2023 draft thread

Post #21 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:25 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Its never too early to hype up players we won't get in the draft. At least its something different to talk about.

It’s depressing for me.. cause even if we miss the playoffs we won’t be in position to get any of em

I hear you, and then we may even trade the pick anyway. Every thread is kind of depressing and pointless though.

8516knicks · Post #22 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:42 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Its never too early to hype up players we won't get in the draft. At least its something different to talk about.

It’s depressing for me.. cause even if we miss the playoffs we won’t be in position to get any of em

"...even if we miss the playoffs we won’t be in position to get any of em." = it's actually pretty damn amazing how the Knicks manage to thread this needle every year like clockwork!

Not bad enough to be truly horrible
Not good enough to be decently good.
Not even moderately good enough to be mediocre.
we're a D+/C- team. :nod:

Post #23 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:32 pm

cgmw wrote:Can we talk about which established veterans Leon will attempt to trade all of these picks to acquire as if his very employment depended on it?

You mean what overpaid veterans already on the roster that Leon will use those picks to move so they can chase the next established veteran?

Spree2Houston · Post #24 » by **Spree2Houston** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:34 pm

If there ever was a year to tank, next year would be the year

Meat · Post #25 » by **Meat** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:00 pm

who's gonna disappoint the most in the 8-12 range?

Spree2Houston · Post #26 » by **Spree2Houston** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:02 pm

NVM we'll probably trade this pick to dump Fournier's contract

Meat · Post #27 » by **Meat** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:02 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:If there ever was a year to tank, next year would be the year

knicks making the playoffs guaranteed,
FFD 5 years, knicks trading multiple picks to open up space to sign V.W who signs with the mavs or griz

Gravy · Post #28 » by **Gravy** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:11 pm

According to Knicks fans every team got better than us because they all drafted a superstar this draft and we did not. So we are guaranteed a top five pick! :rockon:

Post #29 » by **DOT** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:14 pm

Jordan Hawkins is a guy a lot of people, myself included, expect a breakout from this year

He'll have his chances, that's what I like about Hurley is, while it is about wins first, he will play underclassmen over upperclassmen if he thinks they'll win more games

He could have a James Bouknight type of breakout this season, though Bouknight had a better freshman year.

spree2kawhi · Post #30 » by **spree2kawhi** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:19 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:If there ever was a year to tank, next year would be the year

The Spurs once successfully identified 1999 as that year. Building through the draft is so 90s.

Just as Brooklyn has shown, you sign top free agents to a big city and the rest of the league will basically fold.

spree2kawhi · Post #31 » by **spree2kawhi** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:20 pm

Gravy wrote:According to Knicks fans every team got better than us because they all drafted a superstar this draft and we did not. So we are guaranteed a top five pick!

You know you’re wrong.

Gravy · Post #32 » by **Gravy** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:31 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Gravy wrote:According to Knicks fans every team got better than us because they all drafted a superstar this draft and we did not. So we are guaranteed a top five pick!

You know you’re wrong.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #33 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:45 pm

Can't wait to trade the number 8 pick in the draft to clear out caproom for Jerami Grant.

The Lamma · Post #34 » by **The Lamma** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:13 pm

Fat Kat wrote:A total waste of time, but have fun.

Who wants to start the 2024 draft thread?

Meat · Post #35 » by **Meat** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:39 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Can't wait to trade the number 8 pick in the draft to clear out caproom for Jerami Grant.

nah, the kicks are gonna end up trading 4 frdp for Dieng obviously

cgmw · Post #36 » by **cgmw** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:47 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:
cgmw wrote:Can we talk about which established veterans Leon will attempt to trade all of these picks to acquire as if his very employment depended on it?

I 100% get the criticism for Leon, but he traded a 2022 #11 pick for 3 future firsts, then he did a swap of 1sts and gave up 4 2nds to shed salary. The Knicks have 11 firsts and 11 2nds over the next 7 years. They're not dumping picks.

Now . . . future actions may change that, but for all Leon's flaws and unwillingness to do a full rebuild, has shown some respect for not giving away picks.

I understand and empathize with fan bias toward wanting to believe the Knicks have a shot at these up-and-coming prospects, but let’s look at the objective track-record here:

• 2022: Leon keeps Burks post-deadline, late-season win streak, brags about it in letter to ticket holders, apologizes for missing playoffs, gets 11 pick, trades out of draft.

• 2021: Extends 5 veterans including Randle, brings in Fournier/Kemba as starters, trades back in first round.

• 2020: Hires coach known for not playing rookies. Takes 23 year old “backup QB” (over obvious developmental higher ceiling guard Haliburton), stocks roster with vets to play ahead of Obi + ahead of literally every young player except RJ.

Objectively, it seems highly unlikely that Leon Rose and Tom Thibs have any intention of drafting impact rookies in 2023. The track record indicates Leon will do everything in his power to leverage those picks for the veteran help that Thibs craves and Dolan demands to make the playoffs as promised in his letter to ticket holders.

This thread, like hundreds if not thousands of hours of Knick YouTube content analyzing prospects, is entertaining but a total waste of time. The purpose of threads like these is simply to make some Knick fans feel better emotionally by pretending like one of these prospects might save us.

Guano · Post #37 » by **Guano** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:58 pm

I for one love judging other people harshly to make myself feel better about myself so I'm a fan of this thread.

Love that some of you just got burnt by the draft and are jumping right back into. Keep it up.

RHODEY · Post #38 » by **RHODEY** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:05 pm

Keeping an eye on that Dallas Pick. We get Brunson and that weakens them a bit. Nuggets and Clippers at full Strength should be Better. . ..That 2023 pick is top ten protected but still in a deep draft that could be something of worth .

KnicksGadfly · Post #39 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:26 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Gravy wrote:According to Knicks fans every team got better than us because they all drafted a superstar this draft and we did not. So we are guaranteed a top five pick!

You know you’re wrong.

He's either trolling by using a straw man

Or

He's fooling himself by using a straw man

haterade · Post #40 » by **haterade** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:59 pm

A player I really like in this draft is Amari Bailey. Seen him as a sophomore on a team with Bronny, BJ Boston, Zaire Williams go against Suggs and Chet. Dude was the best player on the floor for the Sierra Canyon side. He's slotted near the end of the lottery in most mocks but this kid is special and he's going to jump up in the mocks as the season goes along.