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2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1921 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:53 am

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Monk1718 wrote:I doubt it would ever happen but what would a bridges trade even look like


Pick laden as the core is locked. So some form of
Grimes + Fournier + Mavs Knicks 24 1sts
Bucks (1-4) pick / unprotected Knicks pick in 26
Swap in 25


add in a couple more firsts why you are at it. If the deal was even possible and nets were interested they would be asking for all our picks and the farthest out ones. No way we would be able to keep 28' and 30' in this kind of deal since we aren't adding in any impactful young pieces going back to them.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1923 » by Knick4Real » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:03 am

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1924 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:51 am

Seems legit
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1926 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:21 am

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1927 » by G_K_F » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:19 am

All I know is that if we acquire Alec Burks or someone of this ilk then we should all go ape ****.

If we’re serious about making any type of playoff run this season we need to make a strong move to improve the bench.
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Post#1928 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:23 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:All I know is that if we acquire Alec Burks or someone of this ilk then we should all go ape ****.

If we’re serious about making any type of playoff run this season we need to make a strong move to improve the bench.


I don’t mind him 10 to 15 a night but you know Thibs will play him 30 and keep playing him when he is playing bad.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1929 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:03 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:All I know is that if we acquire Alec Burks or someone of this ilk then we should all go ape ****.

If we’re serious about making any type of playoff run this season we need to make a strong move to improve the bench.

Actually, I don't think that this is "the year." I think that next season is "the year". I think we're looking to see if we can get to the ECF without sacrificing our flexibility for this summer.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1930 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:58 am

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Hes_On_Fire wrote:All I know is that if we acquire Alec Burks or someone of this ilk then we should all go ape ****.

If we’re serious about making any type of playoff run this season we need to make a strong move to improve the bench.

Actually, I don't think that this is "the year." I think that next season is "the year". I think we're looking to see if we can get to the ECF without sacrificing our flexibility for this summer.


They aren't getting to the ECF without a couple of small bench moves THIS year. Alec Burks? No.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1931 » by ispitmoney1 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:08 am

How do you guys feel about this trade with the Hawks?

Atl trades:
Clint Capela
Dejounte Murray

NY trades:
Evan Fournier
Quentin Grimes
Mitchell Robinson
1-2 picks

This trade sets the Knicks up well this season at the center position and fills the scoring void left by IQ.
Also, Capela has a $20M expiring next year so we can use him in a trade to take on salary (similar to our approach with Fournier)

New Knicks Lineup:

C: Capela, IHart, Sims
PF: Randle, Precious
SF: OG, Hart
SG: Murray, Donte
PG: Brunson, Deuce

Thoughts?
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1932 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 am

ispitmoney1 wrote:How do you guys feel about this trade with the Hawks?

Atl trades:
Clint Capela
Dejounte Murray

NY trades:
Evan Fournier
Quentin Grimes
Mitchell Robinson
1-2 picks

This trade sets the Knicks up well this season at the center position and fills the scoring void left by IQ.
Also, Capela has a $20M expiring next year so we can use him in a trade to take on salary (similar to our approach with Fournier)

New Knicks Lineup:

C: Capela, IHart, Sims
PF: Randle, Precious
SF: OG, Hart
SG: Murray, Donte
PG: Brunson, Deuce

Thoughts?


Been discussed. No. STFU and GTFO!!
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1933 » by Spree2Houston » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:40 am

Embiid is the target. He’s going to ask out. Randle, Mitch and picks will be the trade. Randle probably knows. It’s why he left CAA.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1934 » by ispitmoney1 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:50 am

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ispitmoney1 wrote:How do you guys feel about this trade with the Hawks?

Atl trades:
Clint Capela
Dejounte Murray

NY trades:
Evan Fournier
Quentin Grimes
Mitchell Robinson
1-2 picks

This trade sets the Knicks up well this season at the center position and fills the scoring void left by IQ.
Also, Capela has a $20M expiring next year so we can use him in a trade to take on salary (similar to our approach with Fournier)

New Knicks Lineup:

C: Capela, IHart, Sims
PF: Randle, Precious
SF: OG, Hart
SG: Murray, Donte
PG: Brunson, Deuce

Thoughts?


Been discussed. No. STFU and GTFO!!



Why though?!? I’m a Knicks fan and I really believe It’s a good trade for the Knicks! Hate parting with Robinson but we get a decent healthy replacement in Capela. Also, by giving up Robinson, the trade-off is that we give up less draft compensation. We can save that for a ‘big fish’ if they are on the trading block at a later date (ie Embiid, Donovan Mitchell, etc)
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1935 » by Wildcat » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:18 pm

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The BKN ain't it fact has been proven time and again but, they got KD/Kyrie. It doesn't matter what CLE wants to do. Miami ALWAYS finds a way. It's not like DM is going anywhere this season. None of your reasons are very valid at all.


Enlighten me. Other than this KD/Kyrie situation, what other marquee (or otherwise for that manner) player signed with Brooklyn over the Knicks? DeAndre Jordan? Nets have always had a better situation than the Knicks in year's past. Be it their roster, cap space, draft picks, or all of the above. That's out the window. Their draft capital is trash, the roster isn't great, and CBA will make throwing all their cap space into 1 max not ideal. Saying it isn't "cool" to play for the Knicks didn't age well for KD. The Nets rep around the league has been thoroughly trashed. Listen to the post game presser if you're on the fence on that because what Miles said and the tone it was said is quite telling.

As for Miami, where's Lillard? We can't say they always find a way when they just missed out on Lillard and Holiday. Rozier is a nice pick-up, but no one was really fighting over him.

Spida is more likely to stay with Cleveland than he isn't when we consider they can pay him the most. I'm sure if they decide to built around him, Garland and Mobley will net them complimentary pieces.


Cleveland is no mans land. If LeBron wasn't from Ohio they STILL wouldn't have a championship. Even HE left his hometown! :lol: TWICE!! :rofl: We are not talking about choosing BKN over the Knicks. We are talking about Cleveland. :lol: He's gone by the next TDL or sooner. You are crazy to think anything else.


LeBron leaving Cleveland is very different circumstance than if Spida leaves. He left in 2010 because Cleveland weren't interested in spending money and frankly playing for Pat with Wade and Bosh was obviously the better career path no manner how **** the decision was. And we already know why he left in 2018 (for his brand) and left more or less in good terms.

But why wouldn't Brooklyn be about the conversation when you brought up that they got KD/Kyrie picked Brooklyn over the Knicks? Seems like you're putting it out there that there is choice between Knicks/Nets.

Spida staying in Cleveland is not a forgone conclusion. Assuming there's no major moves to shift cap space, there is no team other than the 76ers that can pay him the max the year he opts out of his player option and that max is lower than the max he gets in Cleveland. Not signing the extension last Summer wasn't a sign he was leaving, but rather to get another year if he choose to sign an extension. Mitchell starting salary could be as much as 60 mil per season staying with Cleveland. If Cleveland decides to pivot and trade Garland and Mobley for better pieces to fit with Michell, I see it as a real possibly that Donovan stays.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1936 » by DaGawd » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:22 pm

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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1937 » by god shammgod » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:28 pm

we're not getting embiid and we may not get donovan either. but we aint gonna be a contender by trading multiple young players/picks for bench help. so what is the point ?

miami got terry but this is it for them now. they don't have enough picks to trade for any stars now (they barely did before). if this is not enough they're kind of screwed. worrying about this year is the short view. we're not winning it all this year with any rumored guy we could get. the knicks need to continue to think long term. if they can get some help cheap that's fine. otherwise it's not worth it.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1938 » by DaGawd » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:we're not getting embiid and we may not get donovan either. but we aint gonna be a contender by trading multiple young players/picks for bench help. so what is the point ?

miami got terry but this is it for them now. they don't have enough picks to trade for any stars now (they barely did before). if this is not enough they're kind of screwed. worrying about this year is the short view. we're not winning it all this year with any rumored guy we could get. the knicks need to continue to think long term. if they can get some help cheap that's fine. otherwise it's not worth it.

nah.. they can’t really afford to think long term. i prefer they try their best to go hard after a chip each year while we have brunson in his prime years
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1939 » by god shammgod » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:41 pm

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god shammgod wrote:we're not getting embiid and we may not get donovan either. but we aint gonna be a contender by trading multiple young players/picks for bench help. so what is the point ?

miami got terry but this is it for them now. they don't have enough picks to trade for any stars now (they barely did before). if this is not enough they're kind of screwed. worrying about this year is the short view. we're not winning it all this year with any rumored guy we could get. the knicks need to continue to think long term. if they can get some help cheap that's fine. otherwise it's not worth it.

nah.. they can’t really afford to think long term. i prefer they try their best to go hard after a chip each year while we have brunson in his prime years


but that's the point. nothing they can do will make them able to go after a chip right now. they're not that close that if we got terry rozier instead it would shift the balance of power.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3 

Post#1940 » by Fury » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:we're not getting embiid and we may not get donovan either. but we aint gonna be a contender by trading multiple young players/picks for bench help. so what is the point ?

miami got terry but this is it for them now. they don't have enough picks to trade for any stars now (they barely did before). if this is not enough they're kind of screwed. worrying about this year is the short view. we're not winning it all this year with any rumored guy we could get. the knicks need to continue to think long term. if they can get some help cheap that's fine. otherwise it's not worth it.


Aren’t there some picks we should use up sooner rather than later? If we can get a guy that doesn’t affect the long term assets, and will be here next year, we have to go for it.

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