Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[dakomish23]

the knicks cannot take more money back then they send.

They make the same salary (my trade was with just picks & Payne)

The money is right but, why does PHX do it?

B/C they are cratering and will possibly look to blow it up.

[Jalen Bluntson]

They make the same salary (my trade was with just picks & Payne)

The money is right but, why does PHX do it?

B/C they are cratering and will possibly look to blow it up.

They will try to move Beal. Pretty sure they would want to keep Tyus in that scenario. I can't see them blowing it all up by this TDL. I would be shocked if that happened. Not sure they can tank right now with the assets they spent building that shyt show. Do they even have their own picks?

[nykballa2k4]

Suns fan here with a random question. Do you see any correlation of how the Suns are run now to how the Knicks were being run under Isiah Thomas? Big name brand offensive players that don’t fit well together, poor team chemistry, reckless spending in regards to the salary cap/luxury tax, coaching drama and just an overall losing & uninspiring vibe?

Oh this is 100% what I expected. Great talent, great drafts, bad crippling contracts, no assets, and pending doom knowing that multiple teams are going to enjoy your lotto picks. Bradley Beal was the most IT thing to do of all time.
Just wait for the Booker for Zion trade where Zion removes the weight clause from the contract...

[Jeffrey]

Suns fan here with a random question. Do you see any correlation of how the Suns are run now to how the Knicks were being run under Isiah Thomas? Big name brand offensive players that don’t fit well together, poor team chemistry, reckless spending in regards to the salary cap/luxury tax, coaching drama and just an overall losing & uninspiring vibe?

Oh this is 100% what I expected. Great talent, great drafts, bad crippling contracts, no assets, and pending doom knowing that multiple teams are going to enjoy your lotto picks. Bradley Beal was the most IT thing to do of all time.
Just wait for the Booker for Zion trade where Zion removes the weight clause from the contract...

This right here. Whatever star pops up.. Isiah has his smile on that star's ass like no other.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

They make the same salary (my trade was with just picks & Payne)

The money is right but, why does PHX do it?

B/C they are cratering and will possibly look to blow it up.

I was reacting to "our Frenchman" for Ty Jones and said the money didn't work for that. You said it did. It doesn't.

I didn't comment on your Payne trade.

[WaltFrazier]

Saw a piece today, maybe clickbait, saying Knicks could try for Cam Thomas. Probably not realistic but what a perfect 6'8 3-4 man to rotate in our frontcourt

[douggood]

Saw a piece today, maybe clickbait, saying Knicks could try for Cam Thomas. Probably not realistic but what a perfect 6'8 3-4 man to rotate in our frontcourt

you must mean cam johnson
and to make salaries work will have to be robinson, achiuwa and mcbride

[spree2kawhi]

Suns fan here with a random question. Do you see any correlation of how the Suns are run now to how the Knicks were being run under Isiah Thomas? Big name brand offensive players that don’t fit well together, poor team chemistry, reckless spending in regards to the salary cap/luxury tax, coaching drama and just an overall losing & uninspiring vibe?

Oh this is 100% what I expected. Great talent, great drafts, bad crippling contracts, no assets, and pending doom knowing that multiple teams are going to enjoy your lotto picks. Bradley Beal was the most IT thing to do of all time.
Just wait for the Booker for Zion trade where Zion removes the weight clause from the contract...

As a former point guard he should’ve known that piling up on ball-dominant players won’t improve the team. The Suns are stacked even without Beal. Imagine them with OG and Bridges instead Being who he is, however, he is too vain to learn from his mistakes.

[spree2kawhi]

Saw a piece today, maybe clickbait, saying Knicks could try for Cam Thomas. Probably not realistic but what a perfect 6'8 3-4 man to rotate in our frontcourt

you must mean cam johnson
and to make salaries work will have to be robinson, achiuwa and mcbride

Yup. Cam Johnson would be nice, but he should be out of reach, making 22.5 million. That is basically what Kessler and Sexton are making combined, which is why I keep bringing them up. Sexton provides what Cam Thomas does, plus defensive and overall intensity. Trading for Johnson leaves us without a center though and, as you pointed out, McBride likely needs to be included, too. That’s a non-starter for me. Trading for Thomas is a non-starter in itself because I’m glad we don’t have any ballhogs left.

[seren]

Will we get TJ Warren on a 10 day contract or something like that? We need someone Thibs will give time to.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks should trade for Cam Thomas, Cam Johnson and Cam Whitmore, play them with Cam Payne.

[KnicksGadfly]

Suns fan here with a random question. Do you see any correlation of how the Suns are run now to how the Knicks were being run under Isiah Thomas? Big name brand offensive players that don’t fit well together, poor team chemistry, reckless spending in regards to the salary cap/luxury tax, coaching drama and just an overall losing & uninspiring vibe?

Tbh, you have a bit of an upgraded version of the Isiah Thomas teams of Knicks past. Your players are way better than anything he got us, but you still have the same type of issue. For example, if it was Isiah Thomas from Knicks past, you'd probably have "talented" but inefficient guys who can't do much else like Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Poole, Demar DeRozan, Randle, Andrew Wiggins, Dejounte Murray, THJ, Enes Kanter, Jahlil Okafor, Obi Toppin, Bagley, etc. Then you might get one scrub who is kinda tall and lanky and is there to play defense but probably can't do much else...probably Frank or Ben Simmons.

So basically, what Isiah Thomas learned from his failures is that he needs to get better versions of score-first players, and not the importance of teamwork, defense, rebounding, etc. He also gave away your picks again lol...hot damn, how does this guy keep doing this?

[jvsimonetti0514]

Will we get TJ Warren on a 10 day contract or something like that? We need someone Thibs will give time to.

Think adding TJ makes us go over the second apron. Not sure if there’s any finagling, we can do to add to the roster

[sol537]

I think Deni from POR would be a great fit for us. I don't think they're looking to move him, but if they were, maybe a 3-way deal where we send Mitch to a 3rd team, then Kolek, Dadiet, the WAS 1st, and the rights to Rokas to POR for Deni... He's got a couple of years left on his very reasonable deal and would be the ideal 6th man to back-up PF, SF, and SG for 30+ minutes a game. If Thibs is only going to do an 8-man rotation, then we could use Deni for 30, Deuce for 22, and Precious for 12 to help the starters all stay under 37 minutes. Getting Deni puts us on the level of BOS, CLE, and OKC imo.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Will we get TJ Warren on a 10 day contract or something like that? We need someone Thibs will give time to.

Think adding TJ makes us go over the second apron. Not sure if there’s any finagling, we can do to add to the roster

I think there's a date late February where we can squeeze in another vet mini and stay under the apron. It has been mentioned on here a lot but, people seem to not see it. Other than that we cannot add anyone to the roster unless it's a trade for matching salary that's already here. The only other way to add a different player would be the two way contract shuffle I believe.

[knicksstuff]

what do you guys think of Mitch for Nick Richards and Cody martin? Adds some bodies to the bench that Thibs would probably trust. Hornets seem to be open to trading some of their guys for 2nd rounders

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Will we get TJ Warren on a 10 day contract or something like that? We need someone Thibs will give time to.

Think adding TJ makes us go over the second apron. Not sure if there’s any finagling, we can do to add to the roster

I think there's a date late February where we can squeeze in another vet mini and stay under the apron. It has been mentioned on here a lot but, people seem to not see it. Other than that we cannot add anyone to the roster unless it's a trade for matching salary that's already here. The only other way to add a different player would be the two way contract shuffle I believe.

24th February last time I checked.

Hmmm. Well, checking with the numbers currently on Spotrac I think I make it 28th February. Not sure what changed.

[Jalen Bluntson]

what do you guys think of Mitch for Nick Richards and Cody martin? Adds some bodies to the bench that Thibs would probably trust. Hornets seem to be open to trading some of their guys for 2nd rounders

It has been discussed multiple times.

If Mitch can ever stay healthy every trade people have suggested would be bad trades. So however much you trust Mitch is how much sense any trade makes basically.

Apparently, we need THREE starting level players off the bench for Thibs to make it to work. Starting level PG/Wing/C. HEALTHY Mitch would be one. Payne/Shamet need to be upgraded. Precious is added insurance. Deuce needs to stay healthy. He's not a good enough PG and he's too small for SF/SG duties. He's a 3&D bench combo guard. The rest of the bench doesn't matter. They won't play. That's probably why we have three projects as rookies and one injured kid we know nothing about.

Payne/Shamet are the weak links right now. That's my opinion. Upgrade them and we are a better team. How and for who? No idea. They only make vet minis.

[WaltFrazier]

Saw a piece today, maybe clickbait, saying Knicks could try for Cam Thomas. Probably not realistic but what a perfect 6'8 3-4 man to rotate in our frontcourt

you must mean cam johnson
and to make salaries work will have to be robinson, achiuwa and mcbride

I do get them mixed up. Yeah Cam Johnson the 6'8 guy not the 6'3 gunner. I didn't realize he makes that much, to equal those 3 Knicks salaries, wow. Never mind.

There must be a cheaper version out there with upside.

[bballoctober]

Think adding TJ makes us go over the second apron. Not sure if there’s any finagling, we can do to add to the roster

I think there's a date late February where we can squeeze in another vet mini and stay under the apron. It has been mentioned on here a lot but, people seem to not see it. Other than that we cannot add anyone to the roster unless it's a trade for matching salary that's already here. The only other way to add a different player would be the two way contract shuffle I believe.

24th February last time I checked.

Hmmm. Well, checking with the numbers currently on Spotrac I think I make it 28th February. Not sure what changed.

Can you tell me the name of that rule ? Somewhere else I heard it was on March 2nd. Thanks.