Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8

[Worst_to_First]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

Frank can play the Kidd/Prigs/Shump roles in our Atlantic Division Champs 54-win team.

[Dr. Detfink]

Isola isn't wrong. Melo got some honey dripped in his ear by Lebron, thinking Phil and the Knicks are going to do what HE wants. Phil looked at how that ONE season where the Knicks made the second round led to years of missing the playoffs and realized he couldn't build a "super team." It was time to do a FULL rebuild.

It's not easy to stomach and the risks are there. However the Knicks need to stop trying to cheat, sneak in a playoff run. Building a team is more than just putting talent on the table. They have to GROW together.

[Dr. Detfink]

I'm excited if the Knicks get Frank...actually whoever the Knicks draft. I just want the damn draft over. I want to look forward to the Knick players working out, working together, and growing together.

[Fat]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

I think he"ll be a sg that's capable of being the secondary playmaker. Which is still great the knicks could use iq, defense and unsefishness in the back court.

[Handledatruth]

Trying to understand why people think the best pure shooter in the draft is going to be sitting around at 15. Kennard - Mitchell more likely than Frank - Kennard...assuming we can even get that 15th pick

Kennard may be the best shooter but he literally cannot do anything else to benefit an NBA team. He cannot defend or create. He is a bench player at best. Not a 11st rounder IMO.

Look at Jimmer. A fantastic shooter and he can even create some yet he's in China because he can't defend.

Kennard can definitely create. That is actually one stronger elements of his game. He is a very crafty passer and has excellent vision. Jimmer is a poor comp. Kennard has great height for a SG at 6'6", where Jimmer is a SG in a PG's body. Kennard falls short in the defensive length department as he has a short wingspan.

Luke has the build and measurables of an Allan Houston(although admittedly I'm struggling to find Allan Houston's vert). If he's Allan Houston-like, that is a pretty good pick at 8. People thinking JJ Reddick or Jimmer forget that these guys are short 2 guards. Luke has the build of your prototype shooting guard. Not saying he's our pick since another great shooter will probably be on the board (Monk), but I wouldn't be mad.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3913174/luke-kennard
http://www.thedraftreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1237&Itemid=5

[F N 11]

He smoking fools with his defense.

We have a winner. Nicotine it is...although I still have a soft spot for Lickintina.

Do you mean Lickinass?

[xNewYorkMadex]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

Frank can play the Kidd/Prigs/Shump roles in our Atlantic Division Champs 54-win team.

Yea the Kidd/Prigs role seems to fit him better. Being the secondary playmaker on the floor.

Im not saying I dont want Frank, his defense and shooting are definitely intriguing. But I just dont know or see him having big time success running the offense all the time. Watching the Warriors play, its always good to have multiple playmakers on the floor. So adding Frank into the mix will be just fine, but I think playing him more at SG will get the most out of him and the team. He can probably break down the defense more when a bigger SG is guarding him.

[Lord Commander]

He smoking fools with his defense.

We have a winner. Nicotine it is...although I still have a soft spot for Lickintina.

Do you mean Lickinass?

Nah...

[King of Canada]

I'm excited if the Knicks get Frank...actually whoever the Knicks draft. I just want the damn draft over. I want to look forward to the Knick players working out, working together, and growing together.

Just think, less than two weeks after the draft is Orlando Summer league!

[EricAnderson]

It would be pretty freaking awesome if we drafted Ntilikina at 8 and acquired pick 15 to select Kennard as well.

Then acquire a mid 2nd round pick. Let's say 48. Select Frank Mason at 44, Sindarius Thornwell at 48, and Nigel Hayes at 58.

Ntilikina
Kennard
Mason
Thornwell
Hayes

#BUILDING

Trying to understand why people think the best pure shooter in the draft is going to be sitting around at 15. Kennard - Mitchell more likely than Frank - Kennard...assuming we can even get that 15th pick

Kennard may be the best shooter but he literally cannot do anything else to benefit an NBA team. He cannot defend or create. He is a bench player at best. Not a 11st rounder IMO.

Look at Jimmer. A fantastic shooter and he can even create some yet he's in China because he can't defend.

Kennards 6'6 Jimmer was barely over 6 feet

[david_james]

From Rotoworld:

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Knicks are "seriously considering" taking Luke Kennard with their first-round pick.

I'm not so sure about how I feel about this. Is there a board consensus on how people view Kennard going forward?

[nykgeneralmanager]

I can't believe how focused people are on positions. Did anybody just watch the NBA finals? And you're worried whether Isaac is a "skinny 4" or Frank is better at PG or SG? Wake up, people. The game is about getting players with length, guys who can both shoot and defend, and can defend up to 3 positions.

The only logical picks are Isaac and Ntilikina. Stop this nonsense about guys like Smith and Monk.

[shtolky]

From Rotoworld:

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Knicks are "seriously considering" taking Luke Kennard with their first-round pick.

I'm not so sure about how I feel about this. Is there a board consensus on how people view Kennard going forward?

I stopped at "ESPN's Chad Ford." Kennard is this year's Lyles, Cauley-Stein, Kaminsky, Payne, etc. No chance in hell Kennard goes 8.

[mpharris36]

From Rotoworld:

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Knicks are "seriously considering" taking Luke Kennard with their first-round pick.

I'm not so sure about how I feel about this. Is there a board consensus on how people view Kennard going forward?

not saying this is true, but less than a week leading up to the draft you will start to hear a lot of posturing and fake news out there by teams. They don't want to tip there hand.

[Fury]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

I think he"ll be a sg that's capable of being the secondary playmaker. Which is still great the knicks could use iq, defense and unsefishness in the back court.

He will improve his handle and easily be a PG

[Jay10]

From Rotoworld:

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Knicks are "seriously considering" taking Luke Kennard with their first-round pick.

I'm not so sure about how I feel about this. Is there a board consensus on how people view Kennard going forward?

Chad is trolling one last time before he is no longer at ESPN, since he was one of the many, who were released a few weeks ago.

These people that do mock drafts can only guarantee the #1 picks, and after that they are guessing like everyone else.

[F N 11]

If Isaac falls do you take him over Frank? Then again this question is pointless because i see he wont work out for teams past 4.

[j4remi]

From Rotoworld:

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Knicks are "seriously considering" taking Luke Kennard with their first-round pick.

I'm not so sure about how I feel about this. Is there a board consensus on how people view Kennard going forward?

not saying this is true, but less than a week leading up to the draft you will start to hear a lot of posturing and fake news out there by teams. They don't want to tip there hand.

Agents too, I'd bet. Trying to leak whatever they can to get teams attention or provoke a reach pick.

[eagle54]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

Stop with that. He's a pure PG, so let him in PG position. And is not as slow as people think because they watch 5 min highlights...
And even if too slow, IQ can help hom to more anticipate ...

[Fat]

Is Ntlikina really suited to play PG in the NBA?

I dont know. I think he may have more success as a SG. Not in love with him being the primary handler. Dont love his 1st step or handle like that. I would feel more comfortable drafting him if we played him at SG and acquire/draft another PG down the line.

I think he"ll be a sg that's capable of being the secondary playmaker. Which is still great the knicks could use iq, defense and unsefishness in the back court.

He will improve his handle and easily be a PG

He"s got work to do at the NBA level it might be best to slide him at the 2 for now until that happens and if you want to play him pg at least have another guy next to him that can make plays.