Knicks sign Hardaway

newyorker4ever · Post #1941 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:21 pm

Whether we like it or not, i think this THJ move makes it more likely that we'd take R.Anderson back in a Melo trade. I just hope if we do that we get at least one good asset to come our way with him whether it's a draft pick or a young player.

Greenie · Post #1942 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:22 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
he guarded the perimeter players more than Tobias harris.

Harris played KP when they played us Morris played melo...you are not correct.

When John Leaur started Morris played SF too

Tweener.

SF/PF

correct but with Horford at the 5 its a horrible front court in terms of interior defense and rebounding.

What happened?

eagle54 · Post #1943 » by **eagle54** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:22 pm

Scalabrine wrote:Wish we made that offer to KCP now that he's likely out of Detroit.

Maybe if we cannot did an offer for tim, we could try to land KCP... :noway:

Tron Carter · Post #1944 » by **Tron Carter** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:22 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
he guarded the perimeter players more than Tobias harris.

Harris played KP when they played us Morris played melo...you are not correct.

When John Leaur started Morris played SF too

Tweener.

SF/PF

correct but with Horford at the 5 its a horrible front court in terms of interior defense and rebounding.

Horford don't even wanna play the 5

Greenie · Post #1945 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:23 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Jay10 wrote:

Not even Derrick Rose could've stopped him from getting his if he was on the roster last season.

That right there is what I need from KP.
No one can stop you from getting yours.

Watch on YouTube

Yasssssssssss

IllmaticHandler · Post #1946 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:23 pm

god shammgod wrote:and........we're back......the sequel is never as great as the original but here we are

How were you Hoodwinked. That would mean that you thought Mills was going to be great at his job :lol:

Post #1947 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:23 pm

Greenie wrote:What happened?

they just trade avery bradley for marcus morris straight up to shed enough salary for Hayward.

Right now they look like this

IT3
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford

I can't say thats better than

IT3
Bradley
Crowder
(revolving door)
Horford

to be honest...did the celtics get that much better?

newyorker4ever · Post #1948 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:23 pm

Mecca wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I'd change one thing -- THj's best position may be the 3, not 2.

No way. Dude is 6'5 and not strong enough for the 3.

D.Dotson played the 3 at Houston so i could see him playing a lot of SF for us with L.Thomas and Kuz getting some as well.

boomann21 · Post #1949 » by **boomann21** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:24 pm

god shammgod wrote:and........we're back......the sequel is never as great as the original but here we are

Watch on YouTube

Well I wouldn't say that. I liked Aliens 2 way more than the first one.

Post #1950 » by **dakomish23** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:24 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
MP4LIFE wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:The PJax defenders are having a field day, but let's compare his big signing last summer to the one Mills just made as they got the same contract:

Noah played 29 games the season before
THJ played 79 games the season before

Noah lost his starting job on a non playoff team
THJ gained the starting job on a playoff team

Noah was coming off a year of career low scoring and shooting
THJ was coming off a year of career high scoring and shooting

Noah was coming in to start over a young prospect
THJ is coming in to start over an older player

Noah was 31 when he signed
THJ was 25 when he signed

I'm not defending the signing. I would of stopped at 14 per, IF I was even interested in signing THJ, which I wasn't. But using this to boost PJax is ridiculous.

This is not a soapbox

If your best argument is that this signing isn't as bad as the worst contract in the league then you have a poor argument.

Then you misunderstood the entire argument

I said this move is not a reason to praise PJax

That's it. I even said I'm NOT defending the signing. See bold.

No response?

Post #1951 » by **GONYK** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:24 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:Whether we like it or not, i think this THJ move makes it more likely that we'd take R.Anderson back in a Melo trade. I just hope if we do that we get at least one good asset to come our way with him whether it's a draft pick or a young player.

What does one have to do with the other?

robillionaire · Post #1952 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:24 pm

If we dump Lee to take on a younger better player like THJ it could be worth the extra 5-6 million a year that he will make more than lee does now

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #1953 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:24 pm

I'm sure Timmy's defense will continue to improve after getting paid and with the great Jeff Hornacek and Kurt Rambis here to teach and guide him

his game will take off here in NY, no doubt

Greenie · Post #1954 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:25 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Greenie wrote:What happened?

they just trade avery bradley for marcus morris straight up to shed enough salary for Hayward.

Right now they look like this

IT3
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford

I can't say thats better than

IT3
Bradley
Crowder
(revolving door)
Horford

to be honest...did the celtics get that much better?

They are a trash team to me.

Post #1955 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:25 pm

Mecca wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I'd change one thing -- THj's best position may be the 3, not 2.

No way. Dude is 6'5 and not strong enough for the 3.

D is banned in the NBA. His game is more SF-ish. Then again his assists were much better than I expected. Just under 3 at only 27 MPG.

EDIT: 2.3 assists. My bad.

E-Balla · Post #1956 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:25 pm

Mecca wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Mecca wrote:Ntlikina
THJ
Doncic / Porter / Bridges
KP
Willy

Am I wrong for loving that starting 5?

Nah.

- 4/5 of our starting lineup is 25 and under next year.
- THJ compliments Ntlikina in every way. More of the aggressor with scorers mentality.
- Makes Ntlikina pick even more brilliant. Ntlikina takes the tougher assignment for the next 5 years.
- Next year is a wing heavy draft. Address the 3 next year.

Next year isn't that wing heavy imo (I'm not feeling Porter really) but Tim can run the 3 when we get Hami in the draft. I've been watching the U19s and he's killing it. Handles are way improved from before he went to KU.

Mecca · Post #1957 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:26 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
Mecca wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I'd change one thing -- THj's best position may be the 3, not 2.

No way. Dude is 6'5 and not strong enough for the 3.

D is banned in the NBA. His game is more SF-ish. Then again his assists were much better than I expected. Just under 3 at only 27 MPG.

D is not 'banned' in the NBA and nothing about his game is more SF-ish. Positions are trite in the NBA.

robillionaire · Post #1958 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:26 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Greenie wrote:What happened?

they just trade avery bradley for marcus morris straight up to shed enough salary for Hayward.

Right now they look like this

IT3
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford

I can't say thats better than

IT3
Bradley
Crowder
(revolving door)
Horford

to be honest...did the celtics get that much better?

Not really a lot better for next season, but they will get better and better over time as Tatum and their other picks develop

bigfnjoe96 · Post #1959 » by **bigfnjoe96** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:26 pm

People hating on the "Young Gunner" get this all day.....

god shammgod · Post #1960 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:26 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
god shammgod wrote:and........we're back......the sequel is never as great as the original but here we are

How were you Hoodwinked. That would mean that you thought Mills was going to be great at his job

i thought he was gonna be smart enough to just hold the fort until the next guy was hired. steve never had to do anything. he could keep this job forever and just watch other people f*ck up. now he put himself on the clock with this move. this man don't even understand job preservation.