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VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Bob Ross wrote:SARGO127 wrote:
The longer this goes on, the better it is for the Knicks.
Yes it could go that way. The longer it drags out also allows for a mystery team to put together a good offer and trade for him right from under us
What mystery teams outside of OKC have a stash of draft picks?
Bob Ross wrote:What the fck this still hasn't happened yet?
Bob Ross wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Bob Ross wrote:
Yes it could go that way. The longer it drags out also allows for a mystery team to put together a good offer and trade for him right from under us
What mystery teams outside of OKC have a stash of draft picks?
There's always someone who you never expect that can make a few moves and put something together. Maybe not always but I guarantee the Jazz aren't just hearing from us.
KnicksGod wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
Melo did not grow up in NY and I don't think that's really why DM is interested, nor JB. I think you're wrong on all three my friend.
Melo spent the first eight years of his life in NY. It's not meaningless. He wanted to come home.
NBA stars have proven time and time again in the last 10 years they don't want to play for the Knicks. Even those who were interested in the market found better alternatives.
Brunson isn't a star, but he's a good player, and a step in the right direction in attracting star players. The Knicks threw the kitchen sink at him just to secure him, because they know nothing is guaranteed for the Knicks - and I fully support their efforts.
If they can acquire Mitchell, the Knicks will officially be back in business.
We're both right to an extent. My point is that history and common sense tell you the Knicks are still in good position to acquire guys. Losing did scare guys away, yes, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "time and time again." Who were the stars we lost? KD and Bron. LMA I guess can be added to the list. Lowry wanted to be traded to the Knicks. Melo came, DM wants to come.
You can't just say they're New Yorkers so that's it. KD obviously had interest and so did LBJ. The problem is that the top guys are also not the toughest guys as it turns out.
Yes you have to be willing to risk things to play for the Knicks. Nets lowered the risk and got them their market. For some guys, though, and I agree with you that things have softened up and the Knicks losing tips the scales some, the risk of failure on the biggest stage is what they're looking for. They want to feel that when they play.
If the Knicks were good, it helps. That's why the Lakers have gotten guys. A good blend of risk and reward. But, the reward is still there for guys to come to NY. Just takes a little more guts.
Time and time again seems overstated though.
Bob Ross wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Bob Ross wrote:
Yes it could go that way. The longer it drags out also allows for a mystery team to put together a good offer and trade for him right from under us
What mystery teams outside of OKC have a stash of draft picks?
There's always someone who you never expect that can make a few moves and put something together. Maybe not always but I guarantee the Jazz aren't just hearing from us.
Chanel Bomber wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Melo spent the first eight years of his life in NY. It's not meaningless. He wanted to come home.
NBA stars have proven time and time again in the last 10 years they don't want to play for the Knicks. Even those who were interested in the market found better alternatives.
Brunson isn't a star, but he's a good player, and a step in the right direction in attracting star players. The Knicks threw the kitchen sink at him just to secure him, because they know nothing is guaranteed for the Knicks - and I fully support their efforts.
If they can acquire Mitchell, the Knicks will officially be back in business.
We're both right to an extent. My point is that history and common sense tell you the Knicks are still in good position to acquire guys. Losing did scare guys away, yes, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "time and time again." Who were the stars we lost? KD and Bron. LMA I guess can be added to the list. Lowry wanted to be traded to the Knicks. Melo came, DM wants to come.
You can't just say they're New Yorkers so that's it. KD obviously had interest and so did LBJ. The problem is that the top guys are also not the toughest guys as it turns out.
Yes you have to be willing to risk things to play for the Knicks. Nets lowered the risk and got them their market. For some guys, though, and I agree with you that things have softened up and the Knicks losing tips the scales some, the risk of failure on the biggest stage is what they're looking for. They want to feel that when they play.
If the Knicks were good, it helps. That's why the Lakers have gotten guys. A good blend of risk and reward. But, the reward is still there for guys to come to NY. Just takes a little more guts.
Time and time again seems overstated though.
I think it has been true for the last decade.
Durant turned us down twice. Kyrie didn't want to come. Jimmy didn't want to come. Kawhi didn't want to come. No big name player forced a trade here the way Harden, PG13 did, for instance. The Knicks have become a complete non-factor in those stories. They're on the sidelines.
And I think it's a disgrace that the Knicks - who have the luxury and the comparative advantage of playing in NY - haven't been able to attract any of these players.
I agree with you that they would be in good position to acquire guys without the constant losing. The latter is the essence of my point, however.
N Y K wrote:Just trade anyone for anything at this point. Jesus!
ag3 wrote:Woj likely updates soon that the 2 teams have started talking again.
N Y K wrote:Just trade anyone for anything at this point. Jesus!
KnicksGod wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
We're both right to an extent. My point is that history and common sense tell you the Knicks are still in good position to acquire guys. Losing did scare guys away, yes, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "time and time again." Who were the stars we lost? KD and Bron. LMA I guess can be added to the list. Lowry wanted to be traded to the Knicks. Melo came, DM wants to come.
You can't just say they're New Yorkers so that's it. KD obviously had interest and so did LBJ. The problem is that the top guys are also not the toughest guys as it turns out.
Yes you have to be willing to risk things to play for the Knicks. Nets lowered the risk and got them their market. For some guys, though, and I agree with you that things have softened up and the Knicks losing tips the scales some, the risk of failure on the biggest stage is what they're looking for. They want to feel that when they play.
If the Knicks were good, it helps. That's why the Lakers have gotten guys. A good blend of risk and reward. But, the reward is still there for guys to come to NY. Just takes a little more guts.
Time and time again seems overstated though.
I think it has been true for the last decade.
Durant turned us down twice. Kyrie didn't want to come. Jimmy didn't want to come. Kawhi didn't want to come. No big name player forced a trade here the way Harden, PG13 did, for instance. The Knicks have become a complete non-factor in those stories. They're on the sidelines.
And I think it's a disgrace that the Knicks - who have the luxury and the comparative advantage of playing in NY - haven't been able to attract any of these players.
I agree with you that they would be in good position to acquire guys without the constant losing. The latter is the essence of my point, however.
I'm not a big fan of just yelling that things are a disgrace. Sort of implies bad faith which I don't think has ever been the case.
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