[Camelo Thread Part 9] - OJ to DEN, Melo to NY? Pg 7

Futureisnow · Post #21 » by **Futureisnow** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:29 pm

Why not just get Minny's pick now? It's not like AR is getting any PT as is. Get that pick while it's on the table.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #22 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:30 pm

Futureisnow wrote:Why not just get Minny's pick now? It's not like AR is getting any PT as is. Get that pick while it's on the table.

Because this years draft class is weak and AR still has potential. Don't expect a trade for their pick unless it involves Carmelo.

Post #23 » by **knicks742** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:31 pm

Futureisnow wrote:Why not just get Minny's pick now? It's not like AR is getting any PT as is. Get that pick while it's on the table.

It's not Minny's pick, it's either the Memphis or Jazz picks, both of which are, at least, lottery protected. No thanks.

smw6230 · Post #24 » by **smw6230** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:33 pm

Jay10 wrote:there is no way the nuggets let carmelo wait until free agency. if carmelo told them he wants to join the knicks, they don't have a choice but to send him here. if they let him stay until free agency and he still wants to join the knicks, they aren't getting anything close to what they might be able to get now.

The problem is they (Nuggets fans) don't think much of anything we offer so a lot of them think they'd be better off letting Carmelo walk as opposed to accepting "the Knicks trash".

I think they're more concerned about screwing Carmelo and making sure that he doesn't get what he wants than they are about actually improving their franchise in a post Carmelo world. One hopes their management is of a more mature attitude, but their abject refusal to talk to Walsh isn't exactly reassuring that they haven't allowed it to get personal and haven't fallen into a similar 'anywhere but NY' frame of mind.

NYK0605 · Post #25 » by **NYK0605** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:33 pm

If Denver lets Melo walks and gets no value for him, they are going to lose a ton of fans for their terrible front office.

Either they still think they can get more value for him or they are still delusional thinking they can resign Melo.

adog50 · Post #26 » by **adog50** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:37 pm

What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #27 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:39 pm

adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

If that was true, why would every other piece in the trade--apart from Troy Murphy--be playing?

smw6230 · Post #28 » by **smw6230** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:39 pm

NYK0605 wrote:If Denver lets Melo walks and gets no value for him, they are going to lose a ton of fans for their terrible front office.

Either they still think they can get more value for him or they are still delusional thinking they can resign Melo.

Personally, I'd feel a lot better about NY eventually landing Anthony if it weren't for Houston. If it weren't for Houston Denver would have to move toward Walsh if Anthony rejected a Neyt's contract extension.. Houston gives them a fallback option if CA kills the NJ trade. Adding to that Morey looks to be in cockblock mode and they have the resources and motivation to do a rental and Denver just might ship him there to spite NY. Now NY could still get him but it'd be more problematic than a straight NY/Denver deal.

adog50 · Post #29 » by **adog50** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:40 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

If that was true, why would every other piece in the trade--apart from Troy Murphy--be playing?

Another reason is if they sit everyone they wont have enough players to play.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #30 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:40 pm

adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

That makes no sense considering everyone who is apart of the deal played last night. Kenny Smith doesn't realize that Rip and the Pistons relationship is strained to say the very least.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #31 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:41 pm

adog50 wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

If that was true, why would every other piece in the trade--apart from Troy Murphy--be playing?

Another reason is if they sit everyone they wont have enough players to play.

Then why is Carmelo and Billups playing tonight?

adog50 · Post #32 » by **adog50** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:44 pm

^ Denver and Jersey are going to try to rack up as many wins as possible. Detroit simply doesn't care

Dantares · Post #33 » by **Dantares** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:45 pm

even if we do get a first round pick is it enough to get carmelo? NJ has multiple picks, the next pick that we could offer after this year would be in 2014, and then i suppose we could throw in both GS 2nd round picks. this would be the package

Wilson Chandler or Gallinari
2011 1st round pick
2014 1st round pick
2012 GS 2nd round pick
2013 GS 2nd round pick

Post #34 » by **knicks742** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:45 pm

adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

First, the Piston's coach has no idea what he is doing over there. Second, Hamilton has been pouting cause he was already taken out of the starting lineup. His benching have nothing to do with a deal. If it was a deal, they could have told him he wasn't going to play and he wouldn't have been shocked like he was. Even Prince called the benching, buffoonery.

Post #35 » by **nyknicks2k2** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:45 pm

adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

He's been playing like crap since going to the bench. Doesn't exactly shock me.

Fat Kat · Post #36 » by **Fat Kat** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:45 pm

adog50 wrote:What do you guys think of the Benching of RIP Hamilton, Kenny Smith says that means that a trade is Imminent within the Next 24 to 48 hours.

Whats your take on this?

When is Kenny right about anything? He's a small step above Charles. No one ever calls these guys on their BS. 48hrs from now he'll act like he never made a prediction. The guy is a clown.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #37 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:46 pm

adog50 wrote:^ Denver and Jersey are going to try to rack up as many wins as possible. Detroit simply doesn't care

Why would Denver allow the Nets to rack up wins? They want a higher draft pick.

adog50 · Post #38 » by **adog50** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:49 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
adog50 wrote:^ Denver and Jersey are going to try to rack up as many wins as possible. Detroit simply doesn't care

Why would Denver allow the Nets to rack up wins? They want a higher draft pick.

If that was the Case why would they Trade Carmelo to the Nets? More wins...

Post #39 » by **knicks742** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:51 pm

adog50 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
adog50 wrote:^ Denver and Jersey are going to try to rack up as many wins as possible. Detroit simply doesn't care

Why would Denver allow the Nets to rack up wins? They want a higher draft pick.

If that was the Case why would they Trade Carmelo to the Nets? More wins...

My head just exploded. If they don't trade Melo then they don't get the Nets' pick and this whole thing doesn't matter. Clearly you must have meant something else.

thebuzzardman · Post #40 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:52 pm

Answer is: It's Kenny Smith. Expect Retardation.