2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[KnixinSix]

To pull off big trades you need big contracts, there has to be salary ballast. Once we dump Fournier we won’t have any of these contracts unless we want to trade Hart or Dvo which will piss off Jalen and be bad for team morale.

It’s important to get a player WITH Dejounte if we trade for him. I would target Bey and re-sign him so we have his contract to use in a future trade as well. Maybe like 15M a season?

Nice and Bey would give us a backup wing...but now I'm hearing that if the Hawks get Siakim, Murray isn't going anywhere.

Where?

[KnixinSix]

To pull off big trades you need big contracts, there has to be salary ballast. Once we dump Fournier we won’t have any of these contracts unless we want to trade Hart or Dvo which will piss off Jalen and be bad for team morale.

It’s important to get a player WITH Dejounte if we trade for him. I would target Bey and re-sign him so we have his contract to use in a future trade as well. Maybe like 15M a season?

Nice and Bey would give us a backup wing...but now I'm hearing that if the Hawks get Siakim, Murray isn't going anywhere.

Where?

[cgf]

To pull off big trades you need big contracts, there has to be salary ballast. Once we dump Fournier we won’t have any of these contracts unless we want to trade Hart or Dvo which will piss off Jalen and be bad for team morale.

It’s important to get a player WITH Dejounte if we trade for him. I would target Bey and re-sign him so we have his contract to use in a future trade as well. Maybe like 15M a season?

Nice and Bey would give us a backup wing...but now I'm hearing that if the Hawks get Siakim, Murray isn't going anywhere.

Where?

Read on Twitter

Snippets:

The Raptors are a tough team to deal with. Ujiri and this front office have always maintained high standards when it comes to the trade deadline, which is why there are some rival teams who feel as if the Raptors look to take advantage of them.

“First of all, that team is always setting the price extremely high on their players, sometimes to the point that makes you laugh,” one Eastern Conference executive shared with ClutchPoints. “Obviously, you always want to try and get the most for your players, that's the nature of the game. At some point, you have to be willing to budge and actually negotiate instead of saying, ‘This is our price, take it or leave it.' Over the years, everything has seemed pretty one-sided when talking trades with them.”

As of right now, the general belief around the league is that the Raptors are looking for two players who can fit in with their rotation right away, along with two future first-round picks.....

If Siakam goes to the Hawks, Murray would not be going anywhere. This is where things can become confusing, especially since the Knicks do not necessarily have the assets to blow the Hawks away in an offer for Murray at this time.....

The Hawks are in a position where they can be both buyers and sellers at the trade deadline this season. Pursuing Siakam remains the focus in Atlanta, leading many to suggest that Murray will not be going anywhere in the coming weeks.....

The fact of the matter is the Hawks have had no plans of losing Murray and envision him being a factor in the team's growth alongside Young. 

[stuporman]

I just listened to a couple minutes of screaming A smiff totally miss the point of the OG trade. The guy is all bluster and no brains, literally can't see anything past his own short-sighted opinion and is a complete prisoner of the moment.

He's no different than what we find out of a fan on social media, I want my 3 minutes back. Who the eff actually watches that know nothing so ESPN believes he's worth the salary? He should have been one of the firings in that wave a few months back.

/vent over

[stuporman]

At this rate Bridges won't even cost a single unprotected pick let alone the half dozen they were hoping for.

[Knicksfan1992]

Rozier is having a helluva season and would be perfect for a Thibs coached team. I can talk myself into him for a 1st. Kind of guy who can get hot and win you a playoff game or 2 you have no business winning. Averaging 23 and 7 on 46/37/85 splits.

His contract is

23.2 this year
24.9
26.6

Someone to monitor for the Fournier contract

[spree2kawhi]

I just listened to a couple minutes of screaming A smiff totally miss the point of the OG trade. The guy is all bluster and no brains, literally can't see anything past his own short-sighted opinion and is a complete prisoner of the moment.

He's no different than what we find out of a fan on social media, I want my 3 minutes back. Who the eff actually watches that know nothing so ESPN believes he's worth the salary? He should have been one of the firings in that wave a few months back.

/vent over

He has always been the worst.

[spree2kawhi]

At this rate Bridges won't even cost a single unprotected pick let alone the half dozen they were hoping for.

Which one? If Miles, I’m gone.

[spree2kawhi]

Woj just said a trade for a player with a big contract a team may like but have to move on from so they can get ahead of the new apron.

Off the top of my head since I've been following which teams that is close or over the 2nd apron.

Wolves (over) - even without signing Conley to a new deal
Suns (way over) - they are so over, their whole bench will be vet minimums
Lakers (close) - if Lebron opts out or takes less AAV then Lakers will be fine
Blazers (close) - too many vet contracts + don't forget that they will be drafting a top 4 rookie which will take them over the apron
Warriors (close) - if they sign Klay to 30+ million contract they will be over
Celtics (way over) - Jrue will pick up his option. If not, he will sign with less AAV but they will still be over
Bucks (close) - just a few million shy of going over. Want to see what they will do with Beasley
Clippers (depends) - if they re-sign all 3.. way over. If sign Leonard and PG they should be fine

We need to get Jerami Grant.

[stuporman]

At this rate Bridges won't even cost a single unprotected pick let alone the half dozen they were hoping for.

Which one? If Miles, I’m gone.

Which one do you think was getting a multiple unprotected first round picks demand from their team?

[spree2kawhi]

KAT at 36 now but it jumps to 52/56/60 and the 64 the 4 years after that.....he is quite possibly the guy Woj is hinting at that a team likes but needs to move on from for salary cap purposes.....

Knicks salary cap shape is one of the few teams looking to buy which has enough space to absorb that hit.

NOT saying I would do this but Randle left CAA and KAT is CAA , a local boy, a much better personality and has been long linked to Leon Rose and us in rumors.....

Would it be something like.....

KAT (36M) and Naz Reid (12M) for Robinson (15M), Randle (28M) , Flynn (3.8M)

Murray (23M) for Fournier (18M) + Precious (4.4M)+ 2FRPs


Rotation (Minutes):

C I-Hart (23), KAT (13), Naz Reid (12)
PF KAT (21),Reid (17),OG (10)
SF OG (23), Hart(20), Precious (5)
SG Murray (18), DDV (20), Hart (10)
PG Brunson (34), Murray (12), DDV (2)

Woj was talking about a team that will make a move during the deadline to jumpstart and get away from the apron. No way are the Wolves trading KAT this deadline. They are the # 1 team in the West and they are doing alright.

So it's identifying a bad or borderline playoffs team with a large contract player

Minnesota might be better with Randle than with KAT because of Randle’s speed. The lakers and AD are one of the teams. Miami is another, Butler or Adebayo, both non-shooters. Indiana might flip Turner and Buddy, don’t know if they qualify. Cleveland and Mitchell have been all the talk anyway - they’re going nowhere. The same cannot be said about Brooklyn and Mikal bridges or Cam Johnson, but they have Ben Simmons unfortunately. Their roster looks alright other than him and they should hold on to what they are building there. Chicago clearly needs to blow it up. LaVine is too bad of a defender for my taste, DeRozan a great player, but bad shooter, Vucevic simply great imo. I cannot imagine GSW trading us Klay Thompson for Fournier and I also cannot imagine any team re-upping Thompson at the amount he wants. Toronto and Siakam are still there. I can’t imagine us getting him and, while I like him a lot, he has been shooting 26% from three…… I don’t see much else there. Atlanta’s Capela and Murray.

[G_K_F]

Rozier is having a helluva season and would be perfect for a Thibs coached team. I can talk myself into him for a 1st. Kind of guy who can get hot and win you a playoff game or 2 you have no business winning. Averaging 23 and 7 on 46/37/85 splits.

His contract is

23.2 this year
24.9
26.6

Someone to monitor for the Fournier contract

A first for Rozier is a no brainer as long as it’s one of the worse ones. First and a couple 2nds, Fournier and Sims or some **** like that. I’d do it.

[spree2kawhi]

Rozier is having a helluva season and would be perfect for a Thibs coached team. I can talk myself into him for a 1st. Kind of guy who can get hot and win you a playoff game or 2 you have no business winning. Averaging 23 and 7 on 46/37/85 splits.

His contract is

23.2 this year
24.9
26.6

Someone to monitor for the Fournier contract

A first for Rozier is a no brainer as long as it’s one of the worse ones. First and a couple 2nds, Fournier and Sims or some **** like that. I’d do it.

You could also go and get a Melton, Seth Curry or Jordan Clarkson instead. The latter is on a front-loaded contract and will earn 11-12 million less than the undersized Rozier every year over the same duration of his contract. Undersized scoring is nothing I would pay up for anymore. Simply playing Fournier is an option too.

[spree2kawhi]

Some very wild thoughts:

Holiday, White, Tatum, Randle, Porzingis

Harden, Powell, Kawhi, Randle, Zubac

Beal, Allen/Gordon, Durant, Randle, Nurkic

D’Lo, Reaves, LeBron, Randle, Mitch

Fox, Huerter, Duarte, Randle, Sabonis

[thebuzzardman]

If these warning signs are true about Murray, and there seems to be enough smoke, then a choice among:

Brogdan - correct salary for future, size, plays PG

Clarkson - smaller contract, some mercurial scoring off the bench

Rozier - might lack height but makes shots, is a PG, contract similar to Fournier & Brogdan, is kind of what everyone hopes IQ will be, but he is, only have to pay him to be that for 2 more years IF stuck with him (assuming he gets flipped)

[shmeakone]

Rozier is having a helluva season and would be perfect for a Thibs coached team. I can talk myself into him for a 1st. Kind of guy who can get hot and win you a playoff game or 2 you have no business winning. Averaging 23 and 7 on 46/37/85 splits.

His contract is

23.2 this year
24.9
26.6

Someone to monitor for the Fournier contract

Oh no doubt, its either him or Clarkson for me. I think both will warrant more than one FRP unfortunately though.

[Adelheid]

Tyus Jones if was puts him on the block

[Ray Williams]

The player I’d love to get is Marcus Smart. Offer Fournier and pick(s).
Our defense would be insane .
Mitch… Hartenstein
Randle…OG
OG….Hart
Dante…Grimes
JB…Smart

Put a lineup of
Mitch
OG
Hart
Grimes
Smart
For stretches and the other the other may not score.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Anyone under 31 available? We aren’t winning a chip this year, Mitch is out and we got 2 1sts this year. Don’t see the point if it.
At least trade for a younger guy. Wonder if we could have given our 2 firsts, that 2nd and RJ and just kept Quick…

[Spree2Houston]

Just bring back JR Smith