Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

[j4remi]

It's kinda funny but Flip Saunders definitely would be the one to pass on Towns and Okafor for another prospect...not that it has anything to do with Porzingas and his potential, just even without knowing about him if you told me to pick a team that would do that...Minne would be an early guess.

[Blue Ninja]

I honestly disagree. I think he would be a great fit for us. The only problem would be that the city isn't patient enough to let him develop.

I don't see a system that he can't fit in. His size, skill, and ability to stretch the defense is useful everywhere.

Where would he play early on? He's not strong enough to be a big man. He needs a team where he can develop and play SF. Early on he would also be best to play in a fast pace system which can make him more effective by using his athleticism. Skill wise he's pretty raw. Just has a good shot and elite size/athleticism. But lack of awareness and poor passing ability make him a not so great fit right now.

[mpharris36]

I honestly disagree. I think he would be a great fit for us. The only problem would be that the city isn't patient enough to let him develop.

I don't see a system that he can't fit in. His size, skill, and ability to stretch the defense is useful everywhere.

Where would he play early on? He's not strong enough to be a big man. He needs a team where he can develop and play SF. Early on he would also be best to play in a fast pace system which can make him more effective by using his athleticism. Skill wise he's pretty raw. Just has a good shot and elite size/athleticism. But lack of awareness and poor passing ability make him a not so great fit right now.

he's over 7ft there aren't that many back to the basket bigs anymore. He could play the 4 position in the NBA. Unless you are worried about him going up against Zack Randolph every night.

But I just don't think the knicks can take that type of risk. It wouldn't be a good look.

[Blue Ninja]

he's over 7ft there aren't that many back to the basket bigs anymore. He could play the 4 position in the NBA. Unless you are worried about him going up against Zack Randolph every night.

But I just don't think the knicks can take that type of risk. It wouldn't be a good look.

He'd get manhandled on the boards. That's a major issue. Even without Zach Randolphs he would still put us at a major disadvantage defensively and rebounding wise at PF.

[IAmTheBest]

I really dont understand all this winslow , porzingis, hergonza, wcs @4 talk.

I know everyone likes to think they found the next diamond in the rough, but let's just do the smart thing and stick with the highly touted top 4 prospects of the draft? You know - ones guaranteed to be all-stars at minimum?

Or do you guys really want to end up with the next bargnani? the next beasley? do you want to be detroit that went after darko?

[GONYK]

I honestly disagree. I think he would be a great fit for us. The only problem would be that the city isn't patient enough to let him develop.

I don't see a system that he can't fit in. His size, skill, and ability to stretch the defense is useful everywhere.

Where would he play early on? He's not strong enough to be a big man. He needs a team where he can develop and play SF. Early on he would also be best to play in a fast pace system which can make him more effective by using his athleticism. Skill wise he's pretty raw. Just has a good shot and elite size/athleticism. But lack of awareness and poor passing ability make him a not so great fit right now.

Well, that is the whole thing with him. I don't think anyone can draft him with the expectation of what he can do right now. Any team that takes the chance on him is making a 4 commitment at least.

I think that is what ultimately will cause us to pass on him. I don't think his potential development curve puts him as a bad fit long term though.

[GONYK]

I really dont understand all this winslow , porzingis, hergonza, wcs @4 talk.

I know everyone likes to think they found the next diamond in the rough, but let's just do the smart thing and stick with the highly touted top 4 prospects of the draft? You know - ones guaranteed to be all-stars at minimum?

Or do you guys really want to end up with the next bargnani? the next beasley? do you want to be detroit that went after darko?

That is being overly optimistic. The draft is full of uncertainty and no one is guaranteed to be anything.

[IAmTheBest]

I really dont understand all this winslow , porzingis, hergonza, wcs @4 talk.

I know everyone likes to think they found the next diamond in the rough, but let's just do the smart thing and stick with the highly touted top 4 prospects of the draft? You know - ones guaranteed to be all-stars at minimum?

Or do you guys really want to end up with the next bargnani? the next beasley? do you want to be detroit that went after darko?

That is being overly optimistic. The draft is full of uncertainty and no one is guaranteed to be anything.

Let me reword - they are basically guaranteed to become all-stars based on their current trajectories.

They are top prospects. The others are not.

[GONYK]

I really dont understand all this winslow , porzingis, hergonza, wcs @4 talk.

I know everyone likes to think they found the next diamond in the rough, but let's just do the smart thing and stick with the highly touted top 4 prospects of the draft? You know - ones guaranteed to be all-stars at minimum?

Or do you guys really want to end up with the next bargnani? the next beasley? do you want to be detroit that went after darko?

That is being overly optimistic. The draft is full of uncertainty and no one is guaranteed to be anything.

Let me reword - they are basically guaranteed to become all-stars based on their current trajectories.

They are top prospects. The others are not.

If that is your definition, then Porzingis is right up there. His trajectory path is just longer.

[IAmTheBest]

That is being overly optimistic. The draft is full of uncertainty and no one is guaranteed to be anything.

Let me reword - they are basically guaranteed to become all-stars based on their current trajectories.

They are top prospects. The others are not.

If that is your definition, then Porzingis is right up there. His trajectory path is just longer.

The general consensus is that he's not as good a prospect as the other 4. I'm not saying that he won't become better than the other 4, because anything can happen based on virtually an infinite number of variables. But, based on what we know right now, it really isnt smart to take him above the other 4.

[DLTGWH]

Porzingis or Mudiay.

Both have physical abilities that are elite for their position. Both may have the highest ceilings in the draft. Don't think you can go wrong with either.

[GONYK]

Let me reword - they are basically guaranteed to become all-stars based on their current trajectories.

They are top prospects. The others are not.

If that is your definition, then Porzingis is right up there. His trajectory path is just longer.

The general consensus is that he's not as good a prospect as the other 4. I'm not saying that he won't become better than the other 4, because anything can happen based on virtually an infinite number of variables. But, based on what we know right now, it really isnt smart to take him above the other 4.

The general consensus is that he's not as NBA ready today but his overall projection is right up there with anyone in the top 4.

I agree that we shouldn't be passing on any of the top 4 prospects for him, simply because the risk is too high and the wait is too long, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world if we did take a chance on him.

[Capn'O]

It's kinda funny but Flip Saunders definitely would be the one to pass on Towns and Okafor for another prospect...not that it has anything to do with Porzingas and his potential, just even without knowing about him if you told me to pick a team that would do that...Minne would be an early guess.

He would have the real Kevin Garnett to tutor the European one. Hard to pass on that.

[Johnny Hoops]

Porzingis apparently works out in Vegas in early June (12th?) -- it will be very interesting to see what his body is looking like currently.

In some of the more recent videos of him his legs appeared to have gotten thicker/stronger -- if he comes in and that body is looking more NBA ready right now I could see him pushing himself into that top 4.

Take the Lakers in this example --- their fan base has seen a foreign born player be a HUGE part of a couple of championship teams out there. If the Lakers place premium value on Porzingis they may feel their fan base will accept him.

Do I think this happens? No -- but it's possible someone in that top 3 and even the Knicks at 4 see something special in Porzingis.

That workout will be interesting -- I expect him to blow people out of the water with his size/skills/shooting/etc but I really want to see or hear how his body looks. At this point his physical stature may be the only thing holding him back.

[Rasho Brezec]

I'd go crazy if Towns isn't picked #1 and Lakers get him.

[Marty McFly]

the knicks nor lakers can afford to take the kid right now. the sixers have his positions covered. if the wolves trade down i think they'd consider him.

[j4remi]

It's kinda funny but Flip Saunders definitely would be the one to pass on Towns and Okafor for another prospect...not that it has anything to do with Porzingas and his potential, just even without knowing about him if you told me to pick a team that would do that...Minne would be an early guess.

He would have the real Kevin Garnett to tutor the European one. Hard to pass on that.

The humor I find is that without knowing the logic or player selected...I'd have Minne on my short list for a team that might pick someone other than the most obvious choice (because I kinda looked at Towns as the perfect player to be mentored by KG).

[Dave4585]

Unless someone else blows everyone away with their workouts, stick with the remainder of the top 4 don't get cute with the pick

[Dave4585]

Top 4 pick should be someone who can be a game changer possibly and a number 1 or 2 guy on a team so players like WCS and Winslow who are specialists type supporting players should not be picked unless we trade down in the draft

[Jeff Van Gully]

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