Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[Monk1718]

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He doesn’t get this endorsement deal if he played for a small market team.

Salute to the goat.

[RHODEY]

would rather see more faceup stuff than posting up. latter should be a situational thing.

Once he gets a jumpshot his face up game will be unstoppable. I bet he could start from the triple threat position at the 3 point line and with one dribble dunk the ball with ease.

There's not a guarantee that ever happens.

AD does all those things, at a very high level, right now.

I wouldn't let Mitch be the hold up between AD/ no AD.

And I really like Mitch a lot.

So if we get Zion you'd trade him Mitch, DSJ, Trier, 2 future firsts for AD?

[RHODEY]

Does Mitch ever crack top 10 on this list?

[Context]

Does Mitch ever crack top 10 on this list?

Mitch is going to average 5 blocks one year- book it...

[Context]

Once he gets a jumpshot his face up game will be unstoppable. I bet he could start from the triple threat position at the 3 point line and with one dribble dunk the ball with ease.

There's not a guarantee that ever happens.

AD does all those things, at a very high level, right now.

I wouldn't let Mitch be the hold up between AD/ no AD.

And I really like Mitch a lot.

So if we get Zion you'd trade him Mitch, DSJ, Trier, 2 future firsts for AD?

If we get lucky and get Zion we can not trade him...we need to find a player that is on the rise who will "complete us" as a future championship team...People, let the warriors and Lebron, Harden and this current regime(westbrook,PG,etc) fight it out- we need to position ourselves for the future...And giving several players 40 million a season(so we can compete with the current "prime cast") is not prudent for the long hall- at this point...

[awy]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

[Context]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

you're entitle to your opinion...Im just looking at the numbers- coming off the bench- not to mention, he said with regular minutes he can get 6 blocks a game. And finally, I've never seen any player in years of watching this game block as many 3 as Mitch does...

[Jeff Van Gully]

I like you as a poster so dont take this personally but this "I would trade Mitch for AD position" frustrates the hell out of me...

Can we keep our own for a change? AD is always injured. His contract is going to be enormous. How many times has he lead his team to the play-offs? We can all agree that KP didnt want to be here so F'em! but when he was healthy -we were on our way to the play-offs the first year that it was his team(if he would have remained healthy) AD is not a top 5 player to me- he hasn't had that type of impact on a team. The year he finally went there he had Cousins by his side and JH...

Mitch from a defensive stand point alone -where hes headed could be a perennial DPOY.

All you guys talk about culture but as soon as we have something worthwhile- you want to trade it- as soon as you don't like something a coach does you want to fire him. I've had enough of this nonsense...

Mitch can be special on both ends if he puts the work in...

i'm in no rush to trade mitch or whatever. we can go back and forth about that forever...

i'm sorry. did you rank KP ahead of AD?

absolutely not. I was just making a point that when KP was healthy and it was his team we saw his impact...

gotcha. thanks for clarifying.

[awy]

4? something around there.

[Clyde Frazier]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Does Mitch ever crack top 10 on this list?

i legit think so. he'll eventually play starter's minutes and get into the 4 range. might not be right away, but by his prime. he's too good at it.

[thebuzzardman]

Once he gets a jumpshot his face up game will be unstoppable. I bet he could start from the triple threat position at the 3 point line and with one dribble dunk the ball with ease.

There's not a guarantee that ever happens.

AD does all those things, at a very high level, right now.

I wouldn't let Mitch be the hold up between AD/ no AD.

And I really like Mitch a lot.

So if we get Zion you'd trade him Mitch, DSJ, Trier, 2 future firsts for AD?

No. If the Knicks got Zion they should keep him.

My theoretical is around the Knicks picking 3-5 (feels most likely) and landing a SG.

Then MAYBE if the trade is constructed the right way and they retain certain players, maybe. Like DSJr could go but not Trier (players who get downhill to the rim).

The good news is, I don't think AD wants anything to do with the Knicks, or anyone not named "The Lakers" so I don't worry it too much.

I think the more likely scenario is the Knicks package up two young guys and some filler for a Tobias Harris/Middleton TYPE, of the type where they are paid around 12-15 million - not what Harris gets or will command now, nor Middleton. Not sure who those guys are in the league, but I could see that happening. Like a stretch 4 guy - I know Middleton isn't one. I mean that kind of talent level, where the guys are good, but not yet maxed out, yet somehow get traded. Or, barring that, no trades at all. It's not a particular rush - stuff like this could happen 2nd season with KD & Kyrie - if that even happens. Which at this point, I don't really care about either way.

[Context]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

exactly- and what are his numbers today off the bench since he took a step forward...these steps are going to continue throughout his career...Im going on record and saying he will hit 5 one day- when he peaks...

[BLACKFEET 2010]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

Right plus all that shot swatting will lead to fouls no matter how good he is at it so he’ll likely not play enough minutes to support those averages.

[RHODEY]

There's not a guarantee that ever happens.

AD does all those things, at a very high level, right now.

I wouldn't let Mitch be the hold up between AD/ no AD.

And I really like Mitch a lot.

So if we get Zion you'd trade him Mitch, DSJ, Trier, 2 future firsts for AD?

No. If the Knicks got Zion they should keep him.

My theoretical is around the Knicks picking 3-5 (feels most likely) and landing a SG.

Then MAYBE if the trade is constructed the right way and they retain certain players, maybe. Like DSJr could go but not Trier (players who get downhill to the rim).

The good news is, I don't think AD wants anything to do with the Knicks, or anyone not named "The Lakers" so I don't worry it too much.

I think the more likely scenario is the Knicks package up two young guys and some filler for a Tobias Harris/Middleton TYPE, of the type where they are paid around 12-15 million - not what Harris gets or will command now, nor Middleton. Not sure who those guys are in the league, but I could see that happening. Like a stretch 4 guy - I know Middleton isn't one. I mean that kind of talent level, where the guys are good, but not yet maxed out, yet somehow get traded. Or, barring that, no trades at all. It's not a particular rush - stuff like this could happen 2nd season with KD & Kyrie - if that even happens. Which at this point, I don't really care about either way.

Gallo?

[Clyde Frazier]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

Right plus all that shot swatting will lead to fouls no matter how good he is at it so he’ll likely not play enough minutes to support those averages.

Yeah I mean learning to not jump at everything should be part of his development. He'd still be an elite rim protector by altering shots and keeping guys out of the paint. You can already tell shooters starting to get hesitant around him.

[RHODEY]

it's much harder to rack up blocks in today's league compared to the 80-90's. i'd say he peaks at around 3.5 bpg.

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

exactly- and what are his numbers today off the bench since he took a step forward...these steps are going to continue throughout his career...Im going on record and saying he will hit 5 one day- when he peaks...

That would be cool. The most recent person on that list is Whiteside from 2015. I think Mitch is a more athletic version of him. I'm confident he can get 4 a game..5 would be awesome. Surpassing the legendary Mark Eaton in the modern age would be bananas.

[BBALLER4FR]

Called Mitch on day one. Glad he's coming through!

[DOT]

I don't know what his ceiling is for blocks per game, but the fact that he routinely blocks jump shots gives him an edge most guys don't have. Even still, agree hitting 4 per game would be tough. Nothing out of the question for a freak like him, though.

Right plus all that shot swatting will lead to fouls no matter how good he is at it so he’ll likely not play enough minutes to support those averages.

Yeah I mean learning to not jump at everything should be part of his development. He'd still be an elite rim protector by altering shots and keeping guys out of the paint. You can already tell shooters starting to get hesitant around him.

It usually drops off though as guys get older, cause altering shots without blocking them gives you less blocks, obviously, but keeps your fouls down and doesn't have a negative effect on defense

Case in point, Serge Ibaka. Averaged almost 4 bpg at 22, then 3 the next year, never got above 3 a game again despite being healthy and playing more minutes

I'd be surprised if he averages more than 2.5 a game in his prime, but he's gonna be an elite defender even if he doesn't put up historic block numbers.

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[Phish Tank]

Right plus all that shot swatting will lead to fouls no matter how good he is at it so he’ll likely not play enough minutes to support those averages.

Yeah I mean learning to not jump at everything should be part of his development. He'd still be an elite rim protector by altering shots and keeping guys out of the paint. You can already tell shooters starting to get hesitant around him.

It usually drops off though as guys get older, cause altering shots without blocking them gives you less blocks, obviously, but keeps your fouls down and doesn't have a negative effect on defense

Case in point, Serge Ibaka. Averaged almost 4 bpg at 22, then 3 the next year, never got above 3 a game again despite being healthy and playing more minutes

I'd be surprised if he averages more than 2.5 a game in his prime, but he's gonna be an elite defender even if he doesn't put up historic block numbers.

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Right, basically the elite CB effect... shut down your opponent to the point they never test you.

I actually expect his blocks to go down as he becomes a better defender. In the sense of not just altering shots, but passing lanes and other things that don’t show up on regular stat sheets.