Jeff Hornacek says associate head coach Kurt Rambis won’t run Knicks defense this season

BeagleBoss · Post #21 » by **BeagleBoss** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:47 pm

Rambis coaching the D was great for the tank tho.

thebuzzardman · Post #22 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:29 pm

I honestly think the only reason Rambis is here is because Mills is very sensitive to firing another coach or anyone where it would mean eating salary. They did it with Phil, but that's it. Rambis gone after this year - I'm assuming he has a contract that runs to the end of the season.

thebuzzardman · Post #23 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:32 pm

Watch on YouTube

Besart19 · Post #24 » by **Besart19** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:15 am

Rambis was top assistant with the Lakers and has a lot knowledge about the game. You wont expect to be a good D team with the **** players we've had. And he was a good player, too...

omerome · Post #25 » by **omerome** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:20 am

Red Vines wrote:Because Rambis recommended Jeff for the job and they played together... Probably gone as soon as Rambis finds another opportunity.

There are no other opportunities lol. Rambis is like Herb Williams, he's not going anywhere.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #26 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:20 am

Besart19 wrote:Rambis was top assistant with the Lakers and has a lot knowledge about the game. You wont expect to be a good D team with the **** players we've had. And he was a good player, too...

He was a top assistant with Phil running the team with 2 GOAT players on the roster...so, yeah, I'm not taking that as being worth much. Also, you can be a good player and be a **** coach / GM. :-?

He should be off this team unless he's running the defense, in which case we're on for a full tank. He's a trash coach.

Besart19 · Post #27 » by **Besart19** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:06 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Rambis was top assistant with the Lakers and has a lot knowledge about the game. You wont expect to be a good D team with the **** players we've had. And he was a good player, too...

He was a top assistant with Phil running the team with 2 GOAT players on the roster...so, yeah, I'm not taking that as being worth much. Also, you can be a good player and be a **** coach / GM. He should be off this team unless he's running the defense, in which case we're on for a full tank. He's a trash coach.

"...the lead defensive coordinator on the Lakers from 2008- 2010."

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #28 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:59 am

Besart19 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Rambis was top assistant with the Lakers and has a lot knowledge about the game. You wont expect to be a good D team with the **** players we've had. And he was a good player, too...

He was a top assistant with Phil running the team with 2 GOAT players on the roster...so, yeah, I'm not taking that as being worth much. Also, you can be a good player and be a **** coach / GM. He should be off this team unless he's running the defense, in which case we're on for a full tank. He's a trash coach.

"...the lead defensive coordinator on the Lakers from 2008- 2010."

Ok...so?

ChilledAlex · Post #29 » by **ChilledAlex** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:04 pm

What is Rambis even good at? Why is he here since chief triangle is gone?

Post #30 » by **Thorn** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:33 pm

I am glad he was removed from the defensive coordinator role, it was a change that needed to happen. There was no way the players from last year had ANY faith left tin the mans abilities. Now, that said I do not think it is enough, his relationship with Jeff aside we gain nothing by keeping him here and I think as a sign of good faith eliminating Phil's boy from the team would send just the right message to the players.

WajaBawl · Post #31 » by **WajaBawl** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:47 pm

This is very bad for the tank. I think with the changes Jeff is making, we're gonna be a lot better this year than people expect.

Besart19 · Post #32 » by **Besart19** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:56 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
He was a top assistant with Phil running the team with 2 GOAT players on the roster...so, yeah, I'm not taking that as being worth much. Also, you can be a good player and be a **** coach / GM. He should be off this team unless he's running the defense, in which case we're on for a full tank. He's a trash coach.

"...the lead defensive coordinator on the Lakers from 2008- 2010."

Ok...so?

Two rings

Just saying...

He ain't an imbecile like many here try to illustrate. I would prefer Pop, Bud, JVG, Blatt, Carlisle, Ollie or Izzo here, but with Jeff and youngins, we shouldn't even bother.

Post #33 » by **moocow007** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:01 pm

Every time I hear Rambis' name I think of the scene from the Rock's movie Central Intelligence where the big secret service agent hands Kevin Harts character a tablet supposedly with evidence that Bob Stone is a traitor and instead it's logged into porn hub.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #34 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:01 pm

Besart19 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
"...the lead defensive coordinator on the Lakers from 2008- 2010."

Ok...so?

Two rings Just saying...

He ain't an imbecile like many here try to illustrate. I would prefer Pop, Bud, JVG, Blatt, Carlisle, Ollie or Izzo here, but with Jeff and youngins, we shouldn't even bother.

He's not an imbecile? Have you seen the defenses he's been "running" the last few years? What he ran in Minnesota? When he doesn't have top notch talent, he's absolute garbage...and the fact that the defenses where he was the "lead defensive coordinator" were good doesn't mean anything to me considering the talent he had then - the defense was pressure outside and funnel to the bigs. That's it. His rings also mean nothing. Horry has rings...who cares?

thebuzzardman · Post #35 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:08 pm

"We've decided to all be available to talk to about defense, doing it by committee."

Number of times a Knick player approaches Rambis to talk about defense this year.

2

1.) Courtney Lee has a question regarding a defensive set he really wants the answer to. Checks the line by Hornacek -3 players deep.
Corey Gaines - 3 players deep. Jerry Sichting - 4 players deep. Howard Eisley - 4 players deep. Checks Rambis. Zero players on his line. Says to himself, "Wtf, I'll ask Kurt"

2.) Enes Kanter feels bad for Rambis that no one has asked him a defensive question all year, asks him one during a practice near the game 65 mark.

Greenie · Post #36 » by **Greenie** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:17 pm

Why is he still here?

god shammgod · Post #37 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:27 pm

Greenie wrote:Why is he still here?

wondered that myself

Rambis, who replaced Derek Fisher as interim head coach two seasons ago, will benefit from Carmelo Anthony’s departure. Anthony wasn’t fond of Rambis and helped lobby against him getting the permanent position. Anthony and Rambis reportedly sparred verbally in the locker room at halftime of a game in Brooklyn in March over the team’s defensive woes.

Rambis is the last vestige of Derek Fisher’s original staff and stayed on after Phil Jackson’s dismissal because of his past friendship with Hornacek. They were teammates in Phoenix. Josh Longstaff, whom Fisher brought from Oklahoma City, was let go over the summer. Though a favorite of Kristaps Porzingis, Longstaff, according to sources, didn’t blend in well with the rest of the group.

http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/jeff-hornacek-kurt-rambis-not-in-charge-of-knicks-d-anymore/

Post #38 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:41 pm

Besart19 wrote:Rambis was top assistant with the Lakers and has a lot knowledge about the game. You wont expect to be a good D team with the **** players we've had. And he was a good player, too...

loved him as a player and always thought he'd make a good coach. maybe he's best as assistant pimp.

Post #39 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:42 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Greenie wrote:Why is he still here?

wondered that myself
Rambis, who replaced Derek Fisher as interim head coach two seasons ago, will benefit from Carmelo Anthony’s departure. Anthony wasn’t fond of Rambis and helped lobby against him getting the permanent position. Anthony and Rambis reportedly sparred verbally in the locker room at halftime of a game in Brooklyn in March over the team’s defensive woes.

Rambis is the last vestige of Derek Fisher’s original staff and stayed on after Phil Jackson’s dismissal because of his past friendship with Hornacek. They were teammates in Phoenix. Josh Longstaff, whom Fisher brought from Oklahoma City, was let go over the summer. Though a favorite of Kristaps Porzingis, Longstaff, according to sources, didn’t blend in well with the rest of the group.

http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/jeff-hornacek-kurt-rambis-not-in-charge-of-knicks-d-anymore/

kurt rambis the next herb

Besart19 · Post #40 » by **Besart19** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:24 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Ok...so?

Two rings Just saying...

He ain't an imbecile like many here try to illustrate. I would prefer Pop, Bud, JVG, Blatt, Carlisle, Ollie or Izzo here, but with Jeff and youngins, we shouldn't even bother.

He's not an imbecile? Have you seen the defenses he's been "running" the last few years? What he ran in Minnesota? When he doesn't have top notch talent, he's absolute garbage...and the fact that the defenses where he was the "lead defensive coordinator" were good doesn't mean anything to me considering the talent he had then - the defense was pressure outside and funnel to the bigs. That's it. His rings also mean nothing. Horry has rings...who cares?

He has a way of handling players," Jackson said of Rambis recently, via the Daily News. "He's relaxed yet he has the ability to keep them focused on the important parts of it. He's a defensive-oriented guy. I had him as my defensive coordinator for my teams in 2007, eight and nine. And I think he has a real good handle on that part. So we'll see how they go."

Let's ne fair man... we suck as a team... we didnt give effort, and Jeff even questioned the talent of the roster. Those above are words of the most succesfull coach in the NBA. Tex was the offensive coordinator while Kurt on the other side.

Many coaches have failed badly, but that doesnt mean that they are clueless and/or not knowledgable!

All assistants of Phil have failed in one way or another... thats another topic and needs to be analysed for sure