Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7

Iron Mantis · Post #1941 » by **Iron Mantis** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:01 pm

Trash deal.

vallen · Post #1942 » by **vallen** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:02 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
You don't know that.

Fine... I do not know that. But to say likely one year deal is wrong.

Rather...

It is very likely he is.

You guys can shred me if he doesn't next summer, but save the BS.

What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

BeagleBoss wrote:Kanter, at his age, potential and contract, is without a doubt the best you could have done in a trade. I have no complaints. I was expecting a lot worse!

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Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

hes garbage ? but he can get a lot of money on the open market ?

ya that makes sense. :roll:

3toheadmelo · Post #1943 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:03 pm

K-DOT wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:Greatest Anime Eva......

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

That's a weird way to spell Avatar the last Airbender

ive yet to finish legend of korra

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1944 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:03 pm

vallen wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Fine... I do not know that. But to say likely one year deal is wrong.

Rather...

It is very likely he is.

You guys can shred me if he doesn't next summer, but save the BS.

What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

BeagleBoss wrote:Kanter, at his age, potential and contract, is without a doubt the best you could have done in a trade. I have no complaints. I was expecting a lot worse!

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Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

hes garbage ? but he can get a lot of money on the open market ?

ya that makes sense.

It makes sense when you realize that bad players still get paid. Him opting out of 19 mill to try and get 60 is not out of the question at all.

Oscirus · Post #1945 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:04 pm

I'm still of the opinion that we could've gotten something if we waited until the trade deadline and we ultimately got close to nothing.

That being said OKC didn't rob us as much as the world seems to think that they did either. Melo's aging and thats still a bad contract no matter how you spin it.

Post #1946 » by **DOT** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:05 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:Greatest Anime Eva......

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

That's a weird way to spell Avatar the last Airbender

ive yet to finish legend of korra

Got through the first 2 seasons, never really cared to watch it after that

It's mad overrated, people have too much nostalgia for the original show

Captain_Caveman · Post #1947 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:05 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
FutureKnicksGM wrote:
GTFO with your trash

That's what Bulls, Pacers and Kings fans said before trading their stars for less than half of what Ainge had offered them only a year before.

The teams have had regular dialogue on KP this summer, btw. That doesn't mean it will get to the next level, and it probably won't, but don't be surprised if it does. It's almost certainly the other shoe that Ainge was coyly hinting at in his conference call the night the Kyrie trade broke. FWIW, your coach is old school and thinks KP is a primadonna, and your front office doesn't think he is as good as KP thinks he is. For his part, KP would love to get dealt, as he has no confidence in the franchise whatsoever. Take it or leave it. Don't care.

Seriously, just leave. You're not doing anything besides starting problems here and posters are not happy with it. You're free to have your own opinion, but you a) don't know "the teams have had regular dialogue on KP this summer" and you also don't know what Ainge was hinting at - that's just you speculating. In addition, Horny likely won't be here past this year so what he wants is irrelevant (in addition to him only being a coach). You also don't know jack **** about how KP feels, so, again, this is you just speculating based on nothing - this probably was true when Phil was here, but he's not anymore.

So, here's your warning - leave and stop trolling, or be suspended.

Was talking basketball rationally, but OK. I do know the teams are talking, though. Dialogue about players doesn't mean much until it does, and not reporting it as such. Teams can talk for years about a player and have nothing come of it. Feel free to search my post history. Only other rumor you will see from me is talking about KD to the Warriors several months in advance.

But anyhow, I will go. Good luck.

PeoplesChamp · Post #1948 » by **PeoplesChamp** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:06 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
vallen wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

hes garbage ? but he can get a lot of money on the open market ?

ya that makes sense.

It makes sense when you realize that bad players still get paid. Him opting out of 19 mill to try and get 60 is not out of the question at all.

Whether he does or not, it's still better than Anderson's money, age & skill.

3toheadmelo · Post #1949 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:09 pm

K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
K-DOT wrote:That's a weird way to spell Avatar the last Airbender

ive yet to finish legend of korra

Got through the first 2 seasons, never really cared to watch it after that

It's mad overrated, people have too much nostalgia for the original show

yeah i stopped watching after the first two seasons too
my brother saw the whole thing though and told me it got really intense. he kept on begging me to watch the rest of the show. so i guess it got better later on

shtolky · Post #1950 » by **shtolky** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:10 pm

will34 wrote:Knicks front office writes blogs preaching defense and hard work and then 2 days later trade for Kanter. The incompetence is astounding. Perry and Mills are jokes.

A team can preach defense and hard work and not have every single member of the team be a good defender. I guess we should have traded for Ryan Anderson and his 60m dollar contract.

Poetry-In-Motion · Post #1951 » by **Poetry-In-Motion** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:10 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
You don't know that.

Fine... I do not know that. But to say likely one year deal is wrong.

Rather...

It is very likely he is.

You guys can shred me if he doesn't next summer, but save the BS.

What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

BeagleBoss wrote:Kanter, at his age, potential and contract, is without a doubt the best you could have done in a trade. I have no complaints. I was expecting a lot worse!

Sent from my SM-T530NU using RealGM mobile app

Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

Yes it is far out there. You might want to look at the recent big men of just this offseason who are all muccccchhh better than Kanter. Ask Greg Monroe who had to opt in to his deal. Ask what Patterson got as a UFA.

To think Kanter is going to opt out of a $19M deal I find funny. By the way, it is not like he is risking a long term deal after... he will likely opt in and become a UFA when he is 26 (still young) for whatever he can get. He is NOT (likely not just so nobody gets triggered) opting out of that deal.

We can agree to disagree... but I refuse to waste further time on this that I find to be fairly obvious.

SpikJagger · Post #1952 » by **SpikJagger** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:10 pm

Since this is the official nyk anime thread now can we talk about that new Neo Yokio on netflix?

I've only seen the first episode and thought overall it was pretty "meh" but i'm a slutty designer fashionista and love all the fashion references so i'ma keep watching. Also, voiced by Jaden Smith, so there's that..

shtolky · Post #1953 » by **shtolky** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:12 pm

Pharmcat wrote:the knicks fo writes a blog preaching D, yet they get guys who cant play D at all in the trade. Just more hoodwinking from the fo. Also, if melo was so terrible, why were other stars recruiting him like damian/mcollum and westbrook/PG? The anti melo hatred has gotten so strong to even see how terrible of a deal this was

Because those teams knew they wouldn't have to give up much to get him...you know, the 33 year old declining player with 2 years 54m left on his deal who plays no defense and is an ISO player.

As someone who says the deal is so terrible, what would you have done? Anderson? Harkless? Turner? And don't say we should have gotten a first rounder because a player like Melo in this situation does NOT get you a first.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1954 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:12 pm

Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Fine... I do not know that. But to say likely one year deal is wrong.

Rather...

It is very likely he is.

You guys can shred me if he doesn't next summer, but save the BS.

What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

BeagleBoss wrote:Kanter, at his age, potential and contract, is without a doubt the best you could have done in a trade. I have no complaints. I was expecting a lot worse!

Sent from my SM-T530NU using RealGM mobile app

Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

Yes it is far out there. You might want to look at the recent big men of just this offseason who are all muccccchhh better than Kanter. Ask Greg Monroe who had to opt in to his deal. Ask what Patterson got as a UFA.

To think Kanter is going to opt out of a $19M deal I find funny. By the way, it is not like he is risking a long term deal after... he will likely opt in and become a UFA when he is 26 (still young) for whatever he can get. He is NOT (likely not just so nobody gets triggered) opting out of that deal.

We can agree to disagree... but I refuse to waste further time on this that I find to be fairly obvious.

Ok, enjoy your night.

Poetry-In-Motion · Post #1955 » by **Poetry-In-Motion** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:13 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Poetry-In-Motion wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
What BS? He's 25 and could make a lot of money on the open market, even if he is incredibly flawed. It's not that far out there that he'd opt out of a 19 million dollar deal to cash in on a larger / longer one.

Potential? He is what he is - a one way player. You do realize he is garbage, right?

Yes it is far out there. You might want to look at the recent big men of just this offseason who are all muccccchhh better than Kanter. Ask Greg Monroe who had to opt in to his deal. Ask what Patterson got as a UFA.

To think Kanter is going to opt out of a $19M deal I find funny. By the way, it is not like he is risking a long term deal after... he will likely opt in and become a UFA when he is 26 (still young) for whatever he can get. He is NOT (likely not just so nobody gets triggered) opting out of that deal.

We can agree to disagree... but I refuse to waste further time on this that I find to be fairly obvious.

Ok, enjoy your night.

You too brother. Nothing is definite of course. But we are on two different ends for this.

Rooster8 · Post #1956 » by **Rooster8** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:13 pm

Well the deal is so-so. I guess that 2nd rd pick will be early in the 2nd since Chicago may be the worst team in the league this year.
At the end of the day I think we win 28-35 games and end up with the 5th pick in the 1st round.

god shammgod · Post #1957 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:15 pm

nobody cared enough to post this

Read on Twitter

Oscirus · Post #1958 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:15 pm

shtolky wrote:
will34 wrote:Knicks front office writes blogs preaching defense and hard work and then 2 days later trade for Kanter. The incompetence is astounding. Perry and Mills are jokes.

A team can preach defense and hard work and not have every single member of the team be a good defender. I guess we should have traded for Ryan Anderson and his 60m dollar contract.

Or we didn't have to trade him at all till either we got a better haul or he opted out.

Oscirus · Post #1959 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:16 pm

god shammgod wrote:nobody cared enough to post this

Read on Twitter

The Knicks are getting whiter and whiter

shtolky · Post #1960 » by **shtolky** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:20 pm

Oscirus wrote:
shtolky wrote:
will34 wrote:Knicks front office writes blogs preaching defense and hard work and then 2 days later trade for Kanter. The incompetence is astounding. Perry and Mills are jokes.

A team can preach defense and hard work and not have every single member of the team be a good defender. I guess we should have traded for Ryan Anderson and his 60m dollar contract.

Or we didn't have to trade him at all till either we got a better haul or he opted out.

No guarantee Melo opts out. He has shown he values money over most anything. Not sure he leaves 28m on the table for one season when he doesnt get close to that on the open market. Keeping him on a team with young guys we are trying to develop is counterproductive, and he hurts the tank. We are clearly going after a top 5 pick in this draft. His presence hinders that. Lastly, you assume we would get a better haul...when? From who? The three teams he seemed willing to go to would suddenly add...what? To add no long term salary, to get a top 35 pick, and to FINALLY move in the direction of youth...not sure how anyone can be pissed at this move. When people are furious over not getting Alex Abrines or whatever, you have to wonder if any trade would have been met with this type of reaction.