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captain subtext wrote:At the end of the day even coming away with three cheap rotation players in Randolph, Walker and Douglas would be better then getting nothing.
That obviously would be an insult of an offer - yet it's still better than nothing.
Jordan45822 wrote:
Its obvious Mr. Kroenke is still pist off at the Chris Paul thing at the wedding and hasn't let go. If that didn't happen he would be probably be more open to trading with your guys' team.
Jordan45822 wrote:Also Melo screwing up his dealings with the Nets might have angered him even more.
god shammgod wrote:Jordan45822 wrote:
Its obvious Mr. Kroenke is still pist off at the Chris Paul thing at the wedding and hasn't let go. If that didn't happen he would be probably be more open to trading with your guys' team.
melo didn't say anything, chris paul did. if he's mad at us, why is he going to let us get him without them receiving anything in return ? that doesn't make sense.
seren wrote:Denver may hold onto Melo. But spite won't be the reason. Melo = Playoffs. Playoffs = more games at home. More games at home = more money for the home team.
god shammgod wrote:seren wrote:Denver may hold onto Melo. But spite won't be the reason. Melo = Playoffs. Playoffs = more games at home. More games at home = more money for the home team.
they're not getting out of the first round. a few playoff games won't generate much. the nuggets attendance is down this year. that's not a reason to hold onto him.
vallen wrote:Doesnt matter if Kroenke wants to deal with us or not.
He has a responsibility to his Team and the Fans to exhaust every possible opportunity that may be available, or may become available, up until the deadline. he knows we'll still be here.
I know its so hard for some people to understand, but what if Amare wanted to play for TOR and he was expiring. and TOR knew this. so they offer derozan, bayless and second round pick. and we have 3 months before the deadline.
do you think
A. we should just take it up the bung hole and make the trade.
or
B. wait 3 months and see if anything better develops or changes in the next 3 months.
Kroenke is just doing what hes supposed to be doing. Plan "B". playing the game. if our GM did Plan "A" to us he'd be carried out of the city in a body bag.
eventually all possibilitys will be explored, and he will be forced to make a deal one way or the other. But I cant blame him for not rolling over and dieing, regardless whether he hates us or not, hes going to make the right choice for his team in the end. hes not doing it for spite. hes doing it cuz its the right thing do.
god shammgod wrote:vallen wrote:Doesnt matter if Kroenke wants to deal with us or not.
He has a responsibility to his Team and the Fans to exhaust every possible opportunity that may be available, or may become available, up until the deadline. he knows we'll still be here.
I know its so hard for some people to understand, but what if Amare wanted to play for TOR and he was expiring. and TOR knew this. so they offer derozan, bayless and second round pick. and we have 3 months before the deadline.
do you think
A. we should just take it up the bung hole and make the trade.
or
B. wait 3 months and see if anything better develops or changes in the next 3 months.
Kroenke is just doing what hes supposed to be doing. Plan "B". playing the game. if our GM did Plan "A" to us he'd be carried out of the city in a body bag.
eventually all possibilitys will be explored, and he will be forced to make a deal one way or the other. But I cant blame him for not rolling over and dieing, regardless whether he hates us or not, hes going to make the right choice for his team in the end. hes not doing it for spite. hes doing it cuz its the right thing do.
you left out a big risk of plan B - in 3 months melo walks and they get nothing. how's the fan base feel then ?
cgmw wrote:god shammgod wrote:seren wrote:Denver may hold onto Melo. But spite won't be the reason. Melo = Playoffs. Playoffs = more games at home. More games at home = more money for the home team.
they're not getting out of the first round. a few playoff games won't generate much. the nuggets attendance is down this year. that's not a reason to hold onto him.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. After the deadline, all this Melodrama will fade away and their team can actually just play. That's a very talented core of Melo, Chauncey and Nene. If Kenyon Martin, Birdman, Al Harrington, Lawson, Afflalo and JR Smith can produce, then I see no reason the Nuggets couldn't play their way up to a 4 seed and beat OKC, New Orleans, or Utah in the first round.
Honestly, I'd probably take a healthy Nuggets squad over the Mavs in a 7 game series.
Gregory151 wrote:jean (bklyn)
Have ur Melo odds changed. Most people are sayin he is just gonna play out year and Denver then sign with Knicks.
Chris Sheridan (5:05 PM)
My odds haven't changed. I still see the Knicks having the best chance of getting him. When I saw Melo at the Rock in Newark the other night, the one thing he was rock solid on is that he WILL opt out and become a free agent this summer. He said if that's what it takes to fulfill what he wants to do, then that's what he'll do. But he knows it's going to cost him $20M to go down that road, and he isn't happy about that part of it.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/newyork/chat/_/id/36860
delvec19 wrote:Gregory151 wrote:jean (bklyn)
Have ur Melo odds changed. Most people are sayin he is just gonna play out year and Denver then sign with Knicks.
Chris Sheridan (5:05 PM)
My odds haven't changed. I still see the Knicks having the best chance of getting him. When I saw Melo at the Rock in Newark the other night, the one thing he was rock solid on is that he WILL opt out and become a free agent this summer. He said if that's what it takes to fulfill what he wants to do, then that's what he'll do. But he knows it's going to cost him $20M to go down that road, and he isn't happy about that part of it.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/newyork/chat/_/id/36860
Duh. I think it's pretty clear he's not going to be a Nugget come 2011-2012 season.
god shammgod wrote:vallen wrote:Doesnt matter if Kroenke wants to deal with us or not.
He has a responsibility to his Team and the Fans to exhaust every possible opportunity that may be available, or may become available, up until the deadline. he knows we'll still be here.
I know its so hard for some people to understand, but what if Amare wanted to play for TOR and he was expiring. and TOR knew this. so they offer derozan, bayless and second round pick. and we have 3 months before the deadline.
do you think
A. we should just take it up the bung hole and make the trade.
or
B. wait 3 months and see if anything better develops or changes in the next 3 months.
Kroenke is just doing what hes supposed to be doing. Plan "B". playing the game. if our GM did Plan "A" to us he'd be carried out of the city in a body bag.
eventually all possibilitys will be explored, and he will be forced to make a deal one way or the other. But I cant blame him for not rolling over and dieing, regardless whether he hates us or not, hes going to make the right choice for his team in the end. hes not doing it for spite. hes doing it cuz its the right thing do.
you left out a big risk of plan B - in 3 months melo walks and they get nothing. how's the fan base feel then ?
vallen wrote:god shammgod wrote:vallen wrote:Doesnt matter if Kroenke wants to deal with us or not.
He has a responsibility to his Team and the Fans to exhaust every possible opportunity that may be available, or may become available, up until the deadline. he knows we'll still be here.
I know its so hard for some people to understand, but what if Amare wanted to play for TOR and he was expiring. and TOR knew this. so they offer derozan, bayless and second round pick. and we have 3 months before the deadline.
do you think
A. we should just take it up the bung hole and make the trade.
or
B. wait 3 months and see if anything better develops or changes in the next 3 months.
Kroenke is just doing what hes supposed to be doing. Plan "B". playing the game. if our GM did Plan "A" to us he'd be carried out of the city in a body bag.
eventually all possibilitys will be explored, and he will be forced to make a deal one way or the other. But I cant blame him for not rolling over and dieing, regardless whether he hates us or not, hes going to make the right choice for his team in the end. hes not doing it for spite. hes doing it cuz its the right thing do.
you left out a big risk of plan B - in 3 months melo walks and they get nothing. how's the fan base feel then ?
I think you misunderstood my post. My Fault, cuz I was using 3 months as a random example. Actcually its probly been at least 6 months but w/e. Plan "B" is waiting till the deadline.
What you describe is Plan "C". and the point I was trying to make is that isnt happenng. despite all the conspiracy theory's he wont deal with us. He will however deal, when hes certian he has the best available deal. with us or with whomever, bye or before the deadline.
What he isnt going to do is hand him over without trying.
vallen wrote:Cool thats all im saying. any GM has to do his due diligence. and I think thats all hes doing.
Cuz if Plan "C" happens, ill be scratchin my head for months.
KnicksGod wrote:vallen wrote:Cool thats all im saying. any GM has to do his due diligence. and I think thats all hes doing.
Cuz if Plan "C" happens, ill be scratchin my head for months.
Hey what do you know, I agree with this fully.
While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York.
mmgwmu wrote:While the Nuggets realize they will have to seriously engage the Knicks in trade talks for Anthony before the Feb. 24 deadline, a third team already has stepped into the on-deck circle as a potential facilitator if talks between Denver and New York ever gain traction. That team, sources say, is the Timberwolves, who are willing to absorb Eddy Curry's $11.3 million expiring contract in a three-team scenario that would send Anthony Randolph to Minnesota and Anthony to New York.
Has this been discussed yet????
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14646697/only-time-will-tell-if-mavs-have-what-it-takes-to-win-out-west