O.T. .::THE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY THREAD::.

[gavran]

It's all a front to cover that we at some point will develop time travel to go back and mine gold and resources for our future selves once we run out of natural resources...how's that for a theory? Now gimme a year to research all over the place and force circle pieces into square holes and I'll sell you a new conspiracy.

It'll be a dead theory. Time travel to the past is against physics.

Umm, not sure if you were being sarcastic...but you do know that Time Travel has been proven already right? On the Atomic level recently.

You can only travel in the future, and never in the past. You go back, you can alter the time line that leads to making a time machine. If you're interested read Cosmic catastropes: supernovae, gamma ray bursts, and adventures in hyperspace by J. Craigh Wheeler, great book, and has a chapter about time travel.

[method]

FYI, the fourth kind is not based on anything. it's all fake but they made it seem real to sell it better (example:fake websites and news articles)

Can someone explain what the video is exactly? At work with youtube blocked.

And if it was true wouldnt our own goverment try to disprove it by sending out false imformation?Like they always have.

In 52 when there where ufos over the whitehouse did you know the crap they fed us?"It didnt happen"

[j4remi]

It's all a front to cover that we at some point will develop time travel to go back and mine gold and resources for our future selves once we run out of natural resources...how's that for a theory? Now gimme a year to research all over the place and force circle pieces into square holes and I'll sell you a new conspiracy.

It'll be a dead theory. Time travel to the past is against physics.

Umm, not sure if you were being sarcastic...but you do know that Time Travel has been proven already right? On the Atomic level recently.

Recently time travel to the past has come into heavy question by Stephen Hawking (sp?) himself but it hasn't been disproven. He theorizes that you can definitely without a doubt travel to the future, but the past is impossible to reach.

[magnumt]

^I forgot who ran the experiment, but on the Atomic level they were able to have a few secs of Time Differentiation. It's something than can be easily scaled up they showed (but not with our current systems).

That run the documentary periodically on the Science Channel, so you might seen it again soon.

[method]

Most people say they wouldnt believe in UFO's untill they landed on the whitehouse lawn and say take me to your leader.

But in 52 they where clearly over the whitehouse and our own jet fighters chanced them away.

[j4remi]

It's all a front to cover that we at some point will develop time travel to go back and mine gold and resources for our future selves once we run out of natural resources...how's that for a theory? Now gimme a year to research all over the place and force circle pieces into square holes and I'll sell you a new conspiracy.

On a side note to this, some think that many of the "Aliens" or "stuff" that we've discovered in the past as evidence of advanced life/intelligence (like that pin that looks like a Shuttle/Plane) is actually Time-Travel contamination from our own selves. That we somehow f'ked something up in the future, and are coming back into the past to looks for solutions, fix things, or get what we depleted.

Any links or theory titles so I can check it out? I love looking into this stuff.

[magnumt]

It'll be a dead theory. Time travel to the past is against physics.

Umm, not sure if you were being sarcastic...but you do know that Time Travel has been proven already right? On the Atomic level recently.

You can only travel in the future, and never in the past. You go back, you can alter the time line that leads to making a time machine. If you're interested read Cosmic catastropes: supernovae, gamma ray bursts, and adventures in hyperspace by J. Craigh Wheeler, great book, and has a chapter about time travel.

Time Paradoxes create an entirely separate fully-functioning "bubble" that runs parallel to the Universe in which the Time Traveler(s) who created those Paradoxes exist.

--Mags

[method]

^I forgot who ran the experiment, but on the Atomic level they were able to have a few secs of Time Differentiation. It's something than can be easily scaled up they showed (but not with our current systems).

That run the documentary periodically on the Science Channel, so you might seen it again soon.

I think you might be talking about the philadelphia project.

[j4remi]

^I forgot who ran the experiment, but on the Atomic level they were able to have a few secs of Time Differentiation. It's something than can be easily scaled up they showed (but not with our current systems).

That run the documentary periodically on the Science Channel, so you might seen it again soon.

I think I know the experiment. It's where the tiny particles that only live for milliseconds were shown to live for like 30 seconds right? That was proof you can essentially "slow down" time if you move fast enough (a day for you is a year outside of that speed)...but that only proves you can go to the future now the past. If I'm mistaken let me know though.

Check this out guys, my favorite theory right now and something I take huge interest in just because it sounds so crazy yet somehow makes sense to me with the bit of quantum mechanics I've seen in documentaries and articles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

The one-electron universe hypothesis, commonly associated with Richard Feynman when he mentioned it in his Nobel lecture,[1] postulates that there exists only a single electron in the universe, propagating through space and time in such a way as to appear in many places simultaneously.

[method]

On a side note to this, some think that many of the "Aliens" or "stuff" that we've discovered in the past as evidence of advanced life/intelligence (like that pin that looks like a Shuttle/Plane) is actually Time-Travel contamination from our own selves. That we somehow f'ked something up in the future, and are coming back into the past to looks for solutions, fix things, or get what we depleted.

While that might be true but it doesnt explain acient airports.

[gavran]

Time Paradoxes create an entirely separate fully-functioning "bubble" that runs parallel to the Universe in which the Time Traveler(s) who created those Paradoxes exist.

--Mags

Then the time travellers would live in another Universe, and could never come back to this, making the time travel kind of pointless.

[j4remi]

Time Paradoxes create an entirely separate fully-functioning "bubble" that runs parallel to the Universe in which the Time Traveler(s) who created those Paradoxes exist.

--Mags

Then the time travellers would live in another Universe, and could never come back to this, making the time travel kind of pointless.

Not pointless for the time traveler himself though.

[gavran]

I think I know the experiment. It's where the tiny particles that only live for milliseconds were shown to live for like 30 seconds right? That was proof you can essentially "slow down" time if you move fast enough (a day for you is a year outside of that speed)...but that only proves you can go to the future now the past. If I'm mistaken let me know though.

Check this out guys, my favorite theory right now and something I take huge interest in just because it sounds so crazy yet somehow makes sense to me with the bit of quantum mechanics I've seen in documentaries and articles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

The one-electron universe hypothesis, commonly associated with Richard Feynman when he mentioned it in his Nobel lecture,[1] postulates that there exists only a single electron in the universe, propagating through space and time in such a way as to appear in many places simultaneously.

Yeah, that's just the good old theory of relativity, nothing new.

[magnumt]

^I forgot who ran the experiment, but on the Atomic level they were able to have a few secs of Time Differentiation. It's something than can be easily scaled up they showed (but not with our current systems).

That run the documentary periodically on the Science Channel, so you might seen it again soon.

I think I know the experiment. It's where the tiny particles that only live for milliseconds were shown to live for like 30 seconds right? That was proof you can essentially "slow down" time if you move fast enough (a day for you is a year outside of that speed)...but that only proves you can go to the future now the past. If I'm mistaken let me know though.

Check this out guys, my favorite theory right now and something I take huge interest in just because it sounds so crazy yet somehow makes sense to me with the bit of quantum mechanics I've seen in documentaries and articles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

The one-electron universe hypothesis, commonly associated with Richard Feynman when he mentioned it in his Nobel lecture,[1] postulates that there exists only a single electron in the universe, propagating through space and time in such a way as to appear in many places simultaneously.

Yeah, I think that was the Experiment. My point though is that years ago, Time Travel period was thought not doable or centuries away. We've already proven that half-way (Forward), in the coming Decades...who's to say we can't prove the other half (Backwards)?

See where I'm coming from?

Oh and to answer your question above, it's on many of the Documentaries (which also carry over from Books), that the Science and History Channels run. Google should be able to help you fill the gaps you need if you want a detailed breakdown.

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You mean the God Particle?

But seriously, if that were the case then String Theory and Singularities would be a false logic, because then the "Big Bang" would be impossible.

--Mags

[j4remi]

I think I know the experiment. It's where the tiny particles that only live for milliseconds were shown to live for like 30 seconds right? That was proof you can essentially "slow down" time if you move fast enough (a day for you is a year outside of that speed)...but that only proves you can go to the future now the past. If I'm mistaken let me know though.

Check this out guys, my favorite theory right now and something I take huge interest in just because it sounds so crazy yet somehow makes sense to me with the bit of quantum mechanics I've seen in documentaries and articles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

The one-electron universe hypothesis, commonly associated with Richard Feynman when he mentioned it in his Nobel lecture,[1] postulates that there exists only a single electron in the universe, propagating through space and time in such a way as to appear in many places simultaneously.

Yeah, that's just the good old theory of relativity, nothing new.

Exactly, and even for that we'd need an insane energy source...found the article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive ... chine.html

You just have to travel very, very fast. Much faster even than the speed required to avoid being sucked into a black hole. This is due to another strange fact about the universe. There's a cosmic speed limit, 186,000 miles per second, also known as the speed of light. Nothing can exceed that speed. It's one of the best established principles in science. Believe it or not, travelling at near the speed of light transports you to the future.

To explain why, let's dream up a science-fiction transportation system. Imagine a track that goes right around Earth, a track for a superfast train. We're going to use this imaginary train to get as close as possible to the speed of light and see how it becomes a time machine. On board are passengers with a one-way ticket to the future. The train begins to accelerate, faster and faster. Soon it's circling the Earth over and over again.

To approach the speed of light means circling the Earth pretty fast. Seven times a second. But no matter how much power the train has, it can never quite reach the speed of light, since the laws of physics forbid it. Instead, let's say it gets close, just shy of that ultimate speed. Now something extraordinary happens. Time starts flowing slowly on board relative to the rest of the world, just like near the black hole, only more so. Everything on the train is in slow motion.

[magnumt]

On a side note to this, some think that many of the "Aliens" or "stuff" that we've discovered in the past as evidence of advanced life/intelligence (like that pin that looks like a Shuttle/Plane) is actually Time-Travel contamination from our own selves. That we somehow f'ked something up in the future, and are coming back into the past to looks for solutions, fix things, or get what we depleted.

While that might be true but it doesnt explain acient airports.

If you can fly millions of milers through space, you don't need an airport and can land vertically or hover, etc.

--Mags

[magnumt]

Exactly, and even for that we'd need an insane energy source...

Yeah, that's why I said above in my prior posts that it's scalable...just not with the current systems we have.

--Mags

[j4remi]

Yeah, I think that was the Experiment. My point though is that years ago, Time Travel period was thought not doable or centuries away. We've already proven that half-way (Forward), in the coming Decades...who's to say we can't prove the other half (Backwards)?

See where I'm coming from?

Oh and to answer your question above, it's on many of the Documentaries (which also carry over from Books), that the Science and History Channels run. Google should be able to help you fill the gaps you need if you want a detailed breakdown.

======================================

You mean the God Particle?

But seriously, if that were the case then String Theory and Singularities would be a false logic, because then the "Big Bang" would be impossible.

--Mags

If there were a theory title, it'd be much easier to google. More of a wild goose chase if you're just looking through all time travel theories that have come out.

God particle would destroy the string theory and some other things, but it's just the most intriguing to me. I'm a big fan of string theory/m-theory etc. The concepts when simplified can explain a lot, but I'm willing to explore anything that has a new outlook. Like you said, when considering all of the advances we've made in a short time period...anything is possible at this point. Scientists can create a universe in a lab according to some crazy equations.

[method]

On a side note to this, some think that many of the "Aliens" or "stuff" that we've discovered in the past as evidence of advanced life/intelligence (like that pin that looks like a Shuttle/Plane) is actually Time-Travel contamination from our own selves. That we somehow f'ked something up in the future, and are coming back into the past to looks for solutions, fix things, or get what we depleted.

While that might be true but it doesnt explain acient airports.

If you can fly millions of milers through space, you don't need an airport and can land vertically or hover, etc.

--Mags

I can total believe in time traval theory.That could explain helicopters and shapeships in hieroglphs in egypt.

[ITGM]

The one-electron universe hypothesis, commonly associated with Richard Feynman when he mentioned it in his Nobel lecture,[1] postulates that there exists only a single electron in the universe, propagating through space and time in such a way as to appear in many places simultaneously.

“Your inner body is not solid but spacious…. Physicists have discovered that the apparent solidity of matter is an illusion created by our senses. This includes the physical body, which we perceive and think of as form, but 99.99% of which is actually empty space. This is how vast the space is between the atoms compared to their size, and there is as much space again within each atom. In many ways it is a microcosmic version of outer space” - Eckhart Tolle