REDO: 2017 NBA Draft

[Greenie]

No idea. Especially since Fultz and Isaac have barely played.

But I will easily put Mitchell at 1. He's a star.

He moves up into the top 3.
Tatum is still younger, bigger and has more potential.

[Greenie]

Yeah it's too early for this. You could do 2016 draft though.

That was not a great draft at all.

[nedleeds]

1 PHI - Tatum
2 LAL - Mitchell
3 BOS - Markkanen
4 PHO - Ball
5 SAC - Fox
6 ORL - Smith Jr
7 MIN - Bam
8 NYK - Kuzma
9 DAL - Collins
10 SAC - Monk
11 CHO - Isaac
12 DET - Frank
13 DEN - OG
14 MIA - Collins
15 POR - Kennard
16 CHI - Isaac
17 MIL - Jarret Allen
18 IND - Leaf
19 ATL - Justin Jackson
20 POR - Bell

Josh Jackson is trash, Fultz is **** mentally ill. I'm banking on Minn thinking Jeff Teague is an actual viable PG, and ORL realizing Payton was getting shipped.

[3toheadmelo]

1 PHI - Tatum
2 LAL - Mitchell
3 BOS - Markkanen
4 PHO - Ball
5 SAC - Fox
6 ORL - Smith Jr
7 MIN - Bam
8 NYK - Kuzma
9 DAL - Collins
10 SAC - Monk
11 CHO - Isaac
12 DET - Frank
13 DEN - OG
14 MIA - Collins
15 POR - Kennard
16 CHI - Isaac
17 MIL - Jarret Allen
18 IND - Leaf
19 ATL - Justin Jackson
20 POR - Bell

Josh Jackson is trash, Fultz is **** mentally ill. I'm banking on Minn thinking Jeff Teague is an actual viable PG, and ORL realizing Payton was getting shipped.

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[nedleeds]

48% efg ... when does the statue go up? He's a small small forward who can't hit water with a **** oar. There are 5 of him in the G-League. He's a bench turd at best given his "hustle".

[newyorker4ever]

Spoiler:

i am going based off potential and the flashes i've seen
1. tatum
2. mitchell
3. josh jackson
4. DSJ
5. lonzo
6. lauri
7. fox
8. bam
9. kuzma
10. jarrett allen
11. john collins
12. og anunoby
13. josh hart
14 frank
15. monk

#6 too low for Lauri, i'd have him ahead of DSJ and J.Jackson.

[newyorker4ever]

You know if Frank N weren't on the board, DMitch would've been our guy. Somewhat bothers me since I liked him pre-draft. I don't compare Frank to anyone else but D-Mitch at this point. He's got some work to do.

I wonder if we/Phil would of taken L.Markkanan if he was still there at #8?? That's supposedly who he wanted if he was able to trade KP.

We could have L.Markkanan to go with Kyrie and other parts if we traded with Clev or we could of had L.Markkana to go with J.Tatum, J.Brown and another draft pick or two if we would of traded KP to Boston.

[Sark]

What is this now, the 4th or 5th rendition of this thread? Changes every time too.

[dakomish23]

1. PHI - Tatum
2. LAL - Mitchell
3. BOS - Lauri
4. PHX - Ball
5. SAC - Fox
6. ORL - DSJ
7. CHI - Jackson
8. NYK - Frank
9. DAL - DSJ
10. POR - Fultz
11. CHA - Isaac
12. DET - OG
13. UTA - BAM
14. MIA - Collins

[3toheadmelo]

48% efg ... when does the statue go up? He's a small small forward who can't hit water with a **** oar. There are 5 of him in the G-League. He's a bench turd at best given his "hustle".

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[Capn'O]

It’s going to be interesting looking back at this draft in a couple of years. As of right now this draft is looking MAD suspect.


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Very

It doesn't look star heavy to me but you've got a lot of starter level players in it, which was how it was billed. Like, a LOT of starter level players. Then a rare number of 19/20 yr old rookies that are already making a defensive impact (OG, Allen, Frank, Isaac before he went down, Bam).

That's a strong draft though you wouldn't put it on par with great drafts that produced great players ('84, '96).

[Knicksfan1992]

I'll do a mock lottery real quick (taking team needs into account) because I'm bored at work...

1. Sixers - Donovan Mitchell.

This was a hard one to peg really. Debating between 3 guys here (Tatum, Ball, and Mitchell). Went with Mitchell because of the way the Sixers roster is shaped they could use another playmaker out there with Simmons and Donovan is a good enough 3 point shooter where he can concede some duties to Simmons and still be ok spacing wise. As surprisingly adequate as Ben has been defending points this year, I still think long-term having him chasing the John Walls of the world in the p&r could have some negative effects on his body.. Also Philly already drafted their star so they didn't need to swing for the fences here. Mitchell will be at very worst a solid player for 10-15 years. Safe but sure #1 pick unlike what transpired in real life

2 - Lakers - Lonzo Ball

Same result as the actual Draft. Lakers are starved for overall talent and you could make the case that they would prefer Tatum over Ball because of BBB and all the hoopla but the Lakers had a serious hole at PG that needed to be filled pre IT trade and Lonzo was really starting to turn it up before the knee sprain and has been elite defensively all year. Still the most intriguing prospect in the draft IMO and the Lakers could do way worse with the 2nd pick.

3 - Celtics - Jayson Tatum

Look what they've done since he's got there. 'Nuff said

4 - Suns - De'Aaron Fox

This is purely a fit pick. I do not think, as of now, Fox is the 4th best player in this draft, however, knowing what we know now about how the Suns felt about Bledsoe this becomes a no brainer. Fox can't shoot but should be above average defensively and provides another playmaking option next to Booker. A future backcourt of Fox and Booker would be very intriguing to Suns fans I would imagine.

5 - Kings - Josh Jackson

Was deciding between JJ, Kuz, and DSJ here as BPA. The Kings with an eye on the future take JJ knowing he has the higher ceiling and they have time to wait and develop him. Starved for elite talent, in general, the Kings swing for the fences here hoping JJ can turn into a Shawn Marion type all around wing.

6 - Magic - DSJ

Should have been their pick. Not that I hate Isaac, but he just doesn't make sense with their current roster construction with AG being a more souped up version of what he is. DSJ will put butts in the seats and has a lot of talent to mold into a full time pg. They weren't high on Payton. This provides them a real back up plan for when he left and possibly a future star.

7 - Bulls - Kyle Kuzma

Kuzma finds his landing spot here. Bulls were in a position to take BPA and tank another year. With how Kuzma is playing this year it's hard to deny him as BPA at this spot even though I'm not as sold as others on him. Bulls need talent everywhere. Kuzma and Lavine are an interesting big wing tandem but brutal defensively.

8 - Knicks - Markelle Fultz

Knicks are in a brutal spot here. All of the elite and safe talent seemingly gone. Deciding between a guy who forgot how to shoot, complete projects (Frank, Ferguson, Jarrett Allen, Monk, John Collins, Jordan Bell), and low ceiling guys (Kennard, Adebayo, Zach Collins) is not exactly where you wanna be at the start of a rebuild. Luckily the Knicks have KP in the holster as insurance if they bomb this pick. In the end, I decided that the Knicks who need more elite talent can take the risk on Fultz and commit to another tank in the 2017-18 season.

9 - Mavericks - Frank Ntilikina

In the same position as the Knicks, the Mavs desperately need talent and are unfortunately about 3 picks too late away from the elite talent. Having a competent PG is very important in the modern NBA and so the Mavs hope that Carlisle can turn Frank into a 2 way demon for many years to come. Thye'll be looking forward to getting an elite big in the next draft as their tank become extremely strong.

10 - Portland - Bam Adebayo

Bam could provide a little bit of what they seemingly valued with DAJ at the deadline. His ability to switch onto smaller players is extremely valuable in today's NBA and Portland has the guns offensively to make up for his limited offensive game for the next 5 years. Can't think of a better fit here tbh.

11- Charlotte - Terrence Ferguson

Clifford gets a raw mold of length, athleticism and toughness to mold into a productive 2 way wing. Not an elite talent, but could provide a nice cost controlled boost to Charlotte's wing.

12 - Pistons - Malik Monk

Pre Griffin trade this team was a hodge podge of mediocre to above average talent. With their big situation seemingly figured out pre and post trade they swing for the fences on a dynamic guard who can light it up at a moment's notice and a floor spacer in the future for Blake and Andre.

13 - Jazz - Luke Kennard

Type of player Snyder can mold to be a productive 6th man and spot starter. With the Jazz's principle of constant motion on offense and their ability to cover defensively Kennard should fit like a glove here. Unfortunately in this virtual world they miss out on the explosive talent of Mitchell but I can see Snyder getting the best out of an intriguing end of lottery prospect in Kennard.

14 - Miami Heat - Jordan Bell

Would fit perfectly with Spo's blitzing defensive scheme as Bell can function as a menacing undersized 5 who doesn't mind chasing perimeter guys. Will never be offensively but you could do worse with the last lottery pick here.

Edit: Forgot Markannen. He would be somewhere between 10-15 making the most sense on either Portland or Miami

[Mecca]

I'll do a mock lottery real quick (taking team needs into account) because I'm bored at work...

1. Sixers - Donovan Mitchell.

This was a hard one to peg really. Debating between 3 guys here (Tatum, Ball, and Mitchell). Went with Mitchell because of the way the Sixers roster is shaped they could use another playmaker out there with Simmons out there and Donovan is a good enough 3 point shooter where he can concede some duties to Simmons and still be ok spacing wise. As surprisingly adequate as Ben has been defending points this year, I still think long-term having him chasing the John Walls of the world in the p&r could have some negative effects on his body.. Also Philly already drafted their star so they didn't need to swing for the fences here. Mitchell will be at very worst a solid player for 10-15 years. Safe but sure #1 pick unlike what transpired in real life

2 - Lakers - Lonzo Ball

Same result as the actual Draft. Lakers are starved for overall talent and you could make the case that they would prefer Tatum over Ball because of BBB and all the hoopla but the Lakers had a serious hole at PG that needed to be filled pre IT trade and Lonzo was really starting to turn it up before the knee sprain and has been elite defensively all year. Still the most intriguing prospect in the draft IMO and the Lakers could do way worse with the 2nd pick.

3 - Celtics - Jayson Tatum

Look what they've done since he's got there. 'Nuff said

4 - Suns - De'Aaron Fox

This is purely a fit pick. I do not think, as of now, Fox is the 4th best player in this draft, however, knowing what we know now about how the Suns felt about Bledsoe this becomes a no brainer. Fox can't shoot but should be above average defensively and provides another playmaking option next to Booker. A future backcourt of Fox and Booker would be very intriguing to Suns fans I would imagine.

5 - Kings - Josh Jackson

Was deciding between JJ, Kuz, and DSJ here as BPA. The Kings with an eye on the future take JJ knowing he has the higher ceiling and they have time to wait and develop him. Starved for elite talent, in general, the Kings swing for the fences here hoping JJ can turn into a Shawn Marion type all around wing.

6 - Magic - DSJ

Should have been their pick. Not that I hate Isaac, but he just doesn't make sense with their current roster construction with AG being a more souped up version of what he is. DSJ will put butts in the seats and has a lot of talent to mold into a full time pg. They weren't high on Payton. This provides them a real back up plan for when he left and possibly a future star.

7 - Bulls - Kyle Kuzma

Kuzma finds his landing spot here. Bulls were in a position to take BPA and tank another year. With how Kuzma is playing this year it's hard to deny him as BPA at this spot even though I'm not as sold as others on him. Bulls need talent everywhere. Kuzma and Lavine are an interesting big wing tandem but brutal defensively.

8 - Knicks - Markelle Fultz

Knicks are in a brutal spot here. All of the elite and safe talent seemingly gone. Deciding between a guy who forgot how to shoot, complete projects (Frank, Ferguson, Jarrett Allen, Monk, John Collins, Jordan Bell), and low ceiling guys (Kennard, Adebayo, Zach Collins) is not exactly where you wanna be at the start of a rebuild. Luckily the Knicks have KP in the holster as insurance if they bomb this pick. In the end, I decided that the Knicks who need more elite talent can take the risk on Fultz and commit to another tank in the 2017-18 season.

9 - Mavericks - Frank Ntilikina

In the same position as the Knicks, the Mavs desperately need talent and are unfortunately about 3 picks too late away from the elite talent. Having a competent PG is very important in the modern NBA and so the Mavs hope that Carlisle can turn Frank into a 2 way demon for many years to come. Thye'll be looking forward to getting an elite big in the next draft as their tank become extremely strong.

10 - Portland - Bam Adebayo

Bam could provide a little bit of what they seemingly valued with DAJ at the deadline. His ability to switch onto smaller players is extremely valuable in today's NBA and Portland has the guns offensively to make up for his limited offensive game for the next 5 years. Can't think of a better fit here tbh.

11- Charlotte - Terrence Ferguson

Clifford gets a raw mold of length, athleticism and toughness to mold into a productive 2 way wing. Not an elite talent, but could provide a nice cost controlled boost to Charlotte's wing.

12 - Pistons - Malik Monk

Pre Griffin trade this team was a hodge podge of mediocre to above average talent. With their big situation seemingly figured out pre and post trade they swing for the fences on a dynamic guard who can light it up at a moment's notice and a floor spacer in the future for Blake and Andre.

13 - Jazz - Luke Kennard

Type of player Snyder can mold to be a productive 6th man and spot starter. With the Jazz's principle of constant motion on offense and their ability to cover defensively Kennard should fit like a glove here. Unfortunately in this virtual world they miss out on the explosive talent of Mitchell but I can see Snyder getting the best out of an intriguing end of lottery prospect in Kennard.

14 - Miami Heat - Jordan Bell

Would fit perfectly with Spo's blitzing defensive scheme as Bell can function as a menacing undersized 5 who doesn't mind chasing perimeter guys. Will never be offensively but you could do worse with the last lottery pick here.

You forgot Lauri famo

[Knicksfan1992]

I'll do a mock lottery real quick (taking team needs into account) because I'm bored at work...

1. Sixers - Donovan Mitchell.

This was a hard one to peg really. Debating between 3 guys here (Tatum, Ball, and Mitchell). Went with Mitchell because of the way the Sixers roster is shaped they could use another playmaker out there with Simmons out there and Donovan is a good enough 3 point shooter where he can concede some duties to Simmons and still be ok spacing wise. As surprisingly adequate as Ben has been defending points this year, I still think long-term having him chasing the John Walls of the world in the p&r could have some negative effects on his body.. Also Philly already drafted their star so they didn't need to swing for the fences here. Mitchell will be at very worst a solid player for 10-15 years. Safe but sure #1 pick unlike what transpired in real life

2 - Lakers - Lonzo Ball

Same result as the actual Draft. Lakers are starved for overall talent and you could make the case that they would prefer Tatum over Ball because of BBB and all the hoopla but the Lakers had a serious hole at PG that needed to be filled pre IT trade and Lonzo was really starting to turn it up before the knee sprain and has been elite defensively all year. Still the most intriguing prospect in the draft IMO and the Lakers could do way worse with the 2nd pick.

3 - Celtics - Jayson Tatum

Look what they've done since he's got there. 'Nuff said

4 - Suns - De'Aaron Fox

This is purely a fit pick. I do not think, as of now, Fox is the 4th best player in this draft, however, knowing what we know now about how the Suns felt about Bledsoe this becomes a no brainer. Fox can't shoot but should be above average defensively and provides another playmaking option next to Booker. A future backcourt of Fox and Booker would be very intriguing to Suns fans I would imagine.

5 - Kings - Josh Jackson

Was deciding between JJ, Kuz, and DSJ here as BPA. The Kings with an eye on the future take JJ knowing he has the higher ceiling and they have time to wait and develop him. Starved for elite talent, in general, the Kings swing for the fences here hoping JJ can turn into a Shawn Marion type all around wing.

6 - Magic - DSJ

Should have been their pick. Not that I hate Isaac, but he just doesn't make sense with their current roster construction with AG being a more souped up version of what he is. DSJ will put butts in the seats and has a lot of talent to mold into a full time pg. They weren't high on Payton. This provides them a real back up plan for when he left and possibly a future star.

7 - Bulls - Kyle Kuzma

Kuzma finds his landing spot here. Bulls were in a position to take BPA and tank another year. With how Kuzma is playing this year it's hard to deny him as BPA at this spot even though I'm not as sold as others on him. Bulls need talent everywhere. Kuzma and Lavine are an interesting big wing tandem but brutal defensively.

8 - Knicks - Markelle Fultz

Knicks are in a brutal spot here. All of the elite and safe talent seemingly gone. Deciding between a guy who forgot how to shoot, complete projects (Frank, Ferguson, Jarrett Allen, Monk, John Collins, Jordan Bell), and low ceiling guys (Kennard, Adebayo, Zach Collins) is not exactly where you wanna be at the start of a rebuild. Luckily the Knicks have KP in the holster as insurance if they bomb this pick. In the end, I decided that the Knicks who need more elite talent can take the risk on Fultz and commit to another tank in the 2017-18 season.

9 - Mavericks - Frank Ntilikina

In the same position as the Knicks, the Mavs desperately need talent and are unfortunately about 3 picks too late away from the elite talent. Having a competent PG is very important in the modern NBA and so the Mavs hope that Carlisle can turn Frank into a 2 way demon for many years to come. Thye'll be looking forward to getting an elite big in the next draft as their tank become extremely strong.

10 - Portland - Bam Adebayo

Bam could provide a little bit of what they seemingly valued with DAJ at the deadline. His ability to switch onto smaller players is extremely valuable in today's NBA and Portland has the guns offensively to make up for his limited offensive game for the next 5 years. Can't think of a better fit here tbh.

11- Charlotte - Terrence Ferguson

Clifford gets a raw mold of length, athleticism and toughness to mold into a productive 2 way wing. Not an elite talent, but could provide a nice cost controlled boost to Charlotte's wing.

12 - Pistons - Malik Monk

Pre Griffin trade this team was a hodge podge of mediocre to above average talent. With their big situation seemingly figured out pre and post trade they swing for the fences on a dynamic guard who can light it up at a moment's notice and a floor spacer in the future for Blake and Andre.

13 - Jazz - Luke Kennard

Type of player Snyder can mold to be a productive 6th man and spot starter. With the Jazz's principle of constant motion on offense and their ability to cover defensively Kennard should fit like a glove here. Unfortunately in this virtual world they miss out on the explosive talent of Mitchell but I can see Snyder getting the best out of an intriguing end of lottery prospect in Kennard.

14 - Miami Heat - Jordan Bell

Would fit perfectly with Spo's blitzing defensive scheme as Bell can function as a menacing undersized 5 who doesn't mind chasing perimeter guys. Will never be offensively but you could do worse with the last lottery pick here.

You forgot Lauri famo

yeah just put the edit in. good lookin

[Greenie]

What is this now, the 4th or 5th rendition of this thread? Changes every time too.

It’s supposed to change.

[Brazilian Knick]

1. Donovan Mitchell
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Kyle Kuzma
4. Lauri Markkanen
5. Josh Jackson
6. Lonzo Ball
7. De’Aaron Fox
8. Dennis Smith Jr.
9. John Collins
10. Jarrett Allen
11. Bam Adebayo
12. Josh Hart
13. Luke Kennard
14. Jordan Bell
15. Dillion Brooks
16. Frank Mason
17. Frank Ntilikina
18. Justin Jackson
19. OG Anunoby
20. Jawun Evans
21. Malik Monk
22. Zach Collins
23. Sterling Brown
24. Jonathan Isaac
25. Ivan Rabb
26. Markelle Fultz
27. Tyler Dorsey
28. Wes Iundu
29. Terrance Ferguson
30. Caleb Swanigan

Ps.: Imo Fultz and Isaac would be late-first rounders because there isn't much to say about their rookie season, and both struggled before having serious injuries in the beginning of the season. However, they still can be considered interesting young players, even though we can't say whether or not they'll fully recover from their injuries.

[Greenie]

1. PHI - Tatum
2. LAL - Mitchell
3. BOS - Lauri
4. PHX - Ball
5. SAC - Fox
6. ORL - DSJ
7. CHI - Jackson
8. NYK - Frank
9. DAL - DSJ
10. POR - Fultz
11. CHA - Isaac
12. DET - OG
13. UTA - BAM
14. MIA - Collins

Frank drops out of the top 10 IMO.

[3toheadmelo]

idk why people are complaining about how this is super early. who cares? this is just for fun. knicks are miserable to talk about now anyways....

[Greenie]

idk why people are complaining about how this is super early. who cares? this is just for fun. knicks are miserable to talk about now anyways....

Basically.
Wake me when Heffe is fired.

[Capn'O]

Great writeup, 1992. TBH, I'd still put Lauri with the Bulls. Or SlimJon. Poor Isaac has gotten the short end with his bizarre ankle issues.