2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3

[3toheadmelo]

No bj Boston option???

I’ll go with Zaire Williams then!!!!!

Josh giddey a close second!!!!!

i just took out scottie barnes and put in bj boston. seems likely barnes is out of our range anyways and nobody really wants him besides one person

Stupid not to add Barnes, but that's cool.

When Barnes ends up being a star in the league, you'll wish we would have gone after him. But, time will tell. Both of us have a chance to be dead wrong.

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

[knickstape4ever]

I want Any 2 of:

Giddy
Mann
Ayo

Bouknight wont be available.

idk, he might be

ESPN DX (which is usually pretty good w/ ranking players in relation to where they get picked) has Bouknight at 20 now, and Wasserman has him at 22

regardless, I'd even trade up for Bouknight

[NewKnicks]

i just took out scottie barnes and put in bj boston. seems likely barnes is out of our range anyways and nobody really wants him besides one person

Stupid not to add Barnes, but that's cool.

When Barnes ends up being a star in the league, you'll wish we would have gone after him. But, time will tell. Both of us have a chance to be dead wrong.

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

I know, because 3ToHeadMelo on the RealGM message board is the best talent evaluator in the business. Better than all NBA GM's and scouts.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Get me Giddey

Australia's track record with first rounders is looking a little sketchy


Exum
Maker
Simmons


His jumpshot being a weakness is off putting.

Ben Simmons turned out well and there are other good players from Australia (Bogut, Ingles, Baynes, Mills) so I wouldnt factor that in too much. Ball and Hampton transitioning good from the league too.

Jumpshot is a concern. But I like his passing and other tools enough to gamble that he can improve the jumper. A lot of good prospects come in with shaky jumpers and improve, even on our team with RJ, Randle. Not everyone does but its worth the risk around where we will be picking.

Like his passing/vision/feel as great tools to build from

[3toheadmelo]

Stupid not to add Barnes, but that's cool.

When Barnes ends up being a star in the league, you'll wish we would have gone after him. But, time will tell. Both of us have a chance to be dead wrong.

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

I know, because 3ToHeadMelo on the RealGM message board is the best talent evaluator in the business. Better than all NBA GM's and scouts.

Thanks I appreciate the compliment

[knickstape4ever]

I think the FO should seriously consider using Obi to move up in the draft

nothing against Obi (tho I haven't been impressed), but how will his role change next season? he's not taking away any of Randle's minutes at PF and at C we've got Mitch/Noel (assuming he's re-signed, which he should be); Thibs likes having a rim protector at C and the #'s show that our best lineups have a rim-protecting C. this team is successful in large part because of defense and that starts in the interior, which is why I don't see Obi/Randle at the 4/5 being a thing next season

so where are the extra minutes coming from him? I just don't see how he'd get a more substantial role than the 5-15 minutes he gets now

we could use some guards and wings and if there's a player in the late lotto that the FO believes in, they should make the move because Obi doesn't seem to have much of a role here

[knickstape4ever]

My ideal scenario would be to get Bouknight + 2 of the following

Mann
Ziaire
Moody
Thomas
Butler
Springer
Boston
Christopher
Mathurin
Dosunmu

*would look to trade up

[knickstape4ever]

btw, the following players have signed w/ Klutch:

Jalen Johnson
Moses Moody
BJ Boston
Terrence Clarke
Kai Jones
Scottie Lewis

[NewKnicks]

i just took out scottie barnes and put in bj boston. seems likely barnes is out of our range anyways and nobody really wants him besides one person

Stupid not to add Barnes, but that's cool.

When Barnes ends up being a star in the league, you'll wish we would have gone after him. But, time will tell. Both of us have a chance to be dead wrong.

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

And stop with the weird comments trying to make me look bad. It's ridiculous. I 'brag' about Barnes being a 10 pick?

No, I simply state that is where he is on almost all mocks. That's somehow bragging. I just can't get along with your personality. You act like a child.

[NewKnicks]

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

I know, because 3ToHeadMelo on the RealGM message board is the best talent evaluator in the business. Better than all NBA GM's and scouts.

Thanks I appreciate the compliment

That's what you think you are. Barnes is a complete bust in your eyes, yet all evaluators in the business have him in the lottery. A lot of them even say he has star potential. Yet 3ToHeadMelo says he's a bust, so myself and anyone else who likes Barnes should be ashamed even considering the idea that he has a lot of potential. That's how stupid you sound.

[3toheadmelo]

Stupid not to add Barnes, but that's cool.

When Barnes ends up being a star in the league, you'll wish we would have gone after him. But, time will tell. Both of us have a chance to be dead wrong.

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

And stop with the weird comments trying to make me look bad. It's ridiculous. I 'brag' about Barnes being a 10 pick?

No, I simply state that is where he is on almost all mocks. That's somehow bragging. I just can't get along with your personality. You act like a child.

You brag about him being a top 10 pick acting like he's a guaranteed star because he's mocked higher than others. yet you ignore how much players in the top 10 busted. stop it.

you say im acting like a child yet you have beef with posters in pretty much every thread in you're in. at least a mod figured you out and said you stanned hard for terrence williams before you got banned previouly. so now we know how awful your takes were. carry on.

[NewKnicks]

I mean you brag about Barnes being a top 10 pick so he’s not going to be in our range. Thats why I took him out. When Barnes isn’t all that in the nba you’ll end up eating crow

And stop with the weird comments trying to make me look bad. It's ridiculous. I 'brag' about Barnes being a 10 pick?

No, I simply state that is where he is on almost all mocks. That's somehow bragging. I just can't get along with your personality. You act like a child.

You brag about him being a top 10 pick acting like he's a guaranteed star because he's mocked higher than others. yet you ignore how much players in the top 10 busted. stop it.

you say im acting like a child yet you have beef with posters in pretty much every thread in you're in. at least a mod figured you out and said you stanned hard for terrence williams before you got banned previouly. so now we know how awful your takes were. carry on.

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

[3toheadmelo]

I know, because 3ToHeadMelo on the RealGM message board is the best talent evaluator in the business. Better than all NBA GM's and scouts.

Thanks I appreciate the compliment

That's what you think you are. Barnes is a complete bust in your eyes, yet all evaluators in the business have him in the lottery. A lot of them even say he has star potential. Yet 3ToHeadMelo says he's a bust, so myself and anyone else who likes Barnes should be ashamed even considering the idea that he has a lot of potential. That's how stupid you sound.

here you go again acting like what you think is correct. you really need help. i see you acting crazy about tracy mcgrady in that other thread and that randle thread where he proved you completely wrong. you're pretty stubborn.

look how mad you are because i don't like your favorite player. no wonder you aren't really liked around here and got banned before a couple times. sad.
and again look how you twisted my post again. i didn't put barnes on the poll because he's not in our range and you respond with "he's going to be a star and you're going to look stupid" "3toheadmelo thinks hes a genius". all because i didn't put a player in a poll because he's not in our range.

who cares if some mocks have him as a top 10 pick. do you know how much players have busted in the top 10? kevin knox, frank ntilikina ring a bell? he's not guaranteed to be good which you completely ignore. so you bragging about him being a lottery pick is pretty meaningless to me and everyone else here. carry on terrence williams stan.

[3toheadmelo]

And stop with the weird comments trying to make me look bad. It's ridiculous. I 'brag' about Barnes being a 10 pick?

No, I simply state that is where he is on almost all mocks. That's somehow bragging. I just can't get along with your personality. You act like a child.

You brag about him being a top 10 pick acting like he's a guaranteed star because he's mocked higher than others. yet you ignore how much players in the top 10 busted. stop it.

you say im acting like a child yet you have beef with posters in pretty much every thread in you're in. at least a mod figured you out and said you stanned hard for terrence williams before you got banned previouly. so now we know how awful your takes were. carry on.

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

[N Y K]

Thanks for the list of players to catch up on, cause I haven't watch shiiiiiiiii

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Get me Giddey

Australia's track record with first rounders is looking a little sketchy


Exum
Maker
Simmons


His jumpshot being a weakness is off putting.

Ben Simmons turned out well and there are other good players from Australia (Bogut, Ingles, Baynes, Mills) so I wouldnt factor that in too much. Ball and Hampton transitioning good from the league too.

Jumpshot is a concern. But I like his passing and other tools enough to gamble that he can improve the jumper. A lot of good prospects come in with shaky jumpers and improve, even on our team with RJ, Randle. Not everyone does but its worth the risk around where we will be picking.

Like his passing/vision/feel as great tools to build from

I think Simmons is a massive disappointment on offense, he is good, but you can definitely make a case for Brown, Ingram and even Siakam being better from that draft. Definitely wouldn't call LaMelo/Hamtpon Australian prospects either, I mean the guys born and raised there that developed in their system.

If we're going to go with guys that have poor shots, it might be better to look at someone like Jalen Johnson who has similar strengths but is a much better athlete with the potential to be a multi-positional defender.

[cgf]

Australia's track record with first rounders is looking a little sketchy


Exum
Maker
Simmons


His jumpshot being a weakness is off putting.

Ben Simmons turned out well and there are other good players from Australia (Bogut, Ingles, Baynes, Mills) so I wouldnt factor that in too much. Ball and Hampton transitioning good from the league too.

Jumpshot is a concern. But I like his passing and other tools enough to gamble that he can improve the jumper. A lot of good prospects come in with shaky jumpers and improve, even on our team with RJ, Randle. Not everyone does but its worth the risk around where we will be picking.

Like his passing/vision/feel as great tools to build from

I think Simmons is a massive disappointment on offense, he is good, but you can definitely make a case for Brown, Ingram and even Siakam being better from that draft. Definitely wouldn't call LaMelo/Hamtpon Australian prospects either, I mean the guys born and raised there that developed in their system.

If we're going to go with guys that have poor shots, it might be better to look at someone like Jalen Johnson who has similar strengths but is a much better athlete with the potential to be a multi-positional defender.

If Johnson is still available at our pick, it'll be because of his personality...and after how things went in Minnesota, I'm dubious of pairing Thibs with kids that might not be ready to buy in. Huge talent, but he's going to need to interview well not to drop...and if he does interview well we won't have a chance at him.

[NewKnicks]

You brag about him being a top 10 pick acting like he's a guaranteed star because he's mocked higher than others. yet you ignore how much players in the top 10 busted. stop it.

you say im acting like a child yet you have beef with posters in pretty much every thread in you're in. at least a mod figured you out and said you stanned hard for terrence williams before you got banned previouly. so now we know how awful your takes were. carry on.

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft him since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

You really shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easy for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 (that's all I saw in the 10 minutes I looked) more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

Another thing.. we can end it here, but if you keep coming at me, I'll keep posting more of your brilliant draft evaluations. It's up to you, really. I'll let you decide how much you prefer to be exposed for your miserable draft prediction failures.

[NewKnicks]

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft them since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

Shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easier for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now. As if you know something, when you really don't know much.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

If you keep coming at me, I'll keep posting more of your brilliant draft evaluations. It's up to you, really. I'll let you decide how much you prefer to be exposed for your miserable draft prediction failures.

[3toheadmelo]

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft them since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

Shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easier for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now. As if you know something, when you really don't know much.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

Everyone knows that i hopped off the knox bandwagon after watching him play in college. i liked him in high school. but thanks for posting something irrelevant and making yourself look dumb as usual. you can keep posting my old takes cause you keep showing to everyone you're a previously banned poster. and i never claimed to be an expert anyways which you claim i am. so i guess you're one of my biggest fans since you're obsessed with my posts from over 3 years ago. also, thanks to one of the site mods, we know that you stanned a complete garbage player terrence williams from one of your previously banned accounts. that's pretty embarassing.