What does an RJ extension look like?

[nedleeds]

You guys think we are trading away the guy we drafted at number 3 after tanking? When he's getting better and better every year?

Do you even watch R_?

This is the type of post you make when you don't watch games.

Or the kind you make when you aren't drunk in your chair thinking RJ is making shots, when he's just getting blocked by Grant Williams over and over.



So walk us through how RJ got "better" last year? He was a far worse shooter, and he was even worse against the league average (which accounts for better shooting in empty gyms for fake stars like Foolius).

Is it because he "goT twenTy a gAmE!!"?

[whocares1]

Do you even watch R_?

This is the type of post you make when you don't watch games.

Or the kind you make when you aren't drunk in your chair thinking RJ is making shots, when he's just getting blocked by Grant Williams over and over.



So walk us through how RJ got "better" last year? He was a far worse shooter, and he was even worse against the league average (which accounts for better shooting in empty gyms for fake stars like Foolius).

Is it because he "goT twenTy a gAmE!!"?

He played well in roles he had never been in before like being the handler in the screen and roll and attacking his man on mismatches which we never saw too much before.

He played well for long stretches and had a couple of dominant performances, the one against the Heat comes to mind.

He absolutely took a dive in efficiency at the end of the season but not everything can be measured statistically. He grew as a basketball player. His issue is his inconsistency.

[HopelessKnick]

Does someone know where you can access RJ's shooting percentages of the last two seasons when he shared the court with Derrick Rose?

I have the suspicion that with two solid PGs in Rose and Brunson, RJ is bound to get his % back in order.

[Zenzibar]

[robillionaire]

Does someone know where you can access RJ's shooting percentages of the last two seasons when he shared the court with Derrick Rose?

I have the suspicion that with two solid PGs in Rose and Brunson, RJ is bound to get his % back in order.

RJ’s shooting percentage when he stands in the corner and waits for the ball (like he did when the team was winning) are really good. His percentage when he has the ball in his hands and tries to create a shot (when the team was losing) is pretty bad. I’m not looking up the numbers on that though

[Knicks Byke]

he's gonna feel some way if he gets less than Zion?

[Kampuchea]

This is the type of post you make when you don't watch games.

Or the kind you make when you aren't drunk in your chair thinking RJ is making shots, when he's just getting blocked by Grant Williams over and over.



So walk us through how RJ got "better" last year? He was a far worse shooter, and he was even worse against the league average (which accounts for better shooting in empty gyms for fake stars like Foolius).

Is it because he "goT twenTy a gAmE!!"?

He played well in roles he had never been in before like being the handler in the screen and roll and attacking his man on mismatches which we never saw too much before.

He played well for long stretches and had a couple of dominant performances, the one against the Heat comes to mind.

He absolutely took a dive in efficiency at the end of the season but not everything can be measured statistically. He grew as a basketball player. His issue is his inconsistency.

I think I will go with the ones that can actually statistically support their comments. Just repeating "He played well" isn't fooling anybody, rather it is a desperate narrative being pushed by some fans.

[Chanel Bomber]

Does someone know where you can access RJ's shooting percentages of the last two seasons when he shared the court with Derrick Rose?

I have the suspicion that with two solid PGs in Rose and Brunson, RJ is bound to get his % back in order.

He was statistically less efficient with Rose on the floor.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Take foul rules getting changed, RJ is going to benefit from it, this thread is gonna age poorly.

[The Vo Show]

I think it would be like 5/125. something like that.
(would look like a steal in 2 years)

I agree with this, although I would prefer 5 years/$120 starting at $21MM per year, but a round $125MM to bring the average to $25MM per even vs $24.4MM doesn't move the needle.

We already know RJ, as long as he stays healthy, has the floor as a slightly above average, 2-way starter on the wing, which has a market value of about $20MM per year. If he signs this deal and remains at his current level, he's about 10-15% overpaid, but at a position that the league places a huge premium on. If he reaches his full potential and gets to Andrew Wiggins/Jaylen Brown level, which I think is realistic, his deal is about 25% below the maximum, which represents a great bargain. The highest probably is he ends up somewhere in between and the contract is a fair contract.

Can't give him 5 years unless its a max according to that article. I'm pretty sure we would all be happy if he gets 5/125 but its not possible. I'm not sure what his extension will look like. If I were the Knicks, I'm punting this down the road to next year. Tell him we want to give him the full max and would be more comfortable with one more year. Otherwise, heres a 4/110m extension if you want.

[whocares1]

Or the kind you make when you aren't drunk in your chair thinking RJ is making shots, when he's just getting blocked by Grant Williams over and over.



So walk us through how RJ got "better" last year? He was a far worse shooter, and he was even worse against the league average (which accounts for better shooting in empty gyms for fake stars like Foolius).

Is it because he "goT twenTy a gAmE!!"?

He played well in roles he had never been in before like being the handler in the screen and roll and attacking his man on mismatches which we never saw too much before.

He played well for long stretches and had a couple of dominant performances, the one against the Heat comes to mind.

He absolutely took a dive in efficiency at the end of the season but not everything can be measured statistically. He grew as a basketball player. His issue is his inconsistency.

I think I will go with the ones that can actually statistically support their comments. Just repeating "He played well" isn't fooling anybody, rather it is a desperate narrative being pushed by some fans.

So you’re willing to tell me he never played well at for any stretch of games all season? Pretty funny to say that actually.

[HopelessKnick]

Does someone know where you can access RJ's shooting percentages of the last two seasons when he shared the court with Derrick Rose?

I have the suspicion that with two solid PGs in Rose and Brunson, RJ is bound to get his % back in order.

He was statistically less efficient with Rose on the floor.

Damn

[Kampuchea]

He played well in roles he had never been in before like being the handler in the screen and roll and attacking his man on mismatches which we never saw too much before.

He played well for long stretches and had a couple of dominant performances, the one against the Heat comes to mind.

He absolutely took a dive in efficiency at the end of the season but not everything can be measured statistically. He grew as a basketball player. His issue is his inconsistency.

I think I will go with the ones that can actually statistically support their comments. Just repeating "He played well" isn't fooling anybody, rather it is a desperate narrative being pushed by some fans.

So you’re willing to tell me he never played well at for any stretch of games all season? Pretty funny to say that actually.

You said he played well for long stretches of the season. Now it is changed to he played well for any stretch of games at all. Next you will pretend I said he never had a good game. Moving goalposts.

I am not saying that he will never improve and I like his work ethic and age, I am just saying I would not give him a very big contract based on that alone. I would prefer to see if he improved this season, or if we do extend him now to get a nice discount below max for the risk we are taking.

[Capn'O]

$150million - $200million.

[HarthorneWingo]

$150million - $200million.

5 years into $150M = $30/year. I don’t think RJ is a $30M/year player. Do you?

[Spree2Houston]

4yrs/100 million is what the deal will end up being

[nedleeds]

Does someone know where you can access RJ's shooting percentages of the last two seasons when he shared the court with Derrick Rose?

I have the suspicion that with two solid PGs in Rose and Brunson, RJ is bound to get his % back in order.

RJ’s shooting percentage when he stands in the corner and waits for the ball (like he did when the team was winning) are really good. His percentage when he has the ball in his hands and tries to create a shot (when the team was losing) is pretty bad. I’m not looking up the numbers on that though

His numbers are pasted above by area of the court. During the fake season to your point he was good standing in the corner and shooting 3's in empty gyms.

His at the rim numbers have been absolutely atrocious all 3 years and declined significantly this past year on his quest to average TWENTY.

[nedleeds]

I think I will go with the ones that can actually statistically support their comments. Just repeating "He played well" isn't fooling anybody, rather it is a desperate narrative being pushed by some fans.

So you’re willing to tell me he never played well at for any stretch of games all season? Pretty funny to say that actually.

You said he played well for long stretches of the season. Now it is changed to he played well for any stretch of games at all. Next you will pretend I said he never had a good game. Moving goalposts.

I am not saying that he will never improve and I like his work ethic and age, I am just saying I would not give him a very big contract based on that alone. I would prefer to see if he improved this season, or if we do extend him now to get a nice discount below max for the risk we are taking.

hE maKeS pLAys!

[robillionaire]

Take foul rules getting changed, RJ is going to benefit from it, this thread is gonna age poorly.

I’m wondering your opinion on how you foresee this rule change impacting these players more than others, is it just because they run the floor more or something else

[Nazrmohamed]

Do you even watch R_?

This is the type of post you make when you don't watch games.

Or the kind you make when you aren't drunk in your chair thinking RJ is making shots, when he's just getting blocked by Grant Williams over and over.



So walk us through how RJ got "better" last year? He was a far worse shooter, and he was even worse against the league average (which accounts for better shooting in empty gyms for fake stars like Foolius).

Is it because he "goT twenTy a gAmE!!"?

Oh no nedleeds you're wrong. It's all Mitchs fault. RJ fails to convert over literally one defender after having received a screen before all of his drives because of Mitch. RJ misses his 3 pt shots because of Mitch. You know, cuz using the same argument Mitch mustve drawn his defender all the way out to the 3pt line st the same time as he kept his defender in the lane due to his own lack of a 3 pointer. If you follow multidimensional theory both can take place at the same time. And I guess the reason RJ cannot truly be the alpha must be because Mitch must be taking all of his shot attempts as well.

None of this could possibly be RJs fault. Not our number 3 pick.