OT: Morey doin work

[Fury]

You know in NBA 2K12 when you try to rebuild a team, and the game ends up getting boring cause you keep trading for picks and picks, building with an unlimited supply of top 10 picks and you still can't get out of the first round cause everyone is still developing, then they're at 82 and want a max contract and you're like **** outta here so you quit and start over? That's Morey.

[Greenie]

You know in NBA 2K12 when you try to rebuild a team, and the game ends up getting boring cause you keep trading for picks and picks, building with an unlimited supply of top 10 picks and you still can't get out of the first round cause everyone is still developing, then they're at 82 and want a max contract and you're like **** outta here so you quit and start over? That's Morey.

LOL, don't you play the games?

[GONYK]

You know in NBA 2K12 when you try to rebuild a team, and the game ends up getting boring cause you keep trading for picks and picks, building with an unlimited supply of top 10 picks and you still can't get out of the first round cause everyone is still developing, then they're at 82 and want a max contract and you're like **** outta here so you quit and start over? That's Morey.

At least in 2k, unlike real life, there are never any busts in the top 5.

[Fury]

You know in NBA 2K12 when you try to rebuild a team, and the game ends up getting boring cause you keep trading for picks and picks, building with an unlimited supply of top 10 picks and you still can't get out of the first round cause everyone is still developing, then they're at 82 and want a max contract and you're like **** outta here so you quit and start over? That's Morey.

LOL, don't you play the games?

Depends if I think we have a chance. Right now I'm having a p good time playing in the playoffs with Denver lol. I liked the Melo trade but this team is almost done. Drafted Thomas Robinson and Terrence Ross and we're in the 2nd round.

[Greenie]

You know in NBA 2K12 when you try to rebuild a team, and the game ends up getting boring cause you keep trading for picks and picks, building with an unlimited supply of top 10 picks and you still can't get out of the first round cause everyone is still developing, then they're at 82 and want a max contract and you're like **** outta here so you quit and start over? That's Morey.

LOL, don't you play the games?

Depends if I think we have a chance. Right now I'm having a p good time playing in the playoffs with Denver lol. I liked the Melo trade but this team is almost done. Drafted Thomas Robinson and Terrence Ross and we're in the 2nd round.

I always get Marshall.

[TKF]

I think for me personally it's not who the Knicks acquire or sign (other than STAT) but more so in what leads up to us doing so.

We can take this all the way back to the start of the LeBron chasing:

• We gave up Jamal Crawford and Zach Randolph for what? Cap space? OK. Why could we not throw in Jeffries with one of those guys? Moving on.

• The following year we trade this year’s first round pick along with the option to have swapped last year’s pick and our lotto pick that year in Jordan Hill in order to get rid of Jarred Jeffries' soon to be expiring contract. This was all to go after James because we needed the cap space for a second max right? OK. Moving on.

• The summer of 2010 we strike out LeBron so we hand Amare an uninsured $100 million dollar contract along with some other moves (Felton, Mozgov). We trade David Lee(and I can't stand Lee) to the Warriors for Anthony Randolph, an injured Kellena Azibuke and an injury prone Ronny Turiaf.

• Now we have our sights set on Melo. Cool, I like Melo. We go through an entire year of the “Melo” drama only to trade half our team and a bunch of future picks to Denver and Minnesota to get Melo, Billups, Brewer, Carter, Balkman and whoever else. OK, at least this is done with and we can all move on.

• We then turn around and release Brewer for nothing.

• We make the playoffs only to get swept in the first round. Injuries? Ok, I'll give you that. Moving on.

• We draft Shumpert with our first round pick. A defensive minded wing player. Sounds like Brewer to me. Moving on.

• We pick up Billups option going into the lockout. Why? Only to turn around and use the amnesty clause on him so we can trade for Tyson Chandler (who's my favorite Knick) and pay him $14 million dollars a year? While also trading a second round pick, cash, Ronny Turiaf and Andy Rautins to make it happen. But we still had Amare on the books with that uninsured contract, who was also was coming off of an injury riddled latter half of the season. This move also leaves us without a PG going into the season. Moving on.

• Tony Douglas stinks up the place this season. This leads to moves for a PG(Jeremy Lin) off waivers. Solid move. So why do we turn around and pick up Tony’s contract? Now we don’t truly have our full MLE because we must pay Lin (in his small sample size, and is coming off of an injury) and Novak (who’s a shooter…nothing more or less).

But we have holes and so many questions to answer on if we have the pieces to surround Melo (who we cashed in our assets for) with to compete for a championship. We have the “star”, now what? That’s my problem with the team. It’s not always what we do, but how we do it. We never seem to plan ahead and we continuously trip on our way to things we may actually need, thus wasting more time, assets, and money along the way while never becoming true contenders.

A lot of people/posters also seem to forget a lot of us were just too young to remember the glory days of Ewing. Our most prominent memories started in the Layden era.

very good breakdown... the bold part is what bothers me.. it is just like we have no plan whatsoever and when we do seem to have a sense of direction, we will derail it at any time to make a buck or two....

[TKF]

and I am SURE Knicks god would agree with me here.....

I'm okay asking him.

I haven't posted for months.

Yet this "debate" rages on.

Reasonable conclusion is those continually involved in the same argument perpetually use baiting tactics to get into the same cycle again and again.

You're bringing most everything and anything that happens in the NBA back to what the Knicks gave up for Melo (identified by more than one poster here, and I'm sure all the time) could arguably be labeled as such.

I'm more than open to hearing a second opinion on that matter.

you having not posted in here proves what?

and really I was content with talking about morey... not sure why you are talking about this going back to carmelo.. I was content not even talking about him at all now, if at all possible, ever....

[ibraheim718]

and I am SURE Knicks god would agree with me here.....

I'm okay asking him.

I haven't posted for months.

Yet this "debate" rages on.

Reasonable conclusion is those continually involved in the same argument perpetually use baiting tactics to get into the same cycle again and again.

You're bringing most everything and anything that happens in the NBA back to what the Knicks gave up for Melo (identified by more than one poster here, and I'm sure all the time) could arguably be labeled as such.

I'm more than open to hearing a second opinion on that matter.

you having not posted in here proves what?

and really I was content with talking about morey... not sure why you are talking about this going back to carmelo.. I was content not even talking about him at all now, if at all possible, ever....

[suicidedeuce]

you having not posted in here proves what?

Since you asked I assume I'm welcome to answer.

That you continually find yourself in a debate about the same issue over and over and over again, without any hep from me.

I'm not the only person who identifies the fact you find ways to bring the discussion back to the trade.

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

You don't think reasonable, smart people notice the allusions? You don't think that's a form of baiting?

Yeah, that you continually find yourself back to that topic in threads having nothing to do with it, to the point its apparently become a joke within the community, has NOTHING to do with you. You're an innocent bystander.

Let's go with that.

[K_ick_God]

you having not posted in here proves what?

Since you asked I assume I'm welcome to answer.

That you continually find yourself in a debate about the same issue over and over and over again, without any hep from me.

I'm not the only person who identifies the fact you find ways to bring the discussion back to the trade.

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

You don't think reasonable, smart people notice the allusions? You don't think that's a form of baiting?

Yeah, that you continually find yourself back to that topic in threads having nothing to do with it, to the point its apparently become a joke within the community, has NOTHING to do with you. You're an innocent bystander.

Let's go with that.

You know what? This dude is *smart*. He applies logic sharply and gathers his arguments in a really convincing way.

I won't use the word "baiting" since I think it's loaded. But I do find it hard to believe that TKF is not looking to re-litigate the past (continuously), a past that I believe he's been proven solidly wrong about on a few different occasions (primarily Mike D, Gallo, and Melo).

For a specific example, the thread about "This is why depth is so important" was, to be fair, really "This is why I wasn't wrong about the Melo trade" as the Knicks finally showed a sustained winning streak under Woodson.

But oh well. Who really cares anymore? I just think that suicidedeuce is really persuasive in a very well-structured way. I have to give him his props, not so much about knocking TKF anymore ... the whole subject is SO damn old. I just like seeing intelligent posts and this^ is one.

I still think suicidedeuce is wrong about Wojnarowski though. That guy definitely hates the Knicks. But again, neither here nor there

[RutgersBJJ]

Looks like you can't get much with 3 borderline starting quality players (12, 16, 18), unless you're the Knicks. Then you get a superstar for 3 borderline starting quality players (Chandler, Felton, Gallo).

[K_ick_God]

Looks like you can't get much with 3 borderline starting quality players (12, 16, 18), unless you're the Knicks. Then you get a superstar for 3 borderline starting quality players (Chandler, Felton, Gallo).

[TKF]

you having not posted in here proves what?

Since you asked I assume I'm welcome to answer.

That you continually find yourself in a debate about the same issue over and over and over again, without any hep from me.

I'm not the only person who identifies the fact you find ways to bring the discussion back to the trade.

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

You don't think reasonable, smart people notice the allusions? You don't think that's a form of baiting?

Yeah, that you continually find yourself back to that topic in threads having nothing to do with it, to the point its apparently become a joke within the community, has NOTHING to do with you. You're an innocent bystander.

Let's go with that.

NO, you are just like everyone else, blood in the water and you come around sniffing, you do it all the time, but I am going to waste my time, yet again to help you out here..

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

lets take a look at how this got back around to the trade..

here is my first post in the thread...

I find the morey criticism funny. He is making moves to stay competitive while collecting assets for future moves... there is nothing wrong with that, it is actually a smart way to do business. How is he hurting his team at all?

no mention of the knicks here..

now after a couple of pages, here comes the comments, the same guys you have aligned yourself with are the one's who shifted the topic..

this thread is comedy. jealous of houston ? houston is jealous of the player you have. houston would give you a **** load of those assets if you sent them melo. their back up plan to dwight, who aint gonna resign there, is josh smith for crying out loud. and they probably won't even get him.

Everyone here is ignoring that Morey pulled his cheeks apart and begged Denver to screw them in a trade for Melo. Good thing Denver wasn't allowed to take the call.

now here is the reply by another poster in response to the first quote pretty much establishing who brought up melo and the knicks.... he clearly addresses the poster about shifting the convo to carmelo.. here you go:

Come on, now. I didn't say a damn word about Carmelo. The point is we've never had this kind of flexibility. What would happen if you put a roster in MSG with a clear deck and nothing but rookie contracts and first round picks?

I can go on and one, as you see this thread was derailed by others.. but I know you were too lazy to do the work and see for yourself.. as you said, you like to stay away or you were away for a while, but I see you.. stick your nose in, throw a few jabs, throw a few big words around, and pat yourself on the back.. I didn't want to respond because that act is old....


so as far as I am concerned, we can start and end here as I will not be responding to your post... why not try staying away a few more months....

[Thugger HBC]

That's embarrassing.

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[ibraheim718]

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[taj2133]

jeremy lamb first rocket pick

[Thugger HBC]

No way Kmart and Lamb are on the roster together.

Rockets gathering trade pieces.

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[Futureisnow]

umm...no more avatars?

[Thugger HBC]

umm...no more avatars?

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[god shammgod]

you having not posted in here proves what?

Since you asked I assume I'm welcome to answer.

That you continually find yourself in a debate about the same issue over and over and over again, without any hep from me.

I'm not the only person who identifies the fact you find ways to bring the discussion back to the trade.

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

You don't think reasonable, smart people notice the allusions? You don't think that's a form of baiting?

Yeah, that you continually find yourself back to that topic in threads having nothing to do with it, to the point its apparently become a joke within the community, has NOTHING to do with you. You're an innocent bystander.

Let's go with that.

NO, you are just like everyone else, blood in the water and you come around sniffing, you do it all the time, but I am going to waste my time, yet again to help you out here..

The point being, how do you think you find yourself involved in the same discussion (while constantly claiming lack of interest), and give so many individuals the impression its intentional when you claim otherwise?

lets take a look at how this got back around to the trade..

here is my first post in the thread...

I find the morey criticism funny. He is making moves to stay competitive while collecting assets for future moves... there is nothing wrong with that, it is actually a smart way to do business. How is he hurting his team at all?

no mention of the knicks here..

now after a couple of pages, here comes the comments, the same guys you have aligned yourself with are the one's who shifted the topic..

this thread is comedy. jealous of houston ? houston is jealous of the player you have. houston would give you a **** load of those assets if you sent them melo. their back up plan to dwight, who aint gonna resign there, is josh smith for crying out loud. and they probably won't even get him.

Everyone here is ignoring that Morey pulled his cheeks apart and begged Denver to screw them in a trade for Melo. Good thing Denver wasn't allowed to take the call.

now here is the reply by another poster in response to the first quote pretty much establishing who brought up melo and the knicks.... he clearly addresses the poster about shifting the convo to carmelo.. here you go:

Come on, now. I didn't say a damn word about Carmelo. The point is we've never had this kind of flexibility. What would happen if you put a roster in MSG with a clear deck and nothing but rookie contracts and first round picks?

I can go on and one, as you see this thread was derailed by others.. but I know you were too lazy to do the work and see for yourself.. as you said, you like to stay away or you were away for a while, but I see you.. stick your nose in, throw a few jabs, throw a few big words around, and pat yourself on the back.. I didn't want to respond because that act is old....


so as far as I am concerned, we can start and end here as I will not be responding to your post... why not try staying away a few more months....

your deflecting skills need work. nobody is falling for this.