Every Trade Since We Moved Ewing to Seattle

[duetta]

No complaints about Randolph while he was here. The acquisition didn't make sense with Eddy Fatso and Lee also in the house, but he turned out to be one of the guys we never should have let leave without getting equal compenation for. I understand and accept the rationale behind the Lebron move - but, in retrospect, we got hosed on that one as well.

[mpharris36]

2/24/2005: Knicks acquire Malik Rose, a 2005 first-rounder (David Lee), a 2006 first-rounder (Mardy Collins), and cash in exchange for Nazr Mohammed and Jamison Brewer.

10/4/2005: Knicks acquire Eddy Curry, Antonio Davis, and the right to swap 2007 first-rounders with the Bulls (ended up being Wilson Chandler) in exchange for Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Jermaine Jackson, pick swaps in 2006 and 2007 that ended up being LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah, a 2007 second-rounder (Kyrylo Fesenko), and a 2009 second-rounder (Jon Brockman). Guhhh.

I posted two trades. Probably the knicks best deal (even though Malik Rose had a terrible deal)


and the knicks worse deal. Eddy Curry, we could have actually began the rebouild in 2006 with good young big coming out in the draft and we traded it away from Eddy freakin Curry.

[frogfood]

I agree, let's never make a trade ever again.

[delvec19]

2/24/2005: Knicks acquire Malik Rose, a 2005 first-rounder (David Lee), a 2006 first-rounder (Mardy Collins), and cash in exchange for Nazr Mohammed and Jamison Brewer.

10/4/2005: Knicks acquire Eddy Curry, Antonio Davis, and the right to swap 2007 first-rounders with the Bulls (ended up being Wilson Chandler) in exchange for Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Jermaine Jackson, pick swaps in 2006 and 2007 that ended up being LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah, a 2007 second-rounder (Kyrylo Fesenko), and a 2009 second-rounder (Jon Brockman). Guhhh.

I posted two trades. Probably the knicks best deal (even though Malik Rose had a terrible deal)


and the knicks worse deal. Eddy Curry, we could have actually began the rebouild in 2006 with good young big coming out in the draft and we traded it away from Eddy freakin Curry.

Yep. Coudl have had Aldridge and Noah. But our FO prob would have passed on them for some euro trash or some dude with dreads.

[Daaaarryyl]

It would have been interesting had they sold high on Curry (coming off a 19 ppg season IIRC) right after the Randolph trade.

Problem would have been Curry's contract was uninsured and he had the heart condition.

[Honolulu Palms]

At least it seems like Bargnani deal was a great one. Let's change the tendency!

[Thorn]

Wow, this is good stuff. Well, some of it not so good, but it is impressive to have it all together. Thanks for posting it.

Thanks, it really opened my eyes.

I added two more trades to the list including the one for Bargnani, if I am missing anything please let me know and major kudos go to the original sources where I was able to pull this from.

[seren]

bring back old memories. too depressing to read the whole thing. life is tough for a knicks fan. at least we have the knicks dancers. oh wait...

[GONYK]

bring back old memories. too depressing to read the whole thing. life is tough for a knicks fan. at least we have the knicks dancers. oh wait...

We still have them

[Thorn]

So since things went down after Dolan took control, and around the time Ewing demanded a trade... do we call this the Dolan curse or the Ewing curse?

One thing I do not think we can argue is there is a lot of futility in that pattern of trades since Ewing was moved to Seattle, and what you clearly see is a blue print for mismanaging resources (draft picks, players, and cash).

I support calling it the "curse of the Dolino", or "Dolan's Curse".

[Mr Rabbit]

The McDyess and Eddy Curry trades were killers. Those are the types of moves that set you back for years.

[Marty McFly]

i don't want to relive those gory years.

[SmoothLefty21]

Reading through that list makes me wonder why I'm even a fan of this franchise.

[Thorn]

Reading through that list makes me wonder why I'm even a fan of this franchise.

It really does, more importantly for me... it shows a trend. It is not the GMs I feel are to blame that sort of spend it all now, throw it all in, offer more to get less (especially where a name is concerned, even if that name is old, washed up, or injured) WREAKS of involvement fro ma non-basketball person.

Jim Dolan.

That history shows me we will never win a thing unless he sells the team, or steps back and gives FULL CONTROL of basketball operations to someone else and does not meddle in any fashion.

The failure above is Dolan's and Dolan's alone, and I would like to apologize to Scott Layden... as terrible as he is, Dolan is worse.

[HarthorneWingo]

There should be an emoticon for "vomiting."

[Manhattan Project]

Trades I liked at the time:
- Othella Harrington, people forget he was a damn solid player.
- The McDyess trade. Yeah we were trading Camby, but McDyess would've been the best PF in the East, if not top two. Knicks had an interesting group of players and we got back a point guard I liked in college and a top five draft pick in Lampe. Nene was a someone who couldn't handle the boo's on draft night, I don't care that it's an emotional night for him. Then again I assumed Dice would be healthy again, until that fateful rebound.
- Marbury, we needed something on this team and we landed one of the better point guards in the league. Not to mention he was the hometown kid. However chemistry with the entire team was completely off, both he and KVH could've been a good duo. Don't really need to expand more on this now do I? Also we got Penny, even though a shell of himself he was one of my favorites growing up.
- Q trade, good value for us and we actually got a pick for a change. Respectable outside shot, gritty defense before he lost his back and shot.
- Darko we rolled the dice on a very talented big man, just never left the dog house.
- Zach Randolph, though I never understood why we kept Eddy Curry. Randolph was a talented big man even when we had him, even though our entire team was toxic at this point.
- Anthony Randolph considering that Lee was a dead man walking, I thought Randolph was a good return. Another guy that never really got out of the dog house.

Trades I hated at the time:
- Ewing. Even if a lot of fans resented him at this time you don't send him off like this.
- Anderson and Eisley, just hearing those names makes me cringe and fill with rage.
- Crawford I just didn't see the fit on this team, even if we got him for next to nothing. Not to mention we traded Frank Williams, the next superstar.
- Curry trade, even with all of his offense we gave the Bulls a pick dispensary.
- Rose trade, it was brutal that every GM knew they could dump their salary onto us.
- It gets worse when we take on salary and give away Ariza for Steve Francis... when we had a healthy Marbury... Larry BROWN!!!
- Keith Van Horn and Marbury had something going, so let's get Tim Thomas...

Trades I understood why they happened/Ineffable:
Everyone else.
I hated what we gave up for Melo, but we got Melo... so it's hard to complain.
A lot of the trades we've done over those years were emotional attachment guys like Ewing, Spree, Camby.

[GONYK]

There should be an emoticon for "vomiting."

[ca1]

So basically, what we already knew the Curry deal screwed us.

[[GR]]

The Marbury and Van Horn trades were excellent. Revisionism can't change that.



God, why did Isiah trade van horn for Thomas? The team looked good with the mormon

[Mr_Perfect]

The Marbury and Van Horn trades were excellent. Revisionism can't change that.



God, why did Isiah trade van horn for Thomas? The team looked good with the mormon

Marbury trade of 2 lottery picks, young talent and expiring contracts for Marbury and Penny Hardaway's awful contract was a great trade then and now?

I just spotted an Isiah disciple among us. Usually these type of people pretend they never supported Isiah. At least you're open about it.