Hes_On_Fire wrote:
And yet somehow this Supreme Court ruling won’t be a problem if a Democrat wins office, right? Just a Republican.
This is why I don’t get involved in politics. People are so caught up in their team and have this narrow ass minded point of view that’s outside of reality.
Yeah, President Alzheimer’s is going to save democracy from big bad orange guy! There is absolutely no chance we’ll see corruption again after November if Biden wins. No politician has been corrupt and abused power before or after this ruling!
Don’t need to respond back because I don’t care to argue about this my team is better yours political crap and I won’t. I have nothing else to add to this.
Happy Independence Day! God Bless America!
The supreme court ruling is a problem if a crook gets into office, because it gives the crook too big an invitation to break the law.
I don't care what side of the political fence you're on, Trump is a crook. This is well established. If a Democrat crook (and they do exist) - Menendez in NJ, Rod Blagojevich, an evil clone of Bill Clinton. How would you feel then?
Biden, dislike him as much as you want, but there's no evidence that he's a crook, but this supreme court ruling will go on past Biden. Imagine if a black lives matter president gets in office - and they had cart blanch to do all kinds of questionable things, and prosecuting them for abuse of power would be nearly impossible. How would you feel then? That's the door the supreme court opened.
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Now, I've not read up on this a whole lot. I've read up on it a little bit, and listened to some people who are smarter than me, and this isn't full blown dictatorship, but it is half way there.
Take what happened with the voting machine claims. Trump (or any president) can claim it's their presidential duty to ensure safe and fair elections, but what does that mean? Does it give the president the power to delay the results of an election until their satisfied? Where does presidential duty end? This is a scary ruling, and not just Trump. ANY ELECTED PRESIDENT can do this.
Now, if they have an attorney - lets call this attorney Rudy, and lets say that Rudy makes some accusations that put people's lives in danger. Attorney Rudy doesn't have presidential immunity. This person could face civil and criminal prosecution. They could still lose their license to practice law, and a pardon will only cover some of that.
Presumably, no president ever will be stupid enough to call a state attorney general and ask them to "find 11,000 votes", but presidents can call state attorney generals, ask for illegal ****, say it's "I just want to ensure free and fair elections" and say it's covered by presidential immunity. Imagine if the state attorney general is corrupt.
With this ruling, a president could literally send out a flyer to every millionaire in the country that says "Pardons for sale - bidding starts at 2 million", and Pardons, a presidential power, would be protected from any kind of prosecution. Rod Blagojevich would LOVE that.
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Now, lets look at why the 6 conservative justices made this ruling? One reason that's been floated out there, is that they wanted to protect Trump from prosecution prior to the election, so if he wins in 2024, he's safe. They love Trump that much.
Now, any charge against Trump can be challenged on the basis of "Presidential duties, so he's immune" - I don't know how that would apply to Hush money payments before he was elected. Or his crooked real estate finances, which were done before he was president. I suspect it shouldn't, but Trump's going to try to challenge those rulings. The supreme court gave Trump a get out of jail free pass, at least, for a while, until this can be sorted out.
To me, that's even scarier. That this might not have been a rule of law, but a rule based entirely on favoritism. Two of the supreme court justices have direct family ties to January 6th. One has taken a HUGE amount of bribes and payments. Their ruling on abortion was based on an arcane, 300 year old law, and very strange, and this one shows blatant favoritism. The fact that they waited until the last possible minute to reach this ruling is evidence of that.
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There are valid reasons to be concerned. These are scary times. And if you don't think that's the case, just remember, this immunity will exist long after Trump is gone. This could be a real problem. American politics is built on checks and balances, and we can see now, the supreme court has no checks and balances, outside of impeachment, which only happened once. It's very rare, and is impossible to succeed in our current 2 party system and now the president has increased power to commit crimes. This isn't good.
God invented war so Americans would learn geography.
