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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#21 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:12 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.


Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.



Um no. The way he refers to non whites is racism.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#22 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:13 pm

Cruz and Rubio are much worse. Those 2 bozos will start wars left and right in the middle east. Trump atleast will negotiate with democrats the other republic candidates will not.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#23 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:14 pm

This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#24 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:15 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.


Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.



Um no. The way he refers to non whites is racism.


I've watched most of his speeches and his big thing is talking about illegal immigration. I haven't heard him say much about African Americans and or LEGAL hispanics.
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Post#25 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:15 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:Cruz and Rubio are much worse. Those 2 bozos will start wars left and right in the middle east. Trump atleast will negotiate with democrats the other republic candidates will not.



And Trump wont start wars? dude is fake cowboy in a designer suit.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#26 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:15 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.


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I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#27 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:16 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.



Um no. The way he refers to non whites is racism.


I've watched most of his speeches and his big thing is talking about illegal immigration. I haven't heard him say much about African Americans and or LEGAL hispanics.


Of course you would not notice it. There is a reason why there is so much unrest at trumps rallies...You can be blind to the undertone, but I would expect most to do so.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#28 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:18 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Cruz and Rubio are much worse. Those 2 bozos will start wars left and right in the middle east. Trump atleast will negotiate with democrats the other republic candidates will not.



And Trump wont start wars? dude is fake cowboy in a designer suit.


If he will start a war it will be agaisnt isis. He's mentioned bringing peace between Israel and palestine. That's a tough order but he's atleast talked about It. The other republic candidates do not want peace between those 2 nations.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#29 » by DeanTheDream » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:18 pm

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AndroidMan wrote:I think all the candidates are corrupted and there is no perfect candidate. Having said that, I truly enjoy Trump's campaign. Not because I agree with him or his policies, but because of the sheer entertainment it brings. He's bigoted, misogynous, and straight up low blow insults other candidates and their supporters. Never seen anything on this level in a national campaign. (Calling Cruz a pu$$y, telling protester to go run home to mommy, telling Hillary ff about Bill, etc.) He's like a battle rap MC running for President in some strange way.

He's more intelligent than people give him credit for, and not necessarily for his business acumen. While his business history is filled with failures, his intelligence, or his campaign's intelligence, really shines in formulating rhetoric that the common American wants to hear. That's the sheer genius of his campaign. While the rest of the established candidates try to play PC, Trump speaks to the anger of the people and goes no holds barred and it's working. In some ways, I don't think he even believes the things that come out of his mouth. Most of his campaign rhetoric is to shock and appeal to a certain portion of the electorate.

As far as a worst case scenario that he is elected, I'm not worried either. If he truly is terrible and can't lead, the people in Congress will look towards impeachment on any crucial presidential misstep. Considering he doesn't even have support of his party, impeachment shouldn't be that difficult. The more important decision is who he chooses as his running mate.

Either way, I'm just going to enjoy the show.


Yeah, I don't really care if he gets elected. There was a period in American history (after Andrew Jackson?) where the president was politically weak because the Congress/Senate were so strong. Country could survive 4 years of Trump.

Plus, I'm looking forward to a US president telling Kim Jong Il he has a small dick.


I'd assume he tones down substantially if he actually wins. Starting wars or going toe to toe with foreign leaders isn't a sound strategy. It will likely create more problems, conflict, and fallout then he's prepared to handle. Right now as a candidate alone, he can speak freely without too much consequence. Basically he's not the President now, and saying anything and everything doesn't hurt him, ATM, as he has nothing to lose. I'm sure he does he have a strong team of advisers and if elected, they will guide him to be more presidential while bing less litigious/contentious


Agree 100% - he's a smart guy obviously by how he has dominated the political landscape. If he wins I expect he will tone it down, put the proper experts in the proper places to run the country. If we survived 8 years under the current embarrassment who has divided the country and helped no one in the process, then we can survive Trump. Nothing wrong with a deal maker - Bill Clinton was one - so was Reagan - and that is when the Country prospered. This arrogant my way or the highway and vilifying your opposition instead of working with them, which is what this POTUS has done, has badly damaged this Country which is a mess at home and abroad. And Hillary will just be more of the same, amazing she, a serial liar or a socialist can ever be considered. That's how far left the Dem's have moved - they have become a scam, especially to the middle class and minorities - just for their votes, nothing more. I just cant wait until Jan. 20, 2017 when we are finally rid of the clown we have now.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#30 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:18 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.


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I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.



I know the picture is fake...Its the undertone of the campaign. The picture speaks the truth.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#31 » by Vash » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:21 pm

I want Trump or Sanders right off the bat. Clinton is the feminists, BLM darling though. She is all about corporations and continuing Obama's disaster.

Trump is at least honest and Anti PC/Feminists/BLM/Liberals. I love that is is a man's man. I do hate his corporate aganda.

Sanders is wonderful but he is all about feminists and liberals. I hated how he bows to them.

In the end I must pick Trump. The positives outweighs the negatives. He is PRO-MEN and is at least HONEST compared to the other choices. But if Sanders wins I am happy, but worry about men as a whole.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#32 » by DeanTheDream » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:22 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.


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I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.


Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#33 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:22 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:

Um no. The way he refers to non whites is racism.


I've watched most of his speeches and his big thing is talking about illegal immigration. I haven't heard him say much about African Americans and or LEGAL hispanics.


Of course you would not notice it. There is a reason why there is so much unrest at trumps rallies...You can be blind to the undertone, but I would expect most to do so.


Trump does talk about beating up protestors but this is after the protestor was throwing punches to people in the crowd. People fail to acknowledge that. And the unrest just began. These protestors have been disrupting since 2 years ago, way before trump ran for president. Remember ferguson, baltimore? These disruptors, agigators have been around for a while already. Blaming trump for the total unrest is unwarranted.

Mind you I'm not a big trump fan either. But I think he's definitely the less of two evils when you take in to account Rubio and Cruz who are extreme comservatives.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#34 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:23 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Cruz and Rubio are much worse. Those 2 bozos will start wars left and right in the middle east. Trump atleast will negotiate with democrats the other republic candidates will not.



And Trump wont start wars? dude is fake cowboy in a designer suit.


If he will start a war it will be agaisnt isis. He's mentioned bringing peace between Israel and palestine. That's a tough order but he's atleast talked about It. The other republic candidates do not want peace between those 2 nations.



Dude said ISLAM is our enemy...Not terrorists. He said ISLAM. You even saw it in this thread with some people praising him **** on ISLAM. His theme is not just "isis" Trump speaks so well to the hatred of this country. He actually is the perfect president for America. This the same country that arrested a Muslim child cause he built a clock, but because he is Islamic...he got detained for building a bomb.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#35 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:25 pm

DeanTheDream wrote:
AndroidMan wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Yeah, I don't really care if he gets elected. There was a period in American history (after Andrew Jackson?) where the president was politically weak because the Congress/Senate were so strong. Country could survive 4 years of Trump.

Plus, I'm looking forward to a US president telling Kim Jong Il he has a small dick.


I'd assume he tones down substantially if he actually wins. Starting wars or going toe to toe with foreign leaders isn't a sound strategy. It will likely create more problems, conflict, and fallout then he's prepared to handle. Right now as a candidate alone, he can speak freely without too much consequence. Basically he's not the President now, and saying anything and everything doesn't hurt him, ATM, as he has nothing to lose. I'm sure he does he have a strong team of advisers and if elected, they will guide him to be more presidential while bing less litigious/contentious


Agree 100% - he's a smart guy obviously by how he has dominated the political landscape. If he wins I expect he will tone it down, put the proper experts in the proper places to run the country. If we survived 8 years under the current embarrassment who has divided the country and helped no one in the process, then we can survive Trump. Nothing wrong with a deal maker - Bill Clinton was one - so was Reagan - and that is when the Country prospered. This arrogant my way or the highway and vilifying your opposition instead of working with them, which is what this POTUS has done, has badly damaged this Country which is a mess at home and abroad. And Hillary will just be more of the same, amazing she, a serial liar or a socialist can ever be considered. That's how far left the Dem's have moved - they have become a scam, especially to the middle class and minorities - just for their votes, nothing more. I just cant wait until Jan. 20, 2017 when we are finally rid of the clown we have now.



Bingo! I don't agree with everything trump says or does but he's the only candidate that will work with the other side. The others are not going to be flexible at. Some are too conservative and the others are too liberal. Bernie Sanders and his socialism views will destroy this country
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#36 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:26 pm

DeanTheDream wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.


Image


I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.


Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.



Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#37 » by Smash3 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:28 pm

Donald Drumpf basically decided he wanted to be president one day and he saw the easiest way to become one was turn up the right wing hate rhetoric to 1000; throw out the mexicans, stop the muslims etc again a lot of hate with a splash of oversimplified soundbites like: make America great again, make better deals and fix the economy. He´ll pretty much say anything to get elected, "the KKK? I can't denounce any group before studying them" the funny thing is people actually believe he cares about making America great or that he has a plan to vitalize the economy, all he wants to do is check off the president mark in his legacy.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#38 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:29 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:

And Trump wont start wars? dude is fake cowboy in a designer suit.


If he will start a war it will be agaisnt isis. He's mentioned bringing peace between Israel and palestine. That's a tough order but he's atleast talked about It. The other republic candidates do not want peace between those 2 nations.



Dude said ISLAM is our enemy...Not terrorists. He said ISLAM. You even saw it in this thread with some people praising him **** on ISLAM. His theme is not just "isis" Trump speaks so well to the hatred of this country. He actually is the perfect president for America. This the same country that arrested a Muslim child cause he built a clock, but because he is Islamic...he got detained for building a bomb.


Isis means the ISLAMIC state. There's a huge radical problem in Islam to deny that it doesn't exist is trying to be politically correct. Trump should have used his words better but there is some truth to what he's saying.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#39 » by NoLayupRule » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:30 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.


Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.

trump is a classic Nativist
but his supporters link that to racism as we've seen in how especially black, middle eastern and mexican americans are treated as non-americans. but they've expanded that to anyone who doesn't agree with them
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#40 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:30 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
DeanTheDream wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.


Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.



Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.


What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

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