Official Frank Ntilikina Thread

[mpharris36]

somebody keeps writing that we need to trade someone, or let trier go, if we pick higher than 5th to have enough cap space for kd/kyrie. i don't know for sure that's correct but frank would be the likely guy then.

im not sure if thats true because I'm not sure he is counting the cap holds that come off the board when the pick and 2 FA's that come.

But if Kyrie does come why wouldn't you just get rid of DSJ? He is not going to be happy with that backup role and he can't play with kyrie even though people argument is you know kyrie will miss games. Frank is better fit in terms of a backup guard and someone who compliment kyrie/KD better. Need someone to defend the beal/harden/curry's of the world so those guys can do what they do best and score and not worry about putting in that effort on the defensive end.

Kyrie signs, Knicks trade Trier, Frank, DSJr, Dotson, 2019 #1 pick + Mav's picks for AD, Mudiay comes back as SG.

And you'll like it.

i don't have to!

[Kampuchea]

We run our offense through Deandre now so Frank needs to get acclimated. It's a variation of the old Don Nelson "Point Forward" we now have a "Point Center."

[mpharris36]

Why does Fiz need Frank to practice first?

We don't have a game plan on either end that he needs to get reacquainted with.

I think mudiay played right off his injury as well...fishy

[omerome]

Why does Fiz need Frank to practice first?

We don't have a game plan on either end that he needs to get reacquainted with.

Right.

Frank has been on the team since he was drafted. I think he knows the plays by now. Fiz should just let him play and live with the results.

[Jscratch1200]

Why does Fiz need Frank to practice first?

We don't have a game plan on either end that he needs to get reacquainted with.

I think mudiay played right off his injury as well...fishy

Gotta make sure Frank knows how to tank. Can't have anybody going in there playing to win. Stat padding will be allowed though.

[NYKAL]

That's a long thumb

I hope he gets plenty of minutes down the stretch. Mudiay, take a seat, please.

he must be related to Arsenio Hall

[NYKAL]

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I, for one have been critical of Frank and stated his defense has seen some slippage. Therefore, I take offense to your use of the word "idiot".

Secondly, clearly Mitchell is going out of his way to be kind during a time when Frank is in a period of down-turn. He is having an awful season, currently still out longer than initially anticipated, and has lost a clearly defined role several times during his tenure here. With management effectively seeking options to replace him at his position multiple times over the past two years (Mudiay, Smith Jr., etc.)

Mitchell is one of his closest friends in the NBA, being from the same draft class. He even sat with Frank at the table on Draft Night. So of course he will speak highly and complimentary of his boy while he is in the midst of turmoil. Frank is a nice kid. People are going to be positive about him and his career outlook, especially if they like him personally.

Let's not forget Ramon Sessions once proclaimed he reminded him of Kyrie Irving offensively.

This isn't exactly Embiid co-signing Mitchell Robinson ON THE SPOT and IN THE MOMENT while having no connection to him.

What exactly is he supposed to say when prodded by reporters? "Yeah, Frank is my dude but he does kinda suck. I should have definitely been drafted before him. The Garden could have been my stage for 41 games a year if it weren't for Phil and some long ass arms".

i’ll choose to take mitchell for his word. thanks though.

Wait, so should we also have taken KD's word as well regarding Jimmer Fridette?

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Or can we just assume top that top tier guys aren't going to say bad things about nice youngsters? Your world. How you percieve it is up to you.

players are often the absolute worst at evaluating talent

[NYKAL]

i'm 90 percent sure that frank is gone on draft night to give the knicks some additional cap space

i probably lean that way now as well. It's like they see him as phil's last remaining piece of the team and they don't care to give him the same shot as any of the other guys have had who have struggled just as much.

oh well it is what it is and frank isn't going to make or break this roster. I just feel like it would be short sited to give up on the kid this early especially with what he potentially can bring to a team that struggles to guard on the perimeter.

somebody keeps writing that we need to trade someone, or let trier go, if we pick higher than 5th to have enough cap space for kd/kyrie. i don't know for sure that's correct but frank would be the likely guy then.

you bring a Kyrie in you HAVE to keep Frank to make up for his lack of defense. In that scenario, he is more important than any guard not named Dot. Dots is the only one to KILL his position....(even if it took him 3quarters of the season to do it)he should be allowed to eat very well next season.

[Jeff Van Gully]

lemme interpret athlete quotes based on what ya’ll think

you all live in your own worlds.

You don't have to interpret anything. Durant already told you Fridette is the best scorer in the world. You can live in that world.

what a strange equivalency you're making here.

[Jeff Van Gully]

That's a long thumb

I hope he gets plenty of minutes down the stretch. Mudiay, take a seat, please.

he must be related to Arsenio Hall

excellent reference

[Jeff Van Gully]

Why does Fiz need Frank to practice first?

We don't have a game plan on either end that he needs to get reacquainted with.

i'm hoping it has more to do with how he physically responds to full speed action.

[NYKAL]

Why does Fiz need Frank to practice first?

We don't have a game plan on either end that he needs to get reacquainted with.

i'm hoping it has more to do with how he physically responds to full speed action.

it not odd. You want him to practice and see that there are no ill effects. Groin injuries can easily be aggravated if not fully healed.

[SmoothLefty21]

players are often the absolute worst at evaluating talent

Reminds me of years back when Melo was begging the FO to draft that bum Josh Selby.

[DOT]

It's whatever to me at this point

It's pretty clear that plan A is to go into next season with a guard rotation of Kyrie/DSJ and Dot/Trier, and I'd be willing to bet if they can't bring in Kyrie, Mudiay is plan B

So unless Frank grows 2 inches and puts on 30 pounds in the offseason, he's gone. I think it's stupid to give up on him so early when he's shown such great defensive potential, but nothing I can do about it

[Fat Kat]

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Something’s up.

[malik959]

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i’ll choose to take mitchell for his word. thanks though.

Wait, so should we also have taken KD's word as well regarding Jimmer Fridette?

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Or can we just assume top that top tier guys aren't going to say bad things about nice youngsters? Your world. How you percieve it is up to you.

players are often the absolute worst at evaluating talent

Yeah like when an unnamed player from Cleveland said one man's trash is another man's treasure (JR Swiff and Trumpert)

[GONYK]

Who cares about what Durant said about Jimmer or LeBron said about JR?

Mitchell said something about Frank that can be verified.

Did Frank shut Mitch down at MSG last year or not?

[HarthorneWingo]

Thumb reach: 8 inches

[HarthorneWingo]

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Something’s up.

Yeah, our coach is an imbecile.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

i probably lean that way now as well. It's like they see him as phil's last remaining piece of the team and they don't care to give him the same shot as any of the other guys have had who have struggled just as much.

oh well it is what it is and frank isn't going to make or break this roster. I just feel like it would be short sited to give up on the kid this early especially with what he potentially can bring to a team that struggles to guard on the perimeter.

somebody keeps writing that we need to trade someone, or let trier go, if we pick higher than 5th to have enough cap space for kd/kyrie. i don't know for sure that's correct but frank would be the likely guy then.

you bring a Kyrie in you HAVE to keep Frank to make up for his lack of defence. In that scenario, he is more important than any guard not named Dot. Dots is the only one to KILL his position....(even if it took him 3quarters of the season to do it)he should be allowed to eat very well next season.

It's pretty clear that plan A is to go into next season with a guard rotation of Kyrie/DSJ and Dot/Trier, and I'd be willing to bet if they can't bring in Kyrie, Mudiay is plan B

My main theory about the Pills is that they like improvising/improvisers. They are Birdland. They should be trying to keep as much freedom to elevate and decide in the air as possible - and I do think they understand that.

I'm 99% sure that they give a rookie minimum contract in the first week of April for the remainder of the year (so a nice ~$20k top up for whoever is the contractee) and either (i) a team option for next year or (ii) non-guaranteed for next year to either (a) Billy Garrett or (b) Kadeem Allen.

It's a complicated situation as of right now. Things do become a little simpler once we get to May 20 and the lottery takes place and one knows who has which picks. But it still isn't simple.

The Knicks have contrary pulls of wanting to ensure enough salary space for KD + KI and having enough tradeable salary still on the books (assuming they get them) to trade for a star (eg, AD).

re K-DOT's plans: where does the draft pick fit into those? 86% of the time you don't get Zion. Are you really avoiding guards ("after Zion it's guards all the way down", T.Pratchett)? Do you Bol Bol gamBol ?