that come with first rounders. Add DLo to the core and acquire more first rounders.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:52 am
by B8RcDeMktfxC
Wonderllama wrote:Nets can get KD too right?

I think it happens

I did that calc as well in the last thread. Can't be bothered to look it up, but I *think* they were about $1.3m short of being able to max both KD+KI (assuming they waive/don't take up everything possible, including DLo). Maybe Kyrie pays that? Idk. It's "his" boyhood team.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:52 am
by ADeP7
I don’t think wizards bite on that but DsJ Knox 1st for Beal would be great assuming you can snag Russell in free agency

Russel
Beal
Barrett
?
Mitch

Bout to build this lineup in 2k lol

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:52 am
by VirginiaKnickFan
JBreezeNY wrote:I know the shift has now gone to Kyrie but one last note on why it would make sense to get KD even with his injury:

We can’t let the cap go to waste.

Signing KD and hoping he returns to what he was while also pursuing Kawhi makes a lot more sense than just rolling back the money. Take the risk and live with it while also growing the youngins.

What exactly is the big deal?

Even if KD isn’t who he is...so what?

We’re still gonna have the young pups on the team, could still go after a player in 2020 if we choose to.


Signing only AD and no other FAs certainly doesn't affect the tank next season.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:52 am
by Chanel Bomber
Mecca wrote:DLo is 23 years old guys. You blend him with Mitch and RJ and you suddenly have a fun core, 35 million in cap space, and all your picks as well as 2 Orlando picks.

I would spend the rest of our money taking on contracts that come with first rounders. Add DLo to the core and acquire more first rounders.

My man.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 am
by RShahNyC89
Russel
Beal
Barret
_____
Mitch

(Trading DSJr, Knox, Frank, 2020 Knicks and the protected Mavs pick). We can even eat a **** contract this year into cap space.. As long as it's expired by 2021.

We can eat other **** contracts too as long as they don't go beyond 2021.

That's a fun playoff team with young talent.

OR

Just continue to build through draft and use cap space for assets. F this AD BS.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 am
by WargamesX
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:Ew to Russell. High volume, mostly inefficient, lack of defense guard that gets hot here and there. PASS!

I don’t get the obsession


You hope he is young enough to bring it together. A lot of the better PG's in the league didn't look as good as he does when they were his age. He'll never be elite but he's likely going to be an all star a few more times.

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 am
by AllanHoustonFan
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Nets can get KD too right?

I think it happens

It's going to be Butler or apparently Harris.


So either kd is staying or he’s coming here

It's always been that way before and after the achilles tear.