[NY Knicks Trade Thread Pt2] - (Other Threads Locked/Merged)

jstudabaka · Post #21 » by **jstudabaka** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:59 am

Phoenix would probably want Fields also. But I imagine they could get better value for Nash elsewhere, in the first place.

Swammy · Post #22 » by **Swammy** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:37 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Earl Clark and Ryan Anderson for Ronny Turiaf and Bill Walker.

That trade is hideous for Orlando. They take on more salary and lose the two best players in that deal.

MarJJMar · Post #23 » by **MarJJMar** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:12 am

lol@magnumt

thinking that the Hornets would take Amare for CP3 or that the Magic would consider Amare for Dwight.

Phoenix could not even get JJ Hickson for Amare at the deadline. Amare does not have much trade value with his contract and injury history.

Thorn · Post #24 » by **Thorn** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:30 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Knickplaya wrote:I say we make a deal for Felton. We can probally come away with an asset with Felton for Billups.

No, NY would have to add an asset to make that trade. Denver doesn't want Billups back, he didn't fit the system. Plus Lawson is now the starter, the FO knows GK is a moron and would return Billups as starter.

I would disagree that system was going nowhere until Billups pushed them over the hump, I am sorry you are not giving enough credit to Billups and you know what you are not alone that has been his career since coming into the NBA. HE had his brief moment in the spotlight where he was given his due while in Detroit for a year of recognition or two.

Now he is somehow not "that guy" once again.

Denver was 1st round road speed umps until Billups got there.

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #25 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:08 pm

Thorn wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Knickplaya wrote:I say we make a deal for Felton. We can probally come away with an asset with Felton for Billups.

No, NY would have to add an asset to make that trade. Denver doesn't want Billups back, he didn't fit the system. Plus Lawson is now the starter, the FO knows GK is a moron and would return Billups as starter.

I would disagree that system was going nowhere until Billups pushed them over the hump, I am sorry you are not giving enough credit to Billups and you know what you are not alone that has been his career since coming into the NBA. HE had his brief moment in the spotlight where he was given his due while in Detroit for a year of recognition or two.

Now he is somehow not "that guy" once again.

Denver was 1st round road speed umps until Billups got there.

You didn't follow Denver at all, did you? Denver always made the playoffs in the harder West, due to Melo carrying them. The reason they couldn't get any further, was because some of those teams shouldn't have been in the playoffs. Either due to a lot of injuries, poorly constructed rosters, and/or big "me first" players like AI and Camby.

Now if you were paying attention, Denver's system is to run, run, run. Lawson would speed the game up when he came in, and Billups would come in and slow the game down. Denver does not have a half court offense, so slowing the game down, was just hurting the team.

So it really doesn't matter if he is "that guy" or not. He did not fit the system. Lawson has been playing great as the starter and fits the system to a T. GK. however can't be trusted to keep Lawson as the starter if Billups is brought back. So Denver would be dumb to make that trade.

SARGO127 · Post #26 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:00 pm

BEST CASE SCENARIO

How about we do Fields, Douglas, cash for Lopez, 13

Trade up to 15, using 17+Walker and/or cash

13- Kemba
15-Bismack

BrOnXKing1 · Post #27 » by **BrOnXKing1** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:08 pm

Worst case scenario

Cavs - Kyrie Irving
Wolves - D.Williams
Jazz - Kanter
Cavs - Jan Vessely
Raptors - Brandon Knight
Wizards - Leonard
Kings - Kemba
Pistons - Tristan Thomas
Bobcats - Marcus Morris
Rockets via trade - Jonas
Warriors - Klay
Jazz - Jimmer
Suns - Singleton
Bucks via trade - Burks
Pacers - Brooks
Sixers - Biyombo

Who do we pick?

Ricezilla · Post #28 » by **Ricezilla** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:21 pm

BrOnXKing1 wrote:Worst case scenario

Cavs - Kyrie Irving
Wolves - D.Williams
Jazz - Kanter
Cavs - Jan Vessely
Raptors - Brandon Knight
Wizards - Leonard
Kings - Kemba
Pistons - Tristan Thomas
Bobcats - Marcus Morris
Rockets via trade - Jonas
Warriors - Klay
Jazz - Jimmer
Suns - Singleton
Bucks via trade - Burks
Pacers - Brooks
Sixers - Biyombo

Who do we pick?

Markieef aka Rasheed Wallace 2.0

Mecca · Post #29 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:03 am

Can't believe we could've gotten Flynn for nothing. SMH

I think we should work out a deal with Cleveland, as Ramon Sessions is on the way out.

NYK
Douglas
Walker
Balkman

CLE
Sessions
One of Samuels - Erden - Manny Harris - Harangody - Alonzo Gee

TheMan44 · Post #30 » by **TheMan44** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:03 am

Gambo620 John Gambadoro: (http://twitter.com/#!/Gambo620)
"Good chance NY drafted Shumpert to land Steve Nash at some pt. Shumpert does not fit into D'Antoni's system. Defensive PG who can't shoot."

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What u think Knick fellas? You want Nash? I think Iman Shumpert is a Suns pick cause Suns wanted him badly. Nash/Warrick (14 million) -for- Billups/Fields/Shumpert (15 million)

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #31 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:33 pm

Hell no.

aggo · Post #32 » by **aggo** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:19 pm

TheMan44 wrote:Gambo620 John Gambadoro: (http://twitter.com/#!/Gambo620)
"Good chance NY drafted Shumpert to land Steve Nash at some pt. Shumpert does not fit into D'Antoni's system. Defensive PG who can't shoot."

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What u think Knick fellas? You want Nash? I think Iman Shumpert is a Suns pick cause Suns wanted him badly. Nash/Warrick (14 million) -for- Billups/Fields/Shumpert (15 million)

he wont play at PG guys...

we're going to turn him into a SG.

Knckles · Post #33 » by **Knckles** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:00 pm

That's a horrible trade **** u

omerome · Post #34 » by **omerome** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:03 pm

TheMan44 wrote:Gambo620 John Gambadoro: (http://twitter.com/#!/Gambo620)
"Good chance NY drafted Shumpert to land Steve Nash at some pt. Shumpert does not fit into D'Antoni's system. Defensive PG who can't shoot."

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What u think Knick fellas? You want Nash? I think Iman Shumpert is a Suns pick cause Suns wanted him badly. Nash/Warrick (14 million) -for- Billups/Fields/Shumpert (15 million)

Absolutely not.

Even though I like Nash, I wouldn't do that trade at all.

SARGO127 · Post #35 » by **SARGO127** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:38 pm

That trade is GROSS

Marty McFly · Post #36 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:21 pm

Knckles wrote:That's a horrible trade **** u

no need for that though.

Marty McFly · Post #37 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:37 pm

i doubt we've got the means, but I'd love to get that wolves pick the clippers own next year.

Falstaffxx · Post #38 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:51 pm

omerome wrote:
TheMan44 wrote:Gambo620 John Gambadoro: (http://twitter.com/#!/Gambo620)
"Good chance NY drafted Shumpert to land Steve Nash at some pt. Shumpert does not fit into D'Antoni's system. Defensive PG who can't shoot."

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What u think Knick fellas? You want Nash? I think Iman Shumpert is a Suns pick cause Suns wanted him badly. Nash/Warrick (14 million) -for- Billups/Fields/Shumpert (15 million)

Absolutely not.

Even though I like Nash, I wouldn't do that trade at all.

Yeah, we may be "win now" but not to the point of giving up two good prospects and an expiring (who can still play) for a 38-year-old point guard upgrade when we can just stand pat and have a very solid veteran starting point guard in Billups. Plus Warrick is a scrub.

R-DAWG · Post #39 » by **R-DAWG** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:37 am

trade Billups expiring for 2 role players with longer contracts. For example, we would trade Billups, cash, and Fields and take back Devin Harris and Paul Millsap. UTA gets Billups to mentor Burks and save $16m, plus add a young wing in Fields. NY adds to above-average players in Millsap and Harris. Millsap will be a great glue guy off the bench and Harris is a good player, who hopefully can finally get it together under D'Antoni.

Yes the jump shot needs improvement and millsap is only 6-8, but our roster looks much more complete. Mia should've won the championship playing most 4th quarters with Bosh and Hasslem at the 4-5, I think Amare-Millsap is a better version of that.

Harris
Shumpert
Anthony
Stoudemire
Turiaf

Douglas
Millsap
Williams
Jordan

melo mvp 15 · Post #40 » by **melo mvp 15** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:54 am

That Nash deal is horrible for us.

I think we really have to try and trade Douglas for another rotation player.

Lopez or Casspi would be good.