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Re: THE CURRENT PRODUCT. modern Knicks 

Post#21 » by cgf » Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:58 pm

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The wolves will be fine but, the Knicks are doomed? Jesus. We are 10-7 and improving. They are 8-9 and trying to figure it out. I do not understand the doom and gloom around here at all.


My tongue was firmly in my cheek, thus the … at the end.

If buddy had bothered to quote any of my other posts on the GB they may have noticed that they are all about how when healthy we should be a nightmare matchup for Cleveland or how we should be as well equipped to **** with Boston as anyone once we gel / get healthy.

…or how much a Garland - Franz Wagner trade would suck for everybody else in the eastern conference; I’ve pissed off a lot of Cavs & Magic fans with that one recently lol…


…though I would like an upgrade to Sims to hedge against Mitch getting hurt in the playoffs.


Well then, carry on with your work. Good job!


May need to go less subtle if I'm catching fellow knicks fans :lol: ...I figured anyone who's seen me post would know that if I'm not writing a goddamn essay to explain myself, I'm probably just joking around. Especially when I end a post with an ellipsis.

Though I do think the wolves will get better as they gel...and may still still march into a home playoff series given how mid the West is behind OKC...I was trying to riff on the doom & gloom about us after Utah handed us our asses.
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Post#22 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:06 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:What I also like is that there are no narcissists or flat-out morons aboard this ship. Look at the other rosters and you’ve got a Miles Bridges here, a LeBron there, Kevin Porter in LA, I couldn’t root for Zion or Embiid or Booker or Green or Brooks or Morant or Ball or … for different reasons…


This seems like a good place to riff on Mikal and to some degree the Mikal trade.

Mikal's shot may indeed be broken. I think PART of the problem is Mikal readjusting to having the ball in his hands less, which is affecting everything from shot rhythm to aggressiveness.

He's flipping between being the 4th and 3rd option every night and the 5th option isn't some limited dunking center. It's Hart, who has the ball in his hands a decent amount

Also, Mikal is decent off the ball but not exactly elite for that role. I felt this way in the Olympic qualifiers and still do. Still, his ability to be effective in the midrange is important and I think the 3 will come around

Mikal figuring out his role/his shot are the final unlock of the offense. Probably at midseason.

In the meantime, like Brunson, Hart and OG, he's willing to play any role and sacrifice scoring without complaints.

The Knicks laid out a number of assets for this version of the team but you see the attributes wanted in players targeted:

BBall IQ
Team oriented
Good at cutting and passing
Can shoot
All around ability
Low ego

In a vacuum, 5 picks for Mikal is a lot, but they traded no useful players for him, while the other half of the wing tandem was traded for two useful players and no first round picks.

People wouldn't mind RJ and two picks for OG and Precious and IQ and three picks for Mikal, would they?

And that still left Randle and, unfortunately Divo, available for KAT, a somewhat better player than Randle but a MUCH better fit to space the offense and play 5 out.

Mikal should come around. The fretting over the picks a little silly in the larger asset management scheme
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Post#23 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:21 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:What I also like is that there are no narcissists or flat-out morons aboard this ship. Look at the other rosters and you’ve got a Miles Bridges here, a LeBron there, Kevin Porter in LA, I couldn’t root for Zion or Embiid or Booker or Green or Brooks or Morant or Ball or … for different reasons…


This seems like a good place to riff on Mikal and to some degree the Mikal trade.

Mikal's shot may indeed be broken. I think PART of the problem is Mikal readjusting to having the ball in his hands less, which is affecting everything from shot rhythm to aggressiveness.

He's flipping between being the 4th and 3rd option every night and the 5th option isn't some limited dunking center. It's Hart, who has the ball in his hands a decent amount

Also, Mikal is decent off the ball but not exactly elite for that role. I felt this way in the Olympic qualifiers and still do. Still, his ability to be effective in the midrange is important and I think the 3 will come around

Mikal figuring out his role/his shot are the final unlock of the offense. Probably at midseason.

In the meantime, like Brunson, Hart and OG, he's willing to play any role and sacrifice scoring without complaints.

The Knicks laid out a number of assets for this version of the team but you see the attributes wanted in players targeted:

BBall IQ
Team oriented
Good at cutting and passing
Can shoot
All around ability
Low ego

In a vacuum, 5 picks for Mikal is a lot, but they traded no useful players for him, while the other half of the wing tandem was traded for two useful players and no first round picks.

People wouldn't mind RJ and two picks for OG and Precious and IQ and three picks for Mikal, would they?

And that still left Randle and, unfortunately Divo, available for KAT, a somewhat better player than Randle but a MUCH better fit to space the offense and play 5 out.

Mikal should come around. The fretting over the picks a little silly in the larger asset management scheme


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Post#24 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:27 pm

Knicks prioritized hardworking, team oriented players with a definitive system in mind, coached by a defensive oriented coach into accountability. With a front office that saved and gathered picks and used its assets mostly wisely

Waited my entire internet Knicks fandom for this time. Over 25 years across 3 forums.
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Post#25 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:09 pm

"Somewhat" is doing a lot of work in that KAT/ Randle comp, buzz. :lol:
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Post#26 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:21 pm

Mikal’s jumpshot will come around. But I’m more worried about his defense. He needs to watch his Phoenix tape again and see where he can re adjust.

Whether he’s coming off the bench or starting, Mitchell Robinson will make our offense even better. When you add the best offensive rebounding big in the NBA to pair with our explosive offense? Unstoppable. Think of the 2nd and 3rd chances that Brunson , KAT, and Anunoby will get. I won’t even mention the defensive impact he will have on the team.

Once we’re fully healthy, we’re going to be a problem in the playoffs.
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Post#27 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:34 pm

I wanted KAT last year; I didn't think they'd have the stones to do it though. I thought the contract would give them pause, but the Captain being the Captain and taking a lesser deal is why it's possible. We have a top 10 player on a value deal, which is why they were able to take the risk with KAT, and KAT is playing above and beyond his contract now and his impact is that of a top 10 player as well.

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Post#28 » by Guano » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:41 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:What I also like is that there are no narcissists or flat-out morons aboard this ship. Look at the other rosters and you’ve got a Miles Bridges here, a LeBron there, Kevin Porter in LA, I couldn’t root for Zion or Embiid or Booker or Green or Brooks or Morant or Ball or … for different reasons…


This seems like a good place to riff on Mikal and to some degree the Mikal trade.

Mikal's shot may indeed be broken. I think PART of the problem is Mikal readjusting to having the ball in his hands less, which is affecting everything from shot rhythm to aggressiveness.

He's flipping between being the 4th and 3rd option every night and the 5th option isn't some limited dunking center. It's Hart, who has the ball in his hands a decent amount

Also, Mikal is decent off the ball but not exactly elite for that role. I felt this way in the Olympic qualifiers and still do. Still, his ability to be effective in the midrange is important and I think the 3 will come around

Mikal figuring out his role/his shot are the final unlock of the offense. Probably at midseason.

In the meantime, like Brunson, Hart and OG, he's willing to play any role and sacrifice scoring without complaints.

The Knicks laid out a number of assets for this version of the team but you see the attributes wanted in players targeted:

BBall IQ
Team oriented
Good at cutting and passing
Can shoot
All around ability
Low ego

In a vacuum, 5 picks for Mikal is a lot, but they traded no useful players for him, while the other half of the wing tandem was traded for two useful players and no first round picks.

People wouldn't mind RJ and two picks for OG and Precious and IQ and three picks for Mikal, would they?

And that still left Randle and, unfortunately Divo, available for KAT, a somewhat better player than Randle but a MUCH better fit to space the offense and play 5 out.

Mikal should come around. The fretting over the picks a little silly in the larger asset management scheme


Who are you and what have you done with buzz?!!? Hide yourself man! People are gonna think you're a fan!


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Post#29 » by Gravy » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:47 pm

Knicks are either blowing teams out offensively or getting destroyed on defense by good and bad teams. This is contributing to fans wildly swinging from one emotional extreme to the other after every win or loss.
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Post#30 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:54 pm

Guano wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
This seems like a good place to riff on Mikal and to some degree the Mikal trade.

Mikal's shot may indeed be broken. I think PART of the problem is Mikal readjusting to having the ball in his hands less, which is affecting everything from shot rhythm to aggressiveness.

He's flipping between being the 4th and 3rd option every night and the 5th option isn't some limited dunking center. It's Hart, who has the ball in his hands a decent amount

Also, Mikal is decent off the ball but not exactly elite for that role. I felt this way in the Olympic qualifiers and still do. Still, his ability to be effective in the midrange is important and I think the 3 will come around

Mikal figuring out his role/his shot are the final unlock of the offense. Probably at midseason.

In the meantime, like Brunson, Hart and OG, he's willing to play any role and sacrifice scoring without complaints.

The Knicks laid out a number of assets for this version of the team but you see the attributes wanted in players targeted:

BBall IQ
Team oriented
Good at cutting and passing
Can shoot
All around ability
Low ego

In a vacuum, 5 picks for Mikal is a lot, but they traded no useful players for him, while the other half of the wing tandem was traded for two useful players and no first round picks.

People wouldn't mind RJ and two picks for OG and Precious and IQ and three picks for Mikal, would they?

And that still left Randle and, unfortunately Divo, available for KAT, a somewhat better player than Randle but a MUCH better fit to space the offense and play 5 out.

Mikal should come around. The fretting over the picks a little silly in the larger asset management scheme


Who are you and what have you done with buzz?!!? Hide yourself man! People are gonna think you're a fan!


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Every once in awhile buzz demands the ball to show us that he still has a bag.



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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

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Post#31 » by Guano » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:03 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Who are you and what have you done with buzz?!!? Hide yourself man! People are gonna think you're a fan!


:lol:
Every once in awhile buzz demands the ball to show us that he still has a bag.



Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot


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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

I am negrodamus


:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!
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Post#32 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:11 pm

Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
:lol:
Every once in awhile buzz demands the ball to show us that he still has a bag.



Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot


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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

I am negrodamus


:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!





F0urnier was a basketball terrorist, the world is a better place without him on the Knicks.


Sidenote, OG wasn't traded until 6 months after I said that. I didn't even notice I had that in there, it's like a bonus track on an album.
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Post#33 » by sol537 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:20 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Mikal’s jumpshot will come around. But I’m more worried about his defense. He needs to watch his Phoenix tape again and see where he can re adjust.

Whether he’s coming off the bench or starting, Mitchell Robinson will make our offense even better. When you add the best offensive rebounding big in the NBA to pair with our explosive offense? Unstoppable. Think of the 2nd and 3rd chances that Brunson , KAT, and Anunoby will get. I won’t even mention the defensive impact he will have on the team.

Once we’re fully healthy, we’re going to be a problem in the playoffs.


Mitch and Precious are both plus rebounders and are near the top quarter of the league offensive rebounds per minute like KAT and Hart are. We might pummel teams with rebounding and offensive efficiency even if our overall defense is somewhat suspect at times... might be enough to get to ECF and beyond.
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Post#34 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:24 pm

Damn. No dope calling OG and KAT in one post.

Who are the Knicks going for with Mitch's contract?
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Post#35 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:24 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot


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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

I am negrodamus


:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!





F0urnier was a basketball terrorist, the world is a better place without him on the Knicks.


Sidenote, OG wasn't traded until 6 months after I said that. I didn't even notice I had that in there, it's like a bonus track on an album.


You're a god damn genius!
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Post#36 » by Guano » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:24 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot


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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

I am negrodamus


:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!





F0urnier was a basketball terrorist, the world is a better place without him on the Knicks.


Sidenote, OG wasn't traded until 6 months after I said that. I didn't even notice I had that in there, it's like a bonus track on an album.


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Post#37 » by Guano » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:26 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!





F0urnier was a basketball terrorist, the world is a better place without him on the Knicks.


Sidenote, OG wasn't traded until 6 months after I said that. I didn't even notice I had that in there, it's like a bonus track on an album.


You're a good damn genius!


Nodope basically walks around knicks realgm like Beast off the xmen. :lol:
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Post#38 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:35 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:What I also like is that there are no narcissists or flat-out morons aboard this ship. Look at the other rosters and you’ve got a Miles Bridges here, a LeBron there, Kevin Porter in LA, I couldn’t root for Zion or Embiid or Booker or Green or Brooks or Morant or Ball or … for different reasons…


This seems like a good place to riff on Mikal and to some degree the Mikal trade.

Mikal's shot may indeed be broken. I think PART of the problem is Mikal readjusting to having the ball in his hands less, which is affecting everything from shot rhythm to aggressiveness.

He's flipping between being the 4th and 3rd option every night and the 5th option isn't some limited dunking center. It's Hart, who has the ball in his hands a decent amount

Also, Mikal is decent off the ball but not exactly elite for that role. I felt this way in the Olympic qualifiers and still do. Still, his ability to be effective in the midrange is important and I think the 3 will come around

Mikal figuring out his role/his shot are the final unlock of the offense. Probably at midseason.

In the meantime, like Brunson, Hart and OG, he's willing to play any role and sacrifice scoring without complaints.

The Knicks laid out a number of assets for this version of the team but you see the attributes wanted in players targeted:

BBall IQ
Team oriented
Good at cutting and passing
Can shoot
All around ability
Low ego

In a vacuum, 5 picks for Mikal is a lot, but they traded no useful players for him, while the other half of the wing tandem was traded for two useful players and no first round picks.

People wouldn't mind RJ and two picks for OG and Precious and IQ and three picks for Mikal, would they?

And that still left Randle and, unfortunately Divo, available for KAT, a somewhat better player than Randle but a MUCH better fit to space the offense and play 5 out.

Mikal should come around. The fretting over the picks a little silly in the larger asset management scheme

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Post#39 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:40 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
:o
Sorry im sure you were tryign to make a succinct point but all i saw was you hating on the man who dropped 41 against the Celtics!





F0urnier was a basketball terrorist, the world is a better place without him on the Knicks.


Sidenote, OG wasn't traded until 6 months after I said that. I didn't even notice I had that in there, it's like a bonus track on an album.


You're a god damn genius!

Not bad!

The logjam and cap situations were real, but in hindsight Towns was always their second best player and they should have traded Rudy, McDaniels, Naz and NAW before him in order to retool around Towns and Edwards.
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Post#40 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:05 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Who are you and what have you done with buzz?!!? Hide yourself man! People are gonna think you're a fan!


:lol:
Every once in awhile buzz demands the ball to show us that he still has a bag.



Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot


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Couple of posts later I called sham having a meltdown over the potential trade in 2023, you're in there hating on the idea of KAT too, but I'll let you live. This is really just to dunk on sham's corpse.

I am negrodamus


As someone who has been aboard the KAT train for years now, my only issue with this glorious post is that it's, "beep beep".
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