Post#1984 » by HEZI » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:02 pm
newyorker4ever wrote:HEZI wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:
I wouldn't use a players shooting in practice to judge how good or bad of a shooter he'll be in the NBA.
E.Kanter, M.Robinson, Melo's boy DSJ and many other non shooters could hit multiple 3 point shots in a row in practice, but it's a whole other thing to hit them in games.
His point still stands. Bouk is a better shooter flat out, there is no argument. Also, he shoots a lot of off the dribble pull ups so while he may never become an efficient outside shooter by percentages, he's still going to be plenty effective pulling up from outside. The value in his abilities is that he's a triple threat scorer, so as long as he can be effective in the mid range and getting to the basket he is going to be an offensive weapon. Similar to a Devin Booker. Now can he function as a high usage ball handler on the next level like Booker has proven to be, that remains to be seen, but his skill set suggests he should have no problem so it's up to how he understands the game and how hard he works to keep getting better that will determine how good he becomes on the next level.
My point also still stands. You absolutely cannot go off of what a player does with his shooting in practice to predict what he'll be as a shooter in the NBA and i would guess that actual scouts and GM's and coaches don't either.
I have no idea what Bouk or Cooper will be as shooters in the NBA cause a big part of these kids making it at the next level is what they have between the ears and the confidence they have in themselves and if the moment will be too big for them and all of that stuff are things that can't be predicted until it's actually seen in actual NBA games. The work they put in will obviously be huge for them to get better at shooting and everything else they work on but i'm talking about what's between the ears which is something we can't know.
I like Bouk and am all about drafting him if he makes it to 19 or 21 and would even trade up a few spots for him but his 3 point shooting does worry me. I also really love everything Cooper can do and think he'll be a good NBA PG with his elite level quickness and vision and passing but his shooting i have much less confidence in, but again you never know if this kid just translates better to the NBA game and the work he puts in with his shooting ends up working for him.
Of course you don't but there are still little things you can pick up on to determine comfort level in predicting how they would translate over. It's why many scouts and GMs choose to attend these pro days to watch them practice. You can still pick up on little details like base on their jumper, lift off the floor, ball placement, quickness of the release, release point, etc. which all make up a player's shot motion and mechanics.
DENVER NUGGETS
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ayo Dosunmu/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Harrison Barnes/Isaac Okoro
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
Ivica Zubac/Nick Richards/Oscar Tshiebwe
realistically I always thought getting a chance to draft him was a pipe dream. That's why I was always so shocked to see him so low on so many mock drafts especially when you watch the tape of the guys that are ahead of him in the 6-10 range. There's legit no good argument to pick someone like Franz Wagner or Scotty Barnes over him IMO. We just need to hope that there's a bunch of dumb teams that are willing to let him fall into the late lottery so we have a chance to pounce at him.
