OT: Both sides of the D-Rose Civil Case

[E-Balla]

she was pretty coherent in her texts. she wanted (actually she was begging) rose to come over and have sex with her. if your f-buddy is texting you to come over at 1am it's for one reason and one reason only.

lol, stop.

No he's right here. She clearly wanted Rose. The issue here is with the other 2 guys and whether or not they purposefully got her drunk because she wouldn't be able to consent.

[blueNorange]

she was pretty coherent in her texts. she wanted (actually she was begging) rose to come over and have sex with her. if your f-buddy is texting you to come over at 1am it's for one reason and one reason only.

lol, stop.

No he's right here. She clearly wanted Rose. The issue here is with the other 2 guys and whether or not they purposefully got her drunk because she wouldn't be able to consent.

meant the coherent part in her texts.

[Capn'O]

she was pretty coherent in her texts. she wanted (actually she was begging) rose to come over and have sex with her. if your f-buddy is texting you to come over at 1am it's for one reason and one reason only.

My (non-professional) sense is if they had just had sex and he had been a class act about it there would be no case. Regardless of anything she said, she probably wasn't down for the group sex situation and felt pressured into it... maybe even drank to try and accept it. Then got more pissed when Rose was being a cheap THOT about paying for the toys (learn from Jeter, you big dummies). Two years later, there's no hard evidence regarding how she felt about the act so they're trying it as a civil case and pushing the "too drunk" angle.

As E-Balla said, Rose shot himself in the foot with his dumbass comments. Just settle and move on.

[blueNorange]

the dumb comment of rose:

"we men"

"what's consent"

"she dresses slutty so she shouldn't feel ashamed after she got raped"

[thebuzzardman]

the dumb comment of rose:

"we men"

"what's consent"

"she dresses slutty so she shouldn't feel ashamed after she got raped"

Some women get raped.

Others want it.

[blueNorange]

the dumb comment of rose:

"we men"

"what's consent"

"she dresses slutty so she shouldn't feel ashamed after she got raped"

Some women get raped.

Others want it.

and you are an awful human being.

[thebuzzardman]

the dumb comment of rose:

"we men"

"what's consent"

"she dresses slutty so she shouldn't feel ashamed after she got raped"

Some women get raped.

Others want it.

and you are an awful human being.

Nothing awful in that statement, internet white knight.

Some women are raped, and it's a crime and a sin.
Other women actually want the d*ck, which is normal.
In this case, the woman in question is one of the other, and a jury may decide correctly which one she is. That's awful?

[trophywinner]

she was pretty coherent in her texts. she wanted (actually she was begging) rose to come over and have sex with her. if your f-buddy is texting you to come over at 1am it's for one reason and one reason only.

My (non-professional) sense is if they had just had sex and he had been a class act about it there would be no case. Regardless of anything she said, she probably wasn't down for the group sex situation and felt pressured into it... maybe even drank to try and accept it. Then got more pissed when Rose was being a cheap THOT about paying for the toys (learn from Jeter, you big dummies). Two years later, there's no hard evidence regarding how she felt about the act so they're trying it as a civil case and pushing the "too drunk" angle.

As E-Balla said, Rose shot himself in the foot with his dumbass comments. Just settle and move on.

the texts leading up to that night suggest she was willing, or at least open to group sex. look at her texts to rose a month before the "night". she says she will be "less selfish with her pussy the next time", and open to "sharing him with other bitches". and the day of, texts rose that she's bringing a girl on girl sex toy and her friend along. even goes into detail, telling rose that the friend she's bringing along is a masseuse. rose is an idiot if he didn't make that a point in his dep. or in the trial, when it/if it comes.

and she admitted to lying about having bought the sex toy (she already had it) and was asking rose for money because she was broke and was simply trying to get money out of him. and also, these guys are busy. they have rigorous training schedules, with the upcoming nba season on their mind. remember rose, at the time, was trying to come back from a knee injury. the last thing on his mind would be putting his schedule on hold to go to the bank and transfer some THOT petty money.

if rose giving her $200 would've avoided all of this, then that says all there is to know about this "case" and the accuser.

from whitebronco review of case details:

Over the next few days, Doe sent texts to Rose and became increasingly frustrated when he did not respond or give her money. Doe’s final text to Rose stated:

(9/3/13) “Stop the games, this is not a joke… I hope u serious this time.”

DAT THREAT.

[CJackson]

Some women get raped.

Others want it.

and you are an awful human being.

Nothing awful in that statement, internet white knight.

Some women are raped, and it's a crime and a sin.
Other women actually want the d*ck, which is normal.
In this case, the woman in question is one of the other, and a jury may decide correctly which one she is. That's awful?

They are probably asexual so what you said won't register. The only thing that seems to turn them on is passing premature judgment.

A nuanced mind understands people can be skanky and still fundamentally innocent, but their righteous BS cannot include that in their black and white world view

[JXL]

Seems more and more reporters are bringing this to light. Last thing the team needs are huge distractions.

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[Capn'O]

she was pretty coherent in her texts. she wanted (actually she was begging) rose to come over and have sex with her. if your f-buddy is texting you to come over at 1am it's for one reason and one reason only.

My (non-professional) sense is if they had just had sex and he had been a class act about it there would be no case. Regardless of anything she said, she probably wasn't down for the group sex situation and felt pressured into it... maybe even drank to try and accept it. Then got more pissed when Rose was being a cheap THOT about paying for the toys (learn from Jeter, you big dummies). Two years later, there's no hard evidence regarding how she felt about the act so they're trying it as a civil case and pushing the "too drunk" angle.

As E-Balla said, Rose shot himself in the foot with his dumbass comments. Just settle and move on.

the texts leading up to that night suggest she was willing, or at least open to group sex. look at her texts to rose a month before the "night". she says she will be "less selfish with her pussy the next time", and open to "sharing him with other bitches". and the day of, texts rose that she's bringing a girl on girl sex toy and her friend along. even goes into detail, telling rose that the friend she's bringing along is a masseuse. rose is an idiot if he didn't make that a point in his dep. or in the trial, when it/if it comes.

and she admitted to lying about having bought the sex toy (she already had it) and was asking rose for money because she was broke and was simply trying to get money out of him. and also, these guys are busy. they have rigorous training schedules, with the upcoming nba season on their mind. remember rose, at the time, was trying to come back from a knee injury. the last thing on his mind would be putting his schedule on hold to go to the bank and transfer some THOT petty money.

if rose giving her $200 would've avoided all of this, then that says all there is to know about this "case" and the accuser.

from whitebronco review of case details:

Over the next few days, Doe sent texts to Rose and became increasingly frustrated when he did not respond or give her money. Doe’s final text to Rose stated:

(9/3/13) “Stop the games, this is not a joke… I hope u serious this time.”

DAT THREAT.

She suggested she'd be open to including other women of her choosing. That is not consenting to group sex with other men and of Rose's choosing.

and

It is not relevant to the time of the incident where she could have said no or been too drunk to consent.



That matters. At the same time, there doesn't seem to be enough to suggest non-consent at a level that would pass criminal standards.

[trophywinner]

She suggested she'd be open to including other women of her choosing. That is not consenting to group sex with other men and of Rose's choosing.

and

It is not relevant to the time of the incident where she could have said no or been too drunk to consent.



That matters. At the same time, there doesn't seem to be enough to suggest non-consent at a level that would pass criminal standards.

meh groupsex is groupsex. part of the argument of her accusation is based on a history of her "turning down" rose's plans for any kind of groupsex, so since she turned him down every other time before, she couldn't have possibly consented any other time. which is plain baloney. people change their minds, situations/circumstances/emotions change.

and again, she was pretty coherent in her texts demanding that rose come over to give her the D. she was actually holding a conversation with rose over those texts.

all i'm saying is there's proof of her initiating sexual convo with rose, and being sexually suggestive all on her own. telling rose that SHE wants to send him videos of her in her shower with her vibrator, and about how she wants to be more accommodating to his sexual desires. all the while rose didn't even respond. not until he sent her a very classy text telling her he wasn't "messing with her like that anymore" and wishing her the best. a month later she showed up to rose's house with a sex toy in hand and her friend. i'm just having a tough time believing she's as naive as she's claiming right now.

[Capn'O]

meh groupsex is groupsex.

If that is your legal opinion, I suggest you fire your attorney.

part of the argument of her accusation is based on a history of her "turning down" rose's plans for any kind of groupsex, so since she turned him down every other time before, she couldn't have possibly consented any other time. which is plain baloney. people change their minds, situations/circumstances/emotions change.

and again, she was pretty coherent in her texts demanding that rose come over to give her the D. she was actually holding a conversation with rose over those texts.

all i'm saying is there's proof of her initiating sexual convo with rose, and being sexually suggestive all on her own. telling rose that SHE wants to send him videos of her in her shower with her vibrator, and about how she wants to be more accommodating to his sexual desires. all the while rose didn't even respond. not until he sent her a very classy text telling her he wasn't "messing with her like that anymore" and wishing her the best. a month later she showed up to rose's house with a sex toy in hand and her friend. i'm just having a tough time believing she's as naive as she's claiming right now.

I have not said definitively that it's rape. I have said that you cannot extrapolate consent from the previous conversations. Which you cannot.

[Kampuchea]

It seems like a money grab. At the same time I definitely dislike Rose, he's a sexual deviant and also an idiot. I hope he's off the team soon.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Rose is into sword fighting? I uh... Hope that in reality this is the worse possible thing about the story. Anyway, right or wrong rose should've settled out of court.

[trophywinner]

I have not said definitively that it's rape. I have said that you cannot extrapolate consent from the previous conversations. Which you cannot.

for groupsex, absolutely rose could. "i'll be less selfish with my pussy next time" or how about "i'll share you with other bitches". those were her texts to rose. this was a woman who had a 2 year relationship with rose based on just sex. they would literally only meet, for just sex. so her going to rose's house with a sex belt and her girlfriend speaks volumes on where she thought the night was going to go. also, she said she was drinking "heavily" on the way to rose's house...why? to me, this whole thing feels like she probably wasn't jumping to do it, but she felt the only way she would be able to keep rose from ending, what she believed was an "exclusive" relationship, was to accommodate and fulfill his sexual desires. but, there was no pressure on her, rose had already ended the relationship the month before, he was in the clear. why couldn't she just leave it at that and move on? instead she concocted a fake story to rose about how she went out to a girl on girl sex store, bought a strap on, and how she was going to bring her girlfriend along to join. she has gone on record to admitting that she was lying and telling rose what "she thought he wanted to hear" . that was her response to those texts....lol what? now you have to think about deception.