1/16 Orlando Postgame thread

rdogg1026 · Post #21 » by **rdogg1026** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 pm

This board doesn't mind that Melo shot 9/27 because he made some FT's....

**** the Knicks seriously

br7knicks · Post #22 » by **br7knicks** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 pm

GONYK wrote:He absolutely got out talented. They have a better collection of role players who showed up today in a big way.

he absolutely did not get out talented. all of those role players could have been contained. especially with the players the knicks could've used to contain them. all those role players do is one thing and one thing only. all they had to do was stop that. TC did a great job on Howard and did not have to be double teamed.

he was clearly out coached and not out talented at all

MaseInYourFace · Post #23 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 pm

Tough loss. We didn't shoot ball well enough late to keep it close and maybe eek it out. I thought we did a heck of a job defensively on Howard. I thought Amar'e got a bad break getting into quick foul trouble. NBA officiating horrible and inconsistent, what's new?

That charging foul called on Fields (they got that one right) on the break was a back-breaker. If we score there we might have won the game. Instead Orlando gets ball back and kinda finished us off after that.

I don't have confidence we can ever integrate Melo and Amar'e sucessfully into offense with Dantoni coaching and without a PG...

TKF · Post #24 » by **TKF** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:they shot their open shots well. we didn't. it was really that simple.

so you don't think novak or josh should have been in the game at all?

Rasho Brezec · Post #25 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 pm

Da_Mane_Man wrote:tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

Chandler is the one guy who has a brain and knows switching on every screen is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). If I were him, I'd keep doing what is right and not what the idiot coaching staff tells me to.

iHeartKNicks · Post #26 » by **iHeartKNicks** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Amare screwed himself. His best position is center & thats apparent.

br7knicks · Post #27 » by **br7knicks** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

TKF wrote:OK.. I never blame the coach.. but today that changes..

First , we play a good defensive game.. not sure how the heck we let the bozo trio of anderson, stankylu and reddick, look like the celtics big 3, but just inexecusable..

the offense is still all melo, bail us out iso's, but at times we did have some good ball movement...

My big beef is with 6 minutes left, the magic go to a zone, and what does dantoni do? he goes with douglas? really, why not bring in harrelson along with novak.. why did we get him dantoni??? why!!!!!!!!!!! sit chandler, dwight was doing nothing, plus he can't hit FT's.. let amare guard dwight and let melo create and hit novak and jorts for shots.. shoot them out of the zone..

Honestly, if dantoni is going to mail it in.. just quit dude, QUIT!!! I watched vangundy go from Q richardson to earl clark trying to find matchups that work.. what do we do? we bench the best shooters while being stifled by zone...

yea, the players share some of the blame, amare still doesn't look comfortable, we missed open shots, but honestly, the coach didn't give us a chance to win....

To me, just trash the season if dantoni is going to mail it in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this

Post #28 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Da_Mane_Man wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

Give Chandler a break man, he played an excellent defensive game against Howard. If Chandler steps out on the shooters, Howard has a 30-20 game. Pick your poison.

i'll take howard with 30 points rather than anderson with 30 and reddick and turkoglu with whatever they had.

Howard with 30 in a win is much better than Anderson with 30 in a loss. Yep.

Red Vines · Post #29 » by **Red Vines** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

rdogg1026 wrote:This board doesn't mind that Melo shot 9/27 because he made some FT's....

**** the Knicks seriously

Most were good shots, he forced at the end because nobody else could make anything.

TKF · Post #30 » by **TKF** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Tough loss. We didn't shoot ball well enough late to keep it close and maybe eek it out. I thought we did a heck of a job defensively on Howard. I thought Amar'e got a bad break getting into quick foul trouble. NBA officiating horrible and inconsistent, what's new?

That charging foul called on Fields (they got that one right) on the break was a back-breaker. If we score there we might have won the game. Instead Orlando gets ball back and kinda finished us off after that.

I don't have confidence we can ever integrate Melo and Amar'e sucessfully into offense with Dantoni coaching and without a PG...

the charge on fields was a joke.. take that out.. after the pass charges are a complete joke... guys get hit and they fall... really a shamefull move... take that call out!!

Hemispheres · Post #31 » by **Hemispheres** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Looks like my post disappeared. But our team has no point guard and no outside shooting. D'Antoni's system is worthless here.

rdogg1026 · Post #32 » by **rdogg1026** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Red Vines wrote:
rdogg1026 wrote:This board doesn't mind that Melo shot 9/27 because he made some FT's....

**** the Knicks seriously

Most were good shots, he forced at the end because nobody else could make anything.

Just stop.

Clyde_Style · Post #33 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Said it in the game thread - Van Gundy makes D'Antoni like a corpse.

Rock Bottom · Post #34 » by **Rock Bottom** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:48 pm

On defensive and offensive end there was bad things but I think also some good things. Saw movement and more chemistry building, teamwork.. and hopefully Baron can add to what we can bring as a group from what I've seen..

Onto the next one..

MSGLegendNY · Post #35 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Reddick giving us mad credit....Trade Fields for Reddick.

Clyde_Style · Post #36 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Didn't realize Melo was 9/27. I only tuned in for the second half. oh well

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #37 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:49 pm

Positives

-Tyson played Howard PERFECTLY (with help from doubles, obviously)
-Melo got to the FT line
-Amar'e looked good in the 4th quarter
-Shump played well
-TONEY played well -- he should play like this every game -- style/attacking/etc (MPHARRIS, where you at!)
-Jorts gave good minutes
-Jared Jeffries played better than I ever expected him to play
-Moved the ball very nicely for the first 3 quarters
-Defense (aside from 3s)

Cons
-Couldn't get their shooters off the 3 point line...inexcusable defense. Miami and the 6ers are both willing to concede the mid-range jumper in order to keep the opposing team from shooting threes...why the f*ck can't we do that?
-Amar'e early foul trouble
-Couldn't get them out of their zone (Novak/Jorts?)
-Team missed open shots all game long
-Very little ball movement for us in the 4th (prior to the zone)

Oy...we had this...and we blew this.

[GR] · Post #38 » by **[GR]** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:49 pm

This team. I just can't

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #39 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:49 pm

Unless we lose all 3 games on this home stand, I don't think Mike is going anywhere. Unfortunately I think we are stuck with him all season.

god shammgod · Post #40 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:49 pm

TKF wrote:
god shammgod wrote:they shot their open shots well. we didn't. it was really that simple.

so you don't think novak or josh should have been in the game at all?

you're not gonna take out melo/tyson/amare at the end of a game. he could have brought in bibby. seriously though, not just in the 4th, we need our guards to make jumpers. it's the only reason they could stay in the zone. nobody can shoot.