[The Athletic] - ‘A diabolical genius’: The new bright mind [Brock Aller] in the Knicks front office

Jimmit79 · Post #21 » by **Jimmit79** » Fri May 22, 2020 8:09 pm

In a way it's like all our GM building the teams last two decade without a leader or a pg and thinking of playoff lol.

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Post #22 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Fri May 22, 2020 8:47 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:With Frank and DSJr up for drop/resign/trade this year, this is helpful there as well.
Also, ramifications around Mitch and when/how he gets more money
Etc

yep. being stone cold realist, it's hard to see either frank or DSJ being positive value propositions on their next contracts. something drastic would have to happen in either of their cases. but then catch-22. if it does, they need to get paid.

Post #23 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:00 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:Rose as assembled supporting cast but his GM the decision maker is Scott Perry this is like pin up a suburu with mrf wheels to go race with real actual mrf lmao.

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he could be surrounded by folks who can't let him fail... or will take his job if he doesn't do right.

i'm hoping leon is keeping perry around because he sees some value in him and will use him in the right way.

Post #24 » by **GONYK** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:13 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Jimmit79 wrote:Rose as assembled supporting cast but his GM the decision maker is Scott Perry this is like pin up a suburu with mrf wheels to go race with real actual mrf lmao.

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he could be surrounded by folks who can't let him fail... or will take his job if he doesn't do right.

i'm hoping leon is keeping perry around because he sees some value in him and will use him in the right way.

Perry has proven he can execute. He just has no vision or creativity.

We've now brought on people who provide those other things.

F N 11 · Post #25 » by **F N 11** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:32 pm

Mills wanted Fizdale Perry wanted Budenholzer. Look man, Mills the bum is gone. I bet he was all for playing the vets as well. Justifying it by their pay check.

With the new guys in the front office and a respected former agent, I feel great to be honest.

Post #26 » by **dakomish23** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:38 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
This guy is going to trade Randle for a giant TPE and you'll like it!

???

Non useful spin move traded for useful spin move

Post #27 » by **dakomish23** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:39 pm

Finally

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JBreezeNY · Post #28 » by **JBreezeNY** » Fri May 22, 2020 10:03 pm

For the folks that were still waiting on an analytic guy after we hired him & Perrin, does this calm you?

Post #29 » by **Capn'O** » Fri May 22, 2020 10:09 pm

JBreezeNY wrote:For the folks that were still waiting on an analytic guy after we hired him & Perrin, does this calm you?

This isn't an analytics guy. He's on the fiscal/cap side. The analytics side being much more granular about basketball tactics/skills. And we don't need "a guy" (we have one). We need a staff.

The fiscal side is in good shape. Perry was already going that direction. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if he was heavy in the Aller and Perrin hires.

knickstape4ever · Post #30 » by **knickstape4ever** » Fri May 22, 2020 10:56 pm

very excited about this hire; we need to take advantage of having cap room at a time when many teams are looking for cap relief

Acquire more picks/move up from #27!

Post #31 » by **GONYK** » Fri May 22, 2020 11:06 pm

Capn'O wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:For the folks that were still waiting on an analytic guy after we hired him & Perrin, does this calm you?

This isn't an analytics guy. He's on the fiscal/cap side. The analytics side being much more granular about basketball tactics/skills. And we don't need "a guy" (we have one). We need a staff.

The fiscal side is in good shape. Perry was already going that direction. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if he was heavy in the Aller and Perrin hires.

Perry was definitely a major factor in the Perrin hire. They have deep roots from Detroit.

aggo · Post #32 » by **aggo** » Fri May 22, 2020 11:12 pm

we need a **** ninja like this and he sounds amazing.,

make him asst GM
and
the guy we just got from Utah GM

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #33 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Fri May 22, 2020 11:29 pm

F N 11 wrote:Mills wanted Fizdale Perry wanted Budenholzer. Look man, Mills the bum is gone. I bet he was all for playing the vets as well. Justifying it by their pay check.

With the new guys in the front office and a respected former agent, I feel great to be honest.

wait is this really true about Perry wanting Bud?

thebuzzardman · Post #34 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat May 23, 2020 12:17 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Mills wanted Fizdale Perry wanted Budenholzer. Look man, Mills the bum is gone. I bet he was all for playing the vets as well. Justifying it by their pay check.

With the new guys in the front office and a respected former agent, I feel great to be honest.

wait is this really true about Perry wanting Bud?

Interesting. I have no idea if that is true. It seems logical Bud wasn't passing up the Bucks for the Knicks, but who knows.

thebuzzardman · Post #35 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat May 23, 2020 12:20 am

For the debate:

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/knicks-head-coach-position-is-mike-budenholzers-top-choice/273481998

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/how-next-moves-knicks-president-leon-rose-makes-will-be-critical----especially-at-head-coach/313463896

https://dailyknicks.com/2020/05/22/ny-knicks-mike-budenholzer-almost-agreement/

I know. "Dailyknicks"...

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #36 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Sat May 23, 2020 12:43 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Mills wanted Fizdale Perry wanted Budenholzer. Look man, Mills the bum is gone. I bet he was all for playing the vets as well. Justifying it by their pay check.

With the new guys in the front office and a respected former agent, I feel great to be honest.

wait is this really true about Perry wanting Bud?

Interesting. I have no idea if that is true. It seems logical Bud wasn't passing up the Bucks for the Knicks, but who knows.

Begley had an article recently about the 2018 coaching search but there really wasn't that much new info in there. Pills got into an "advanced stage of negotiations," whatever that means. Even if that's true, it doesn't change anything so why would I care how close we got to singing a good coach?

Post #37 » by **dakomish23** » Sat May 23, 2020 2:25 am

knickstape4ever wrote:very excited about this hire; we need to take advantage of having cap room at a time when many teams are looking for cap relief

Acquire more picks/move up from #27!

I like where your head is at. I’d also take on some bad money for a high upside prospect if one should become available

Jimmit79 · Post #38 » by **Jimmit79** » Sat May 23, 2020 3:28 am

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Jimmit79 wrote:Rose as assembled supporting cast but his GM the decision maker is Scott Perry this is like pin up a suburu with mrf wheels to go race with real actual mrf lmao.

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he could be surrounded by folks who can't let him fail... or will take his job if he doesn't do right.

i'm hoping leon is keeping perry around because he sees some value in him and will use him in the right way.

So instead of hiring a real gm let's hire multiple different parts with there own opinion why reinvent the wheel.

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GEOLINK · Post #39 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat May 23, 2020 3:44 am

Positive article about a Knick hire?

We really are in a different dimension.

HarthorneWingo · Post #40 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat May 23, 2020 4:55 am

GEOLINK wrote:Positive article about a Knick hire?

We really are in a different dimension.

Zanin's dad ...

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