2011 NBA Draft Thread II (New Poll & Mock Draft Results)

[Kn1cks]

I don't care who we draft as long as ...

a) he can play D.
b) he's ready to contribute right away.
c) he has a high motor.
d) he has no character issues.

And if we draft a ...

PG - He must be a true PG. No combo guards. No exceptions!!

SG - Must be able to shoot the ball and defend.

Big man - Must play like a true big man. That means play inside. No standing 25 feet from the hoop shooting 3's and averaging 4 rpg. We need a Noah/Perkins/Chandler type. Not a Bargnani/Lee/Okur type.

Who did you vote for?

Klay but my top choice is Singleton. I also like Faried.

[ManiaX]

I don't care who we draft as long as ...

a) he can play D.
b) he's ready to contribute right away.
c) he has a high motor.
d) he has no character issues.

And if we draft a ...

PG - He must be a true PG. No combo guards. No exceptions!!

SG - Must be able to shoot the ball and defend.

Big man - Must play like a true big man. That means play inside. No standing 25 feet from the hoop shooting 3's and averaging 4 rpg. We need a Noah/Perkins/Chandler type. Not a Bargnani/Lee/Okur type.

Who did you vote for?

Klay but my top choice is Singleton. I also like Faried.

Well Klay can't play defense. Wasn't even a good defender at the college level.

Singleton can defend but would be used a stretch 4 similar to Shawne Williams.

Faried is a true big man, but he is closer to a Reggie Evans than he is to a Noah, Perkins, or Chandler.

Also there is no "true" PG in this draft after Irving. The closest is Darius Morris but that's cause he will most likely struggle to score in the NBA and is a poor outside shooter.

[Kn1cks]

Well Klay can't play defense. Wasn't even a good defender at the college level.

Singleton can defend but would be used a stretch 4 similar to Shawne Williams.

Faried is a true big man, but he is closer to a Reggie Evans than he is to a Noah, Perkins, or Chandler.

Also there is no "true" PG in this draft after Irving. The closest is Darius Morris but that's cause he will most likely struggle to score in the NBA and is a poor outside shooter.

Disagree on Klay. He's an underrated defender and overall player. He's not just a shooter. And Singleton is way better than Shawne. Singleton will be the type who can make All-Defensive teams. And I'd be OK getting Reggie Evans with the 17th pick in a weak draft.

Agree on the PGs. I'm not a big fan of any of them.

[ManiaX]

Well Klay can't play defense. Wasn't even a good defender at the college level.

Singleton can defend but would be used a stretch 4 similar to Shawne Williams.

Faried is a true big man, but he is closer to a Reggie Evans than he is to a Noah, Perkins, or Chandler.

Also there is no "true" PG in this draft after Irving. The closest is Darius Morris but that's cause he will most likely struggle to score in the NBA and is a poor outside shooter.

Disagree on Klay. He's an underrated defender and overall player. He's not just a shooter. And Singleton is way better than Shawne. Singleton will be the type who can make All-Defensive teams. And I'd be OK getting Reggie Evans with the 17th pick in a weak draft.

Agree on the PGs. I'm not a big fan of any of them.

I agree. I never said Klay was just a shooter. I was a fan of his before he even entered the draft and I brought him up during the Pac-10 tournament. In terms of his defense, he is still not a good defender. Defensively he will most likely be a notch below Fields.

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[StumptheSlob]

Depending on who we draft at #17, we should buy a late 1st/early 2nd for Malcolm Lee. I think he can be our OJ Mayo off the bench (not as good of a scorer, but great defender and can handle the ball). He's got nice size for a combo guard (6'5.5" and 198lbs) with great length (6'10" wingspan) and is coming out of a system where guards struggle, but turn out to be better than expected (Westbrook, Holiday). He's not a great shooter, but it's been improving. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

[moocow007]

Depending on who we draft at #17, we should buy a late 1st/early 2nd for Malcolm Lee. I think he can be our OJ Mayo off the bench (not as good of a scorer, but great defender and can handle the ball). He's got nice size for a combo guard (6'5.5" and 198lbs) with great length (6'10" wingspan) and is coming out of a system where guards struggle, but turn out to be better than expected (Westbrook, Holiday). He's not a great shooter, but it's been improving. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

Mayo is a good passer, he's not good at being able to control the dribble...so by handling I'm hoping you mean passing. In fact, one of the biggest reasons he's not been able to live up to the hype of being the next Kobe is because he has problems creating shots for himself off the dribble. It wasn't unusual to see him regularly pull up his dribble when his defender came at him instead of trying to dribble around him even back when he was at USC.

[Bklyn&company]

Depending on who we draft at #17, we should buy a late 1st/early 2nd for Malcolm Lee. I think he can be our OJ Mayo off the bench (not as good of a scorer, but great defender and can handle the ball). He's got nice size for a combo guard (6'5.5" and 198lbs) with great length (6'10" wingspan) and is coming out of a system where guards struggle, but turn out to be better than expected (Westbrook, Holiday). He's not a great shooter, but it's been improving. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

I rather have Iman Shumpert, he is better overall, dude is huge, stronger, quicker, faster, a better defender, younger and can guard PG/SG with no problem, a poor mans Tyeke Evans is better than a poor mans OJ Mayo.

[moocow007]

Darius Morris just strikes me as a guy that really doesn't have the mental makeup to be able to do well in the NBA. Yes, he's got great size and athleticism. Yes, he can make some really nice passes. But beyond the lack of offense he just doesn't come off as an alpha personality which, imho, is what the best point guards have.

[Bklyn&company]

Depending on who we draft at #17, we should buy a late 1st/early 2nd for Malcolm Lee. I think he can be our OJ Mayo off the bench (not as good of a scorer, but great defender and can handle the ball). He's got nice size for a combo guard (6'5.5" and 198lbs) with great length (6'10" wingspan) and is coming out of a system where guards struggle, but turn out to be better than expected (Westbrook, Holiday). He's not a great shooter, but it's been improving. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

I rather have Iman Shumpert, he is better overall, dude is huge, stronger, quicker, faster, a better defender, younger and can guard PG/SG with no problem, a poor mans Tyeke Evans is better than a poor mans OJ Mayo.

But I see where you are going with this. A big point is something I think we need, especially when TD is in the game.

[Pharmcat]

ny needs to get the player with the most potential to be dynamic in this league


i think thats selby, but frankly, i think hes going to be moving up

[StumptheSlob]

Depending on who we draft at #17, we should buy a late 1st/early 2nd for Malcolm Lee. I think he can be our OJ Mayo off the bench (not as good of a scorer, but great defender and can handle the ball). He's got nice size for a combo guard (6'5.5" and 198lbs) with great length (6'10" wingspan) and is coming out of a system where guards struggle, but turn out to be better than expected (Westbrook, Holiday). He's not a great shooter, but it's been improving. I think this kid is gonna be a steal.

I rather have Iman Shumpert, he is better overall, dude is huge, stronger, quicker, faster, a better defender, younger and can guard PG/SG with no problem, a poor mans Tyeke Evans is better than a poor mans OJ Mayo.

I wouldn't hate Shumpert, but I think I'd rather have Lee. He seems like a better play-maker, better shooter (right now), and is still an above-average defender. However, I'll take whichever has a better work-ethic and desire to get better because I think they're close enough that it probably comes down to that.

[moocow007]

Walsh is got a tough job ahead. He needs a homerun here. Needs someone that both can contribute right away and who will turn into an impact player down the road. A future role playing journeyman is not enough. A flash in the pain one year wonder isn't enough. Will be interesting if nothing else.

[Marty McFly]

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i think its interesting that he said he chose to go to BYU because of the uptempo system.

[Fat Kat]

Voted for Jimmer. Smart kid with unlimited range. With Chauncey tutoring him, he can be really good.

[Fury]

I think people undersell Fredette when they say he's a great shooter. The dude is a great SCORER. He Isos on like every play and no one can defend him one on one.

[Jheri Curl]

I rather have Reggie Jackson than Jimmer honestly

[GONYK]

I think people undersell Fredette when they say he's a great shooter. The dude is a great SCORER. He Isos on like every play and no one can defend him one on one.

No one at the college level you mean.

People will have a much easier time in the pros

[Manhattan Project]

I think people undersell Fredette when they say he's a great shooter. The dude is a great SCORER. He Isos on like every play and no one can defend him one on one.

No one at the college level you mean.

People will have a much easier time in the pros

This goes both ways though IMO. He will actually have 3-4 other capable scorers on the floor with him as well and possibly become the passer that people don't think he is. He could be a terror since he can score in any way possible known to man. I mean with screens, can he be even better? With capable teammates can he be just as efficient? When you can't double/triple team him can he become a better playmaker? These are also the questions that I think you have to look at with Jimmer.

[ITGM]

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