Towns has tendinopathy in right knee

[MrDollarBills]

Injuries should be treated as players responsibility and they gotta be fined should they start piling them up.

You can give 5 Thibs' to prime LeBron, Giannis or Jokic - he will play them like horses - they ain't getting injured. This league is so damn soft, stop making excuses for these bums. I get the pace is significantly higher than the 90s but so is the modern medicine, rehabilitation etc.

People need to understand - basketball players are among the dumbest athletes. And the athletes are not generally intelligent to begin with. They DO NOT know how to condition themselves. Because you have to be smart for it - there is no universal recipe - Lebron might need something, Jokic another, Giannis - third. But they figure it out by themselves. The rest - fine their ass until they broke. Stupid ass soft bums.

This has nothing to do with KAT, but in general.

I will dare say that the Knicks starting 5 is the best conditioned unit in the sport based on the insane workload they've undergone so far this year.

That being said, these guys are human beings, not machines who can just go get their parts replaced when things get worn down.

KAT's knee, OG's elbow, Deuce's hamstring...this isn't a conditioning issue. KAT's knee is a clear sign of overuse and OG is right behind him.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Deuce has the same knee condition right? He missed a game or two earlier with knee soreness. And I know it's currently hamstring but things are all related too

Not sure. Injuries do happen but, Thibs accelerates the process. No other team runs rotations like this for 82 games. None. Damn sure not the ones we're competing with for a title.

Injuries will happen, especially minor ones

Proper management prevents them from piling up and killing a season in the end. Rushing guys back and "toughing it out" or whatever is just bad long term strategy.

Exactly. Like playing guys 42 minutes game one of a back to back. Then after him actually saying he was exhausted, you leave him in a blowout the following night. After playing 37 minutes that game guess what, he's injured with an overuse injury. This is just one of MANY glaring examples of Thibs being stupid. He doesn't take player health serious AT ALL.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Injuries should be treated as players responsibility and they gotta be fined should they start piling them up.

You can give 5 Thibs' to prime LeBron, Giannis or Jokic - he will play them like horses - they ain't getting injured. This league is so damn soft, stop making excuses for these bums. I get the pace is significantly higher than the 90s but so is the modern medicine, rehabilitation etc.

People need to understand - basketball players are among the dumbest athletes. And the athletes are not generally intelligent to begin with. They DO NOT know how to condition themselves. Because you have to be smart for it - there is no universal recipe - Lebron might need something, Jokic another, Giannis - third. But they figure it out by themselves. The rest - fine their ass until they broke. Stupid ass soft bums.

This has nothing to do with KAT, but in general.

I will dare say that the Knicks starting 5 is the best conditioned unit in the sport based on the insane workload they've undergone so far this year.

That being said, these guys are human beings, not machines who can just go get their parts replaced when things get worn down.

KAT's knee, OG's elbow, Deuce's hamstring...this isn't a conditioning issue. KAT's knee is a clear sign of overuse and OG is right behind him.

Jalen's calf strain is along for the ride too. It's not rocket science. There's ample evidence to support the claim. Thibs worries about getting T-Mac'd because it happened ONCE but, doesn't give a shyt about the constant player injuries he's been in charge of for his entire career. It's lunacy. If we go down again like last year he better be fired.

[MrDollarBills]

Anyway...folks clowned us for being concerned about the minutes and now Tom has screwed the pooch with arguably the 1B cornerstone of this franchise. Now this is a lingering issue that will need to be managed the rest of the season.

And it's only early January. This is gross mismanagement and coaching malpractice.

Can't say that I'm not disgusted with Tom right now. A blind man could have seen this coming.

[Chanel Bomber]

Yes if evil Thibs just reduces KAT's minutes to 29.9 he will never ever get injured again!

He tore his meniscus in March, he's playing the most minutes he's played since he was 22, tendinopathy is an overuse related injury. Some of you are honestly weird, willing to defend Tom to the point you're fine with jeopardizing the health of the team. KAT turns 30 this year, is coming off knee surgery in March, and you think now's the time to defend the coach who is playing him more than anyone has done in almost a decade.

Yeah it's really weird, it's almost as if it has to be all or nothing.

Thibs is a very good NBA coach who - for the most part - puts his team in a position to succeed basketball-wise. Of course I occasionally have some gripes with his decisions but he has elevated the franchise and given us multiple seasons of good basketball.

However, to argue that he hasn't compromised his players' health is a display of delusion or denial. While not all of our injuries in the last couple of years were his fault, he has been a hazard for his players and it might very well cost a real shot at contention somewhere down the line.

The clearest example is OG. His playing time is obvious malpractice.

So is Leon Rose failing to put guardrails around this issue.

[MrDollarBills]

Injuries should be treated as players responsibility and they gotta be fined should they start piling them up.

You can give 5 Thibs' to prime LeBron, Giannis or Jokic - he will play them like horses - they ain't getting injured. This league is so damn soft, stop making excuses for these bums. I get the pace is significantly higher than the 90s but so is the modern medicine, rehabilitation etc.

People need to understand - basketball players are among the dumbest athletes. And the athletes are not generally intelligent to begin with. They DO NOT know how to condition themselves. Because you have to be smart for it - there is no universal recipe - Lebron might need something, Jokic another, Giannis - third. But they figure it out by themselves. The rest - fine their ass until they broke. Stupid ass soft bums.

This has nothing to do with KAT, but in general.

I will dare say that the Knicks starting 5 is the best conditioned unit in the sport based on the insane workload they've undergone so far this year.

That being said, these guys are human beings, not machines who can just go get their parts replaced when things get worn down.

KAT's knee, OG's elbow, Deuce's hamstring...this isn't a conditioning issue. KAT's knee is a clear sign of overuse and OG is right behind him.

Jalen's calf strain is along for the ride too. It's not rocket science. There's ample evidence to support the claim. Thibs worries about getting T-Mac'd because it happened ONCE but, doesn't give a shyt about the constant player injuries he's been in charge of for his entire career. It's lunacy. If we go down again like last year he better be fired.

He needs to be held accountable and frankly he needs to start listening to his training staff because I doubt anyone with a background in sports medicine would say yeah let's play guys 80 minutes + in 48 hours.

It's asinine. You have 15 bodies. Use them.

Not one coach in the league has 10 guys who are starter level NBA players. Not one. You have to play your bench, play guys to their strengths and carve out roles.

[WaltFrazier]

Deuce has the same knee condition right? He missed a game or two earlier with knee soreness. And I know it's currently hamstring but things are all related too

Not sure. Injuries do happen but, Thibs accelerates the process. No other team runs rotations like this for 82 games. None. Damn sure not the ones we're competing with for a title.

Injuries will happen, especially minor ones

Proper management prevents them from piling up and killing a season in the end. Rushing guys back and "toughing it out" or whatever is just bad long term strategy.

The trouble with, say, resting Kat for a game is it would make Thibs shorten the rotation rather than use more guys. And JB would go into hero mode and get more worn down in Kat's absence .

[nykballa2k4]

Good. Hopefully we get to see 48 minutes of Sims and Suckporti for the next 40 games. Because they are excellent.

The reality is if KAT is out, our center rotation will be Precious/Shamet. Think I am being hyperbolic?

Precious(40)-OG(40)-Hart(40)-Bridges(40)-Brunson(40)
bench: Shamet(24), Payne(18).

[Jalen Bluntson]

Not sure. Injuries do happen but, Thibs accelerates the process. No other team runs rotations like this for 82 games. None. Damn sure not the ones we're competing with for a title.

Injuries will happen, especially minor ones

Proper management prevents them from piling up and killing a season in the end. Rushing guys back and "toughing it out" or whatever is just bad long term strategy.

The trouble with, say, resting Kat for a game is it would make Thibs shorten the rotation rather than use more guys. And JB would go into hero mode and get more worn down in Kat's absence .

KAT missed a game and he started Sims and played him a total of 6 minutes! Never to be seen again after that.

[ctorres]

KAT missed a game and he started Sims and played him a total of 6 minutes! Never to be seen again after that.

Sims was so god awful in those 6 minutes that Thibs decided to finally give up on him. Sims is no better of a player in his 4th season than he was in his 1st season.

I think Sims will get a two year deal in the offseason (non-guaranteed in the 2nd year) and then be out of the league.

[Jalen Bluntson]

KAT missed a game and he started Sims and played him a total of 6 minutes! Never to be seen again after that.

Sims was so god awful in those 6 minutes that Thibs decided to finally give up on him. Sims is no better of a player in his 4th season than he was in his 1st season.

I think Sims will get a two year deal in the offseason (non-guaranteed in the 2nd year) and then be out of the league.

Thibs was raving about him earlier this season and he played a lot before Precious came back(same game). Hasn't played since. If KAT sits we have Precious/Sims/Huk as the ONLY players left to man the 5. One would think keeping KAT off the injury list is a no brainer. Not the moron HC we have though. He's clueless.

[RHODEY]

Wonder how that happened? Hopefully the FO gets in Thibs ear. We can’t afford losing players to overuse.
We will be a mess (again) come end of year if this isn’t corrected.

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Towns has thibs-no-sympathy in right knee.

[Wildcat]

In Thibs defense, KAT has been putting up some phenomenal numbers recently, it's a catch-22. But I've been calling for more trust and development of the bench for weeks now, so it's moot.

[Jalen Bluntson]

In Thibs defense, KAT has been putting up some phenomenal numbers recently, it's a catch-22. But I've been calling for more trust and development of the bench for weeks now, so it's moot.

[nykballa2k4]

Injuries should be treated as players responsibility and they gotta be fined should they start piling them up.

You can give 5 Thibs' to prime LeBron, Giannis or Jokic - he will play them like horses - they ain't getting injured. This league is so damn soft, stop making excuses for these bums. I get the pace is significantly higher than the 90s but so is the modern medicine, rehabilitation etc.

People need to understand - basketball players are among the dumbest athletes. And the athletes are not generally intelligent to begin with. They DO NOT know how to condition themselves. Because you have to be smart for it - there is no universal recipe - Lebron might need something, Jokic another, Giannis - third. But they figure it out by themselves. The rest - fine their ass until they broke. Stupid ass soft bums.

This has nothing to do with KAT, but in general.

I will dare say that the Knicks starting 5 is the best conditioned unit in the sport based on the insane workload they've undergone so far this year.

That being said, these guys are human beings, not machines who can just go get their parts replaced when things get worn down.

KAT's knee, OG's elbow, Deuce's hamstring...this isn't a conditioning issue. KAT's knee is a clear sign of overuse and OG is right behind him.

Not to beat dead horses (I guess this is a pun), but Hart let slip last year that when they were playing extra minutes, they basically stopped practicing. I think that's a poor solution to the problem obviously and the results speak for themselves.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

In Thibs defense, KAT has been putting up some phenomenal numbers recently, it's a catch-22. But I've been calling for more trust and development of the bench for weeks now, so it's moot.

He got hurt while we were down 15 with a minute 36, he scored an and 1, made the freethrow and finally left the game while we're down 12. This was on Derrick Rose night, Rose tore his ACL down 12 with a minute and change to go because Tom thought they still had a chance. There is no defense for that.

[Wildcat]

In Thibs defense, KAT has been putting up some phenomenal numbers recently, it's a catch-22. But I've been calling for more trust and development of the bench for weeks now, so it's moot.

He got hurt while we were down 15 with a minute 36, he scored an and 1, made the freethrow and finally left the game while we're down 12. This was on Derrick Rose night, Rose tore his ACL down 12 with a minute and change to go because Tom thought they still had a chance. There is no defense for that.

Like I said, moot.

[ITGM]

I've had that as well. It's annoying and makes it painful to walk and run. You can still play basketball, but it really diminishes your ability to run and jump consistently and the more you pay the worse it gets.

It's does get better over time though once you're allowed to rest and once it goes away you're back to 100% so that's the good part. It's basically like having a really sore knee for a prolonged period of time.

Took me about a year to get over it 100%...

[KnicksGadfly]

All these Thibs defenders trying to justify his minutes, not realizing this is how Thibs gets himself fired in the end. If you like Thibs, you should be rooting for him to change. Otherwise, he's not going to be around for the championship chase.

He's going to lose the important games in the postseason if he doesn't have the full roster, and it's the postseason games that matter now.

[seren]

Maybe this is how Thibs creates an excuse for his playoff shortcomings. If the roster is not healthy and we inevitably lose, he will just say we will be healthy next season. Maybe this is how the FO also excuses the shortcomings against Dolan and keeps their jobs. We all assume these guys just want to win but maybe not