Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[Deeeez Knicks]

Dead wrong about what?

I’ve only ever said his best position is SG or off ball c+s 3.


He’s not a pg. can’t initiate offense

Do people on here actually think he's a PG? I haven't seen anyone say that but i'm not in every thread going through every post. I'd still take him over DSJ.

yes


because the entire point of getting a backup PG isn't to replace McBrides minutes....


it's to put mcbride in offball c+s 3.


the entire point of DSJ is to play him next to mcbride

We don’t need DSJ for that. Just stagger Randle and Brunson so the offense is always running thru one of them.

[Capn'O]

Yep DSJ is just a low cost move. Nothing crazy. Haven't kept up with Joku but if i remember correctly he can handle the ball a bit too so I wouldn't mind him too.

I think Draftexpress said we're looking to move our picks. So there's that

If we do that I hope it's not just knee jerk. I can see us viewing the salary slots as liabilities THIS offseason... but there are a few guys in the 20s range who intrigue me and ostensibly fit our needs.

That said, I'm avoiding this draft like the plague in BAF and have barely watched a minute so who am I to talk in my defense I don't have scouts!

I think the urgency to win now is at an all time high for the Knicks so I think they're gonna punt the draft again for a vet. Shams recently said the Knicks are still looking to make that big move this summer. Probably going to try to package those picks for someone.

I have my pick in BAF but havent even scouted at all yet lol

It is high but unless we're talking about a high level complementary player I don't see the available player. They need to be clearly better than Randle. The Heat guys make sense but would Riley really pull the plug on Bam? Is Giannis more disgruntled than we're hearing?

[aggo]

Do people on here actually think he's a PG? I haven't seen anyone say that but i'm not in every thread going through every post. I'd still take him over DSJ.

yes


because the entire point of getting a backup PG isn't to replace McBrides minutes....


it's to put mcbride in offball c+s 3.


the entire point of DSJ is to play him next to mcbride

We don’t need DSJ for that. Just stagger Randle and Brunson so the offense is always running thru one of them.

any strategy that depends on randle succeeding is a failing one.

[Deeeez Knicks]

yes


because the entire point of getting a backup PG isn't to replace McBrides minutes....


it's to put mcbride in offball c+s 3.


the entire point of DSJ is to play him next to mcbride

We don’t need DSJ for that. Just stagger Randle and Brunson so the offense is always running thru one of them.

any strategy that depends on randle succeeding is a failing one.

That’s a bigger and different issue then. If true, we need to find a legit #2.

Basically every team staggers there best and 2nd/3rd best players. Otherwise, if we are depending on DSJ to play on the ball, make plays, run the offense, I don’t see that as a good strategy either. He hasnt been a good offensive player in the NBA. He can’t shoot and is undersized so pairing him next to Hart and Deuce off the bench doesn’t make sense

[DaGawd]

Is Frank still available?

funny thing is if dude just worked on being able to catch and shoot primarily and forget about any type of playmaking just be a good 3 and D guy.. he’s an ideal wing complement to og.. of course he’s also injury prone too tho

[Snacks]

Center depth candidate. I was wondering what happened to Christian Koloko

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[3toheadmelo]

If we do that I hope it's not just knee jerk. I can see us viewing the salary slots as liabilities THIS offseason... but there are a few guys in the 20s range who intrigue me and ostensibly fit our needs.

That said, I'm avoiding this draft like the plague in BAF and have barely watched a minute so who am I to talk in my defense I don't have scouts!

I think the urgency to win now is at an all time high for the Knicks so I think they're gonna punt the draft again for a vet. Shams recently said the Knicks are still looking to make that big move this summer. Probably going to try to package those picks for someone.

I have my pick in BAF but havent even scouted at all yet lol

It is high but unless we're talking about a high level complementary player I don't see the available player. They need to be clearly better than Randle. The Heat guys make sense but would Riley really pull the plug on Bam? Is Giannis more disgruntled than we're hearing?

I think it just depends on what type of star the Knicks are looking for. We've only seen them really go hard after Donovan Mitchell. They didn't go after Dejounte Murray, Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine. Woj did say we talked to the Sixers about Harden but it may have just been exploratory talks.

To sum it up.. I think they want someone of at least Donovan's caliber.

I actually do think Ingram can make that leap though if he is able to stay healthy. It's kinda rare a young long (pause) wing that can score and playmake at a high level becomes available. Those guys are usually untouchable.

[WargamesX]

I think the urgency to win now is at an all time high for the Knicks so I think they're gonna punt the draft again for a vet. Shams recently said the Knicks are still looking to make that big move this summer. Probably going to try to package those picks for someone.

I have my pick in BAF but havent even scouted at all yet lol

It is high but unless we're talking about a high level complementary player I don't see the available player. They need to be clearly better than Randle. The Heat guys make sense but would Riley really pull the plug on Bam? Is Giannis more disgruntled than we're hearing?

I think it just depends on what type of star the Knicks are looking for. We've only seen them really go hard after Donovan Mitchell. They didn't go after Dejounte Murray, Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine. Woj did say we talked to the Sixers about Harden but it may have just been exploratory talks.

To sum it up.. I think they want someone of at least Donovan's caliber.

I actually do think Ingram can make that leap though if he is able to stay healthy. It's kinda rare a young long (pause) wing that can score and playmake at a high level becomes available. Those guys are usually untouchable.

Ingram is a good player but he has definitely stalled with his development. He could definitely be a great second piece and from the way things are looking the pelicans should have a bidding war for his contract.

[Guano]

if the rockets are really serious about trading the 3rd pick for bridges .. mikal might be headed to houston if they nets are really about that slow build life

Rockets are super thirsty for him. If Mikal is to ever get traded, it's going to be to Houston. They already offered Jalen Green and picks. Knicks would have to give up mad assets to match what the Rockets are offerring.

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for sure.. and you couldn’t really even say it’s the nets overtaxing the knicks because of a some rivalry. the rockets just have legitimately more enticing offers for the nets than we do

If this is the case how are we ever getting another star?

[HarthorneWingo]

Yeah I was gonna say DSJ Stan … no I’m kidding. He has become very solid. I’ve actually watched the Nets a lot and not just recaps so I could see their intriguing, yet trash roster. I like Lonnie Walker and also Cam Johnson, but DSJ has become pretty impressive. Bridges is the one guy to get though. I won’t say no to Johnson, Walker, DSJ, Schroeder, Finney-Smith and/or Claxton, but it isn’t going to happen.

I have a feeling that a deal for Bridges will likely be done. Let’s hope we get somebody to go with him for all those picks it’ll cost.

Don’t let Melo brainwash you guys on DSJ. Deuce is ready better than him. DSJ shot 29% from 3 last season. He scored 6.6 points per game in 19 minutes/gm. What’s so impressive about that?

People see what a average player is doing on a horrific team and think he can do that on a good team but he can't and has proven that on more than one good team.

Exactly!

[KnixinSix]

I need someone to answer this though.

Who has Mikal ever locked up in the playoffs? I seen him get torched by Ingram and Luka while he was on the Suns.

There's actually a article about his defense falling off a cliff in the playoffs.
https://valleyofthesuns.com/2022/08/15/mikal-bridges-phoenix-suns-defense/

Those are the guys we have OG for. Mikal is better with shooting wings.

In any event, if the price is Randle+ it's a hard no from me.

We can agree here. I won't be against getting Mikal if the price is very cheap but the Nets want a major haul in return so I don't see any deal happening anytime soon.

Major haul can be more pick heavy than player heavy. McBride, Mitchell Robinson and 3FRPs for instance.

[KnixinSix]

Giannis is the guy you drop a bombshell offer for.

Randle, Mitch Rob, McBride (Lillard back up) and 4-5 FRPs. Nobody is touching that kind of offer. Milwaukee could actually still be pretty darn good with those players and Lillard next year.

You use Bogdanovic and picks for a point guard to back up Brunson.

Resign I Hart

[DaGawd]

Rockets are super thirsty for him. If Mikal is to ever get traded, it's going to be to Houston. They already offered Jalen Green and picks. Knicks would have to give up mad assets to match what the Rockets are offerring.

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for sure.. and you couldn’t really even say it’s the nets overtaxing the knicks because of a some rivalry. the rockets just have legitimately more enticing offers for the nets than we do

If this is the case how are we ever getting another star?

it’s def gonna take a star saying i want to be in ny more than anything imo. but with houston and brooklyn it’s a special circumstance since houston has something that’s more valuable to the nets than anything else which is their own picks a king with several promising young prospects they can bundle in a rebuilding package if the nets choose to go that route

[KnicksGadfly]

We don’t need DSJ for that. Just stagger Randle and Brunson so the offense is always running thru one of them.

any strategy that depends on randle succeeding is a failing one.

That’s a bigger and different issue then. If true, we need to find a legit #2.

Basically every team staggers there best and 2nd/3rd best players. Otherwise, if we are depending on DSJ to play on the ball, make plays, run the offense, I don’t see that as a good strategy either. He hasnt been a good offensive player in the NBA. He can’t shoot and is undersized so pairing him next to Hart and Deuce off the bench doesn’t make sense

We also don’t need to make the short guy the primary ball handler. That’s the old NBA. If we don’t believe in McBride’s pg abilities off the bench, the solution is not to sign another shorter guy and play him at PG and move McBride to SG but to look for someone who can run pg at another position.

[Guano]

for sure.. and you couldn’t really even say it’s the nets overtaxing the knicks because of a some rivalry. the rockets just have legitimately more enticing offers for the nets than we do

If this is the case how are we ever getting another star?

it’s def gonna take a star saying i want to be in ny more than anything imo. but with houston and brooklyn it’s a special circumstance since houston has something that’s more valuable to the nets than anything else which is their own picks a king with several promising young prospects they can bundle in a rebuilding package if the nets choose to go that route

Here is to hoping CAA can work their magic. Cause as great as Brunson is he, like every other star, needs a wing man.

[The Vo Show]

It is high but unless we're talking about a high level complementary player I don't see the available player. They need to be clearly better than Randle. The Heat guys make sense but would Riley really pull the plug on Bam? Is Giannis more disgruntled than we're hearing?

I think it just depends on what type of star the Knicks are looking for. We've only seen them really go hard after Donovan Mitchell. They didn't go after Dejounte Murray, Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine. Woj did say we talked to the Sixers about Harden but it may have just been exploratory talks.

To sum it up.. I think they want someone of at least Donovan's caliber.

I actually do think Ingram can make that leap though if he is able to stay healthy. It's kinda rare a young long (pause) wing that can score and playmake at a high level becomes available. Those guys are usually untouchable.

Ingram is a good player but he has definitely stalled with his development. He could definitely be a great second piece and from the way things are looking the pelicans should have a bidding war for his contract.

I haven't watched maybe more than 8 or 9 games with Ingram (excluding international play) but he doesn't ever seem dominant. Even when he's 'on' (in the games I watched, it happened maybe once or twice), he doesn't seem like he's taking over the game. It feels like he scores with so little impact.

Not sure what it is. I can see he's a good player since he doesn't really take bad shots, is a 3 level scorer and is in generally good positions. I know he wants to be a number 1 option but he doesn't play like a true number 1. Feels like a young pacers PG where everyone told him he needed to be a number 1 guy but in reality, he doesn't actually want to be that.

[Deeeez Knicks]

any strategy that depends on randle succeeding is a failing one.

That’s a bigger and different issue then. If true, we need to find a legit #2.

Basically every team staggers there best and 2nd/3rd best players. Otherwise, if we are depending on DSJ to play on the ball, make plays, run the offense, I don’t see that as a good strategy either. He hasnt been a good offensive player in the NBA. He can’t shoot and is undersized so pairing him next to Hart and Deuce off the bench doesn’t make sense

We also don’t need to make the short guy the primary ball handler. That’s the old NBA. If we don’t believe in McBride’s pg abilities off the bench, the solution is not to sign another shorter guy and play him at PG and move McBride to SG but to look for someone who can run pg at another position.

Exactly, we already have Hart off the bench who can push the ball and make plays. Bojan can score. It's actually a complimentary bench when we stagger in Brunson, Randle, OG, etc.

The other issue with DSJ is he isn't a good shooter.... With Hart and Mitch (or C) off the bench we can't afford another nonshooter. I can understand trying to add some offense to our bench but I don't even see how DSJ would help us offensively given that he's not a good offensive player

[treachery]

I think the urgency to win now is at an all time high for the Knicks so I think they're gonna punt the draft again for a vet. Shams recently said the Knicks are still looking to make that big move this summer. Probably going to try to package those picks for someone.

I have my pick in BAF but havent even scouted at all yet lol

It is high but unless we're talking about a high level complementary player I don't see the available player. They need to be clearly better than Randle. The Heat guys make sense but would Riley really pull the plug on Bam? Is Giannis more disgruntled than we're hearing?

I think it just depends on what type of star the Knicks are looking for. We've only seen them really go hard after Donovan Mitchell. They didn't go after Dejounte Murray, Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine. Woj did say we talked to the Sixers about Harden but it may have just been exploratory talks.

To sum it up.. I think they want someone of at least Donovan's caliber.

I actually do think Ingram can make that leap though if he is able to stay healthy. It's kinda rare a young long (pause) wing that can score and playmake at a high level becomes available. Those guys are usually untouchable.

Yeah, if we had a chance to get Ingram, that would be awesome. I don’t understand people being so down on him. I think a change of scenery here he would look fantastic next to Bronson.

I even heard one of these Youtubers, pretty well-known guy, saying they wouldn’t trade Randall for Ingram straight up. That would be highway robbery for us.

Randle is still a relatively toxic asset despite the accolades. Even if people thought Randle was better, it’s clear Ingraham is the better asset.

[Clyde_Style]

Giannis is the guy you drop a bombshell offer for.

Randle, Mitch Rob, McBride (Lillard back up) and 4-5 FRPs. Nobody is touching that kind of offer. Milwaukee could actually still be pretty darn good with those players and Lillard next year.

You use Bogdanovic and picks for a point guard to back up Brunson.

Resign I Hart

Giannis probably would be the # 1 target for this FO

The Bucks fizzled and they look ripe for a rebuild.

It comes down to what he wants. If Giannis wants out, expect the Knicks to be his primary suitor.

Giannis is the only player I would expect a mega-trade for. I don't think there is anyone else of that magnitude who could be on the move. He definitely could force his way out of MIL.

[Clyde_Style]

any strategy that depends on randle succeeding is a failing one.

That’s a bigger and different issue then. If true, we need to find a legit #2.

Basically every team staggers there best and 2nd/3rd best players. Otherwise, if we are depending on DSJ to play on the ball, make plays, run the offense, I don’t see that as a good strategy either. He hasnt been a good offensive player in the NBA. He can’t shoot and is undersized so pairing him next to Hart and Deuce off the bench doesn’t make sense

We also don’t need to make the short guy the primary ball handler. That’s the old NBA. If we don’t believe in McBride’s pg abilities off the bench, the solution is not to sign another shorter guy and play him at PG and move McBride to SG but to look for someone who can run pg at another position.

They really should try a Rokas-Deuce second unit backcourt. Could work