OT: Derek Chauvin Verdict Is In

Fat Kat · Post #21 » by **Fat Kat** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:11 pm

YES. Thank goodness

Oscirus · Post #22 » by **Oscirus** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:11 pm

so whats the minimum amount of time he can get in prison?

Clyde_Style · Post #23 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:12 pm

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HarthorneWingo · Post #24 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:12 pm

I think I'm going to go out and buy some booze and celebrate tonight while watching the Knicks kick some butt against the Hornets. This is a great and historic day. Let's put some icing on it and enjoy the victory.

3toheadmelo · Post #25 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:12 pm

Thank god

Clyde_Style · Post #26 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:13 pm

Oscirus wrote:so whats the minimum amount of time he can get in prison?

Each count carries a different maximum sentence: 40 years for second-degree unintentional murder, 25 years for third-degree murder, and 10 years for second-degree manslaughter

Not sure about the minimum, but if the judge combines the verdicts it should amount to life in prison

Post #27 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:15 pm

Tactically stupid for him not to take the stand. But that's legal and apologies which are not that important. Can't do what he did period.

Post #28 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:15 pm

justice served! well done jurors!

F N 11 · Post #29 » by **F N 11** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:16 pm

Thank GOD man.

Oscirus · Post #30 » by **Oscirus** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:18 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Tactically stupid for him not to take the stand. But that's legal and apologies which are not that important. Can't do what he did period.

It was pretty much on camera, not much he could say at that point. Better strategy to make himself small as possible and hope the jury buys the act.

JXL · Post #31 » by **JXL** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:19 pm

This is justice, but things definitely need to change.

Until the administration and the DOJ make sweeping changes to reform the police and "pull out the weeds from the rose garden", there will be no true justice.

Let's hope this is the start of a bigger change.

HarthorneWingo · Post #32 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:19 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Tactically stupid for him not to take the stand. But that's legal and apologies which are not that important. Can't do what he did period.

I disagree. I think that his attorney focusing on the reasonableness of Chauvin's restraint of Floyd as opposed to focusing to "proximate cause" during his closing argument was the big mistake. He was never going to get a jury to believe that placing the knee on Floyd's neck for that long a period of time and under those circumstances was "reasonable" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I think that he had a much better shot at a better result if he had focused on all of the other possibilities of causation.

Post #33 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:20 pm

Oscirus wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Tactically stupid for him not to take the stand. But that's legal and apologies which are not that important. Can't do what he did period.

It was pretty much on camera, not much he could say at that point. Better strategy to make himself small as possible and hope the jury buys the act.

Well he can take stand and say I was trying to keep control and went too far, I'm sorry. Take his licks from the prosecution. But again doesn't matter. Just legal chatter.

Post #34 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:21 pm

Bail revoked too so he goes straight to jail.

Post #35 » by **DOT** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:21 pm

Good

But the fact it was even in doubt says a lot.

Clyde_Style · Post #36 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:22 pm

JXL wrote:This is justice, but things definitely need to change.

Until the administration and the DOJ make sweeping changes to reform the police and "pull out the weeds from the rose garden", there will be no true justice.

Let's hope this is the start of a bigger change.

The Biden administration is definitely working on this already. Garland killed a Trump DOJ memo that neutered Consent Decrees used to clean up police departments.

Post #37 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:22 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Tactically stupid for him not to take the stand. But that's legal and apologies which are not that important. Can't do what he did period.

I disagree. I think that his attorney focusing on the reasonableness of Chauvin's restraint of Floyd as opposed to focusing to "proximate cause" during his closing argument was the big mistake. He was never going to get a jury to believe that placing the knee on Floyd's neck for that long a period of time and under those circumstances was "reasonable" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I think that he had a much better shot at a better result if he had focused on all of the other possibilities of causation.

Yeah but jurors are still allowed to be emotional. I'm sure they wanted to hear from him. But most likely nothing he could do and hindsight is 2020.

Oscirus · Post #38 » by **Oscirus** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:23 pm

blue and orange · Post #39 » by **blue and orange** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:23 pm

**** YEAH, great job by the jury.

HarthorneWingo · Post #40 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:23 pm

JXL wrote:This is justice, but things definitely need to change.

Until the administration and the DOJ make sweeping changes to reform the police and "pull out the weeds from the rose garden", there will be no true justice.

Let's hope this is the start of a bigger change.

The Minnesota police testifying against one of their own was huge in moving the needle. I think/hope that we'll now see some real change.

Also, more good news, the officer who shot Walter Scott five times in the back while he ran from the officer, killing Scott, just upheld his 20 year sentence.

https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article250794949.html