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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1981 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:17 pm

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movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


The CIA. To cull the US population, to give China an economic hit, and prepare the mindspace of the USA population for the long war with China. And I, for one, approve of this excellent use of taxpayer dollars.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1982 » by Zenzibar » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:29 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


The CIA. To cull the US population, to give China an economic hit, and prepare the mindspace of the USA population for the long war with China. And I, for one, approve of this excellent use of taxpayer dollars.



:lol: too much time holed up Bro?

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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1983 » by Knick4Real » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:25 am

Zenzibar wrote:Just cause you can selectively Google things to falsify claims neither makes it true.

Case in point an article from John Hopkins Hospital themselves:
https://www.hopkinsallchildrens.org/Patients-Families/Health-Library/HealthDocNew/Radiation-Sickness

Radiation Sickness

When large amounts of radiation are released into the air over a short period of time (as from a nuclear blast), it can make people and other living things very sick. Radiation sickness can cause flu-like symptoms, hair loss, skin burns, and even death.

Fortunately, radiation sickness is rare and the risk to people more than a few miles from a blast is extremely low.

If radiation remains in the soil or water supplies, long-term exposure can increase a person's risk of cancer. But even then, it's much lower than the overall risk of cancer to most people living in the United States today.

Here's more about radiation and what happens when people are exposed to high amounts of it....


Two types of radiation:

Non-ionizing radiation. This type of energy is mostly emitted through "waves" — like sound waves, radio waves, and ultraviolet (heat) waves. It's what makes things like cell phones, light bulbs, microwave ovens and diagnostic ultrasound machines work. Although non-ionizing radiation can be harmful in very high doses, this type of radiation cannot change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing.

Ionizing radiation. Some natural sources of ionizing radiation are cosmic rays from the sun and stars, and radon (an element found in soil). Manmade sources include X-ray machines and radiation therapy for cancer treatment. Ionizing radiation is powerful enough to split an atom and change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing. It can be useful (like when it's used for cancer therapy). But ionizing radiation can also be harmful if a person is exposed to too much. It's this type of radiation that can lead to radiation sickness — and even death if the amount of radiation is really high.


---So let's give posters a break if they reach out of your belief system.


You're correct -- LARGE amounts of radiation are dangerous. However, 5G doesn't put out enough power to be life-threatening. It's like a microwave is safe in low doses, but naturally, anything larger would be harmful.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1984 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:03 am

Knick4Real wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Just cause you can selectively Google things to falsify claims neither makes it true.

Case in point an article from John Hopkins Hospital themselves:
https://www.hopkinsallchildrens.org/Patients-Families/Health-Library/HealthDocNew/Radiation-Sickness

Radiation Sickness

When large amounts of radiation are released into the air over a short period of time (as from a nuclear blast), it can make people and other living things very sick. Radiation sickness can cause flu-like symptoms, hair loss, skin burns, and even death.

Fortunately, radiation sickness is rare and the risk to people more than a few miles from a blast is extremely low.

If radiation remains in the soil or water supplies, long-term exposure can increase a person's risk of cancer. But even then, it's much lower than the overall risk of cancer to most people living in the United States today.

Here's more about radiation and what happens when people are exposed to high amounts of it....


Two types of radiation:

Non-ionizing radiation. This type of energy is mostly emitted through "waves" — like sound waves, radio waves, and ultraviolet (heat) waves. It's what makes things like cell phones, light bulbs, microwave ovens and diagnostic ultrasound machines work. Although non-ionizing radiation can be harmful in very high doses, this type of radiation cannot change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing.

Ionizing radiation. Some natural sources of ionizing radiation are cosmic rays from the sun and stars, and radon (an element found in soil). Manmade sources include X-ray machines and radiation therapy for cancer treatment. Ionizing radiation is powerful enough to split an atom and change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing. It can be useful (like when it's used for cancer therapy). But ionizing radiation can also be harmful if a person is exposed to too much. It's this type of radiation that can lead to radiation sickness — and even death if the amount of radiation is really high.


---So let's give posters a break if they reach out of your belief system.


You're correct -- LARGE amounts of radiation are dangerous. However, 5G doesn't put out enough power to be life-threatening. It's like a microwave is safe in low doses, but naturally, anything larger would be harmful.


As if anyone one of us knows where that tipping point is? :lol:
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1985 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:35 am

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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1986 » by movingon » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:01 am

Zenzibar wrote:
movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1987 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:19 am

movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.


It came from the wet markets in Wuhan.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1988 » by spree8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:59 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.


It came from the wet markets in Wuhan.



We don’t know that 100%. There’s a lab in Wuhan that was studying coronaviruses at the exact same time... there’s even people in our government who said as much.. Dan Crenshaw as one example. US officials warned about that lab years prior too. I mean, that’s one hell of a coincidence.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1989 » by spree8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:23 am

movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.



Maaan, there are countless declassified documents that prove previous conspiracies. I believe in science, but if you think the world is squeaky clean and that governments or branches of, don’t commit heinous acts even against its own citizens, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you. I’m not saying 100% this virus is a conspiracy, but some things definitely are seeming a little sketchy to me, and there are millions who feel the same based on facts which start to make you raise questions on “conspiracy theories”.

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Post#1990 » by movingon » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:08 pm

While plenty of outlandish claims and ideas turn out to be true, they are far outnumbered by the number of outlandish claims and ideas that turn out NOT to be true.

Uninformed people are easily manipulated.
If you have no way of testing an outlandish claim what basis do you have to select the small fraction of them that are true?

For example, there is zero real evidence to support that cell phone radiation has any relation to covid-19.
However, there is plenty of evidence that this message is being amplified by people who have an interest in decreasing trust in Western democratic governments.
Don't be a sucker.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1991 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:11 pm

spree8 wrote:
movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.



Maaan, there are countless declassified documents that prove previous conspiracies. I believe in science, but if you think the world is squeaky clean and that governments or branches of, don’t commit heinous acts even against its own citizens, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you. I’m not saying 100% this virus is a conspiracy, but some things definitely are seeming a little sketchy to me, and there are millions who feel the same based on facts which start to make you raise questions on “conspiracy theories”.

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Proves my point. It's the CIA. J. Edgar Hoover HATED the CIA. Therefore, I am right.

I, for one, welcome the plan to shape the minds of the US populace for the long war with China. Long overdue. Cold war? 40 years? Pfft. War on Terror, 20 years? Too small. Cold War with China? Definitely could go for 100+ years. I mean, it already started, lets get this in high gear.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1992 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:53 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
spree8 wrote:
movingon wrote:
All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.



Maaan, there are countless declassified documents that prove previous conspiracies. I believe in science, but if you think the world is squeaky clean and that governments or branches of, don’t commit heinous acts even against its own citizens, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you. I’m not saying 100% this virus is a conspiracy, but some things definitely are seeming a little sketchy to me, and there are millions who feel the same based on facts which start to make you raise questions on “conspiracy theories”.

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Proves my point. It's the CIA. J. Edgar Hoover HATED the CIA. Therefore, I am right.

I, for one, welcome the plan to shape the minds of the US populace for the long war with China. Long overdue. Cold war? 40 years? Pfft. War on Terror, 20 years? Too small. Cold War with China? Definitely could go for 100+ years. I mean, it already started, lets get this in high gear.

Vote against Trump, try diplomacy. It's always worth a try.
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Post#1993 » by Drazen8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:02 pm

Humans fuxs with stuff.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nih-lifts-ban-on-flu-mers-sars-virus-gain-of-function-research-2017-12?op=1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/

Many governments have been doing this for decades.
"Accidents" of all sorts can happen.
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Post#1994 » by spree8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:24 pm

movingon wrote:While plenty of outlandish claims and ideas turn out to be true, they are far outnumbered by the number of outlandish claims and ideas that turn out NOT to be true.

Uninformed people are easily manipulated.
If you have no way of testing an outlandish claim what basis do you have to select the small fraction of them that are true?

For example, there is zero real evidence to support that cell phone radiation has any relation to covid-19.
However, there is plenty of evidence that this message is being amplified by people who have an interest in decreasing trust in Western democratic governments.
Don't be a sucker.



Your posts are coming off like you know everything about everything 100%... that’s suckerish imo. I’m not claiming to know it’s definitely the 5G thing... I’ve repeatedly said that I’m not buying in 100%... to anything really, I’m simply questioning what we’re being told.

These “small” number of outlandish claims that turn out to be true are incredibly significant occurrences. Don’t trivialize them. Our own government has been behind many that have been confirmed... you seriously believe they allow us to know everything? Lol. Wake up.

Again, not sayin it’s 100% conspiracy, but I’m raising an eyebrow... for good reason. I don’t just believe everything I’m told by main stream media.
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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1995 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:58 pm

spree8 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
movingon wrote:
All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.


It came from the wet markets in Wuhan.



We don’t know that 100%. There’s a lab in Wuhan that was studying coronaviruses at the exact same time... there’s even people in our government who said as much.. Dan Crenshaw as one example. US officials warned about that lab years prior too. I mean, that’s one hell of a coincidence.


Crenshaw is a Republican provocateur trying to deflect blame against Trump by manufacturing this heinous story. He’s just like Tom Cotton.

There no evidence of this happening whereas the wet markets make sense epidemiologically speaking. Maybe if Trump hadn’t eliminated our pandemic point person in Beijing, we know more.
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Post#1996 » by spree8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:09 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
spree8 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
It came from the wet markets in Wuhan.



We don’t know that 100%. There’s a lab in Wuhan that was studying coronaviruses at the exact same time... there’s even people in our government who said as much.. Dan Crenshaw as one example. US officials warned about that lab years prior too. I mean, that’s one hell of a coincidence.


Crenshaw is a Republican provocateur trying to deflect blame against Trump by manufacturing this heinous story. He’s just like Tom Cotton.

There no evidence of this happening whereas the wet markets make sense epidemiologically speaking. Maybe if Trump hadn’t eliminated our pandemic point person in Beijing, we know more.



I don’t see how it would benefit Trump one way or the other? If it came from a Chinese lab or a wet market that they continuously allow to operate despite the viruses caused by them in the past, what’s that have to do with Trump? Crenshaw didn’t manufacture it... he just acknowledged it after Bill Maher brought it up. I hate Trump and dislike many Republicans for the record. But what about US officials who mentioned this as an issue years ago?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-officials-sounded-alarm-about-wuhan-lab-years-before-coronavirus-outbreak

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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1997 » by Zenzibar » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:52 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.


It came from the wet markets in Wuhan.


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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1998 » by Zenzibar » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:54 pm

movingon wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
movingon wrote:5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.


What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?


All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.


You mad?

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Re: OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe 

Post#1999 » by Zenzibar » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:00 pm

spree8 wrote:
movingon wrote:While plenty of outlandish claims and ideas turn out to be true, they are far outnumbered by the number of outlandish claims and ideas that turn out NOT to be true.

Uninformed people are easily manipulated.
If you have no way of testing an outlandish claim what basis do you have to select the small fraction of them that are true?

For example, there is zero real evidence to support that cell phone radiation has any relation to covid-19.
However, there is plenty of evidence that this message is being amplified by people who have an interest in decreasing trust in Western democratic governments.
Don't be a sucker.



Your posts are coming off like you know everything about everything 100%... that’s suckerish imo. I’m not claiming to know it’s definitely the 5G thing... I’ve repeatedly said that I’m not buying in 100%... to anything really, I’m simply questioning what we’re being told.

These “small” number of outlandish claims that turn out to be true are incredibly significant occurrences. Don’t trivialize them. Our own government has been behind many that have been confirmed... you seriously believe they allow us to know everything? Lol. Wake up.

Again, not sayin it’s 100% conspiracy, but I’m raising an eyebrow... for good reason. I don’t just believe everything I’m told by main stream media.



Exactly. No-one here claimed the 5G thing to be real. You posted that it's mind-boggling what's happen and you're not dismissing anything and I agree.
This dude coming off like we can't discuss ANYTHING here , that's not pre-approved by him. And I say to him,,,,,GTFOH
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Post#2000 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:36 pm

Let's have a separate thread on conspiracy theories.

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