Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Damn, Porzingis is only 20 lbs heavier than Mudiay? Will this dude even survive a flagrant foul in the NBA?

In today's NBA, I don't see why not...maybe not so much in the 90's.

Lol idk man. He better have Nerlens Noel's number saved in his phone

[EMG518]

We are going to draft prozingus he is the only one we heard nothing about. And Phil so far have kept everything he does quit. I think he will end up being the pick when it's all said and done.

If he's ready to contribute like 94-98 Kukoc or Pau Gasol then, I'd buy it. But he's going to need 2 years at least before he's ready to play in the NBA. The Knicks don't have that luxury to waste a first round pick on him and let him have 2 years in Europe to continue to grow.

I dont know what youre basing this off of but I have seen him play plenty, he can certainly play right now. He already logs a good amount of minutes against good competition professionally at 19. He certainly needs to get on an NBA strength and conditioning program but he can step on the court now and play.

[Besart19]

Only Town can't slide to #4... unless the LA do the impossible and pass on him in favor of Mudiay/Russell

Minny isn't going to select Okafor over Towns -- so LA won't even have the option of passing on him in favor of either guard.

That's why I said he wont slide to the fourth position... If Okafor may be a bit concern for their chemistry, Towns is just the best remedy for that... Towns/Randle would be a great combo down low... and they're both Kentucky products

[Besart19]

Mudiay
Thjr
Melo
Aldridge
Monroe

Is that a contender??

Only if we score 138 points every single game

Only Mudiay can play little defense out there...

Just imagine teams attacking THJ off the PnR and Monroe as a rim "protecter"

[Jeff Van Gully]

i just read chris bosh as a comparison for porzingis... and so far, that's the best comparison i can think of.

[Worst_to_First]

Mudiay
Thjr
Melo
Aldridge
Monroe

Is that a contender??

Only if we score 138 points every single game

Only Mudiay can play little defense out there...

Just imagine teams attacking THJ off the PnR and Monroe as a rim "protecter"

[92Knicksfan93]

We are going to draft prozingus he is the only one we heard nothing about. And Phil so far have kept everything he does quit. I think he will end up being the pick when it's all said and done.

If he's ready to contribute like 94-98 Kukoc or Pau Gasol then, I'd buy it. But he's going to need 2 years at least before he's ready to play in the NBA. The Knicks don't have that luxury to waste a first round pick on him and let him have 2 years in Europe to continue to grow.

I dont know what youre basing this off of but I have seen him play plenty, he can certainly play right now. He already logs a good amount of minutes against good competition professionally at 19. He certainly needs to get on an NBA strength and conditioning program but he can step on the court now and play.

Right now he looks a skinnier less coordinated version of Andris Biedrins. If he looked like 2007 Biedrins (the one who had the ability to put up 21 pts 14 rebounds and 3 blocks while matching up against Pau Gasol, I'd sign off on it).

[92Knicksfan93]

i just read chris bosh as a comparison for porzingis... and so far, that's the best comparison i can think of.

Chris Bosh averaged 11.5 pts, 7.4 rbds, 1.4 blks (3.1 block%) in 33minutes/game with a 15 PER his rookie season. Can Porzingis come in and do that his rookie season? I highly doubt it.

[Worst_to_First]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Ana ... raft-5021/

Most draft analytic models have Russell as #1 prospect, followed by Towns, Winslow, and Okafor.

The consensus of those analytic guys actually came out like this:

1 D'Angelo Russell
2 Jahlil Okafor
3 Karl-Anthony Towns
4 Justise Winslow
5 Stanley Johnson
5 Kevon Looney
7 Myles Turner
7 Tyus Jones
9 Delon Wright
10 Frank Kaminsky
11 Christian Wood
12 Bobby Portis
13 Cameron Payne
14 Kelly Oubre
15 Jerian Grant
16 Willie Cauley-Stein
17 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
18 Chris McCullough
19 R.J. Hunter
20 Montrezl Harrell
21 Sam Dekker
22 Richaun Holmes
23 Robert Upshaw
24 Trey Lyles
25 Jarell Martin
26 Terry Rozier
27 Justin Anderson
28 Wesley Saunders
28 Jordan Mickey
30 Vince Hunter

[malik959]

Mudiay
Thjr
Melo
Aldridge
Monroe

Is that a contender??

Any time you have THJ in the starting lineup....No!

[vallen]

I keep going back to the Mario Vids. I swear his weaknesses are easily fixable, and have nothing at all to do with mechanics. hes an all around beast. he just likes to dominate the ball. when hes in a system, and not trying to be a top pick, i think hes easily coachable. and nothings broke. hes fun to watch man...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mario-Hezonja-6392/

[EMG518]

If he's ready to contribute like 94-98 Kukoc or Pau Gasol then, I'd buy it. But he's going to need 2 years at least before he's ready to play in the NBA. The Knicks don't have that luxury to waste a first round pick on him and let him have 2 years in Europe to continue to grow.

I dont know what youre basing this off of but I have seen him play plenty, he can certainly play right now. He already logs a good amount of minutes against good competition professionally at 19. He certainly needs to get on an NBA strength and conditioning program but he can step on the court now and play.

Right now he looks a skinnier less coordinated version of Andris Biedrins. If he looked like 2007 Biedrins (the one who had the ability to put up 21 pts 14 rebounds and 3 blocks while matching up against Pau Gasol, I'd sign off on it).

You obviously havent watched him play. The only thing they have in common is they both are built similar and from Latvia.

[TrueWarrior]

I keep going back to the Mario Vids. I swear his weaknesses are easily fixable, and have nothing at all to do with mechanics. hes an all around beast. he just likes to dominate the ball. when hes in a system, and not trying to be a top pick, i think hes easily coachable. and nothings broke. hes fun to watch man...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mario-Hezonja-6392/

He has meh handle, shot creating ability, and passing/vision. He also has one of the lowest free throw rates and questionable feel for the game. That isnt easily fixable. Some of his lack of driving may be due to role, but how much is a guess. He seems like a great shooter who can throw down some dunks and defend when motivated. The JR Smith comps arent far off, which isnt bad if his attitude becomes a good thing. Mudiay just has more playmaking/creating skill and a higher BBIQ which is what elevates him for me. Hezonja would be great if we already had a playmaker who could set him up, a la LeBron/JR.

[vallen]

I keep going back to the Mario Vids. I swear his weaknesses are easily fixable, and have nothing at all to do with mechanics. hes an all around beast. he just likes to dominate the ball. when hes in a system, and not trying to be a top pick, i think hes easily coachable. and nothings broke. hes fun to watch man...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mario-Hezonja-6392/

He has meh handle, shot creating ability, and passing/vision. He also has one of the lowest free throw rates. That isnt easily fixable. Some of his lack of driving may be due to role, but how much is a guess. He seems like a great shooter who can throw down some dunks and defend when motivated. The JR Smith comps arent far off, which isnt bad if his attitude becomes a good thing. Mudiay just has more playmaking skill and a higher BBIQ which is what elevates him for me. Hezonja would be great if we already had a playmaker who could set him up, a la LeBron/JR.

Mudiay has no Jumper, gets to the Line, but cant make them. and I dont see the same BBIQ you do. and while I appreciate the TW scouting report, im looking at reports from guys that actually have seen him play before.

[j4remi]

Neither Early or Greek can dribble or pass --- this is a big issue with any thoughts of future offensive stardom projections.

No stardom projections here, but against summer league comp I think Early is capable of doing numbers. Thannasis idk much at all, but everybody will watching him.

[vallen]

i also believe super marios easily the best option if we indeed run the tringle. Mudiays broke jumper may tamper development in such a system. and lose value. something just doesnt feel complete about Mudiays game, besides the bust jumper and terrible FT'%..

[NBA Fan 1234]

Mudiay doesn't have bad form though, so his numbers will improve - if form isn't broken, it's the easiest thing to correct.

As for Mario -- he's talented, yes, but he's reliant on his jumper, takes some bad shots (BBIQ?), and I'm pretty sure there were reports about him clashing with his team.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Mudiay doesn't have bad form though, so his numbers will improve - if form isn't broken, it's the easiest thing to correct.

As for Mario -- he's talented, yes, but he's reliant on his jumper, takes some bad shots (BBIQ?), and I'm pretty sure there were reports about him clashing with his team.

They couldn't wait for us to get rid of JR Smith, and now they want us to draft JR Smith Jr.

[Besart19]

Mudiay doesn't have bad form though, so his numbers will improve - if form isn't broken, it's the easiest thing to correct.

As for Mario -- he's talented, yes, but he's reliant on his jumper, takes some bad shots (BBIQ?), and I'm pretty sure there were reports about him clashing with his team.

Btw, I liked how Stanley Johnson shot the ball during a workout... pretty good form and a soft touch!!

And I like his toughness, especially on the defensive end... Has a great upside! Maybe the best prospect from the lower 5

[N Y K]

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